Humphrey Fludd
Topic: Humphrey Fludd
1. Verified Sourced Facts
- Correction,
2026-04-28: the direct Fludd/Southampton witness should not be identified asletter_097in the local Neville Letters Corpus. A re-check shows that the tokenizedletter_097is a different letter: a Henry Neville recommendation of Mr. Thorpe to Robert Cecil, dated from Paris6 May 1600.
- The Fludd/Southampton text appears in the enriched XML only as misattached
original=text on the first tokens ofletter_097. That enrichment should be treated as a corpus-enrichment error, not as evidence that the Fludd/Southampton letter is a Neville-to-Cecil letter.
- Source-trail clarification,
2026-04-28: the local evidence currently has two distinct Fludd-related letter lanes: - the National Archives Drury-to-Neville manuscript letter, London
6 May 1600, which mentions Humphrey/Flood/Fludd and Southampton's letter; - the Winwood-to-Neville printed Memorials letters, especially Paris
13 Jan. 1600O.S. and the later letter opening "my last by Mr. Fludd," which identifyMr. Fludde/Mr. Fluddas a courier carrying correspondence to Neville.
- The local blog image named
PRO_30_50_2_098is the reverse/address-panel side of the same Drury/Neville manuscript item, addressed to Henry Neville as ambassador in France. It should not be counted as a second Fludd letter.
- The direct Fludd/Southampton witness is instead the National Archives item identified in the local blog note as
PRO 30/50/2/97, datedLondon, 6 May 1600, addressed to Henry Neville while he was ambassador to France. The local blog note records Dr. Andrew Zurcher's identification of the author as Robert Drury.
- The local blog note preserves this transcription/summary:
“Sr. I did not a whyt mistake what I writt vnto you conserninge ye letters, for proofe wherof Vnphry(Humphrey?) Flood, who hath bine here wth ye Cõmandeur of Diepe, assureth me yt he sawe my lord of Southamptons letter to me, vppon a table in your howse, layd downe amongst many other letters.”
- The same preserved text continues:
“And for Mr. Secretarys letter, he told me him selfe, at my coming over hether yt he had sent it”
- The preserved text closes from London on
6 May 1600, with the sender styling himself Neville's loving friend. The local blog note attributes that sender to Robert Drury; the manuscript image should be checked before this is treated as fully verified at manuscript level.
- This witness supports a narrower but important fact: a letter to Neville in May
1600reports Humphrey/Flood/Fludd seeing Southampton's letter to Neville among correspondence in Neville's house. It does not by itself prove the later Fludd-Bellot-Mountjoy-Shakespeare identification; that remains a separate network claim needing its own direct legal/genealogical witnesses.
- Winwood's Memorials of Affairs of State, vol. 1, contains direct courier-context references to a
Mr. Fludde/Mr. Fluddin Winwood letters to Sir Henry Neville: - In a letter from Winwood to Neville dated
13 Jan. 1600O.S. from Paris, printed on p.289, Winwood says he has askedMr. Fludde, who was preparing to return home, to deliver letters to Neville. - In a later Winwood letter to Neville, printed on p.
295, he opens by saying he has not written since his last byMr. Fludd.
- These Winwood references strengthen the courier-service lane, but they should be cited cautiously: the printed text gives
Mr. Fludde/Mr. Fludd, while the PRO 30/50 item is locally transcribed asVnphry(Humphrey?) Flood. A full identification requires reconciling the spellings and witnesses rather than assuming every printedFluddreference is automatically the same man.
2. Ken Feinstein Twitter and Blog Information
- A Ken Feinstein blog post dated
16 Aug. 2019identifies a National Archives letter as:
“PRO 30/50/2/97”
- The same post dates the letter:
“London, May 6, 1600”
- The same post describes it as addressed to Henry Neville while he was ambassador to France and preserves a modern-spelling summary/transcription stating:
“Humphrey Fludd, who had been in Dieppe with the Commander, confirmed seeing the Earl of Southampton's letter on a table in Neville's house among other correspondence.”
- The same preserved transcription adds:
“Fludd also reported that Mr. Secretary's (Robert Cecil's) letter had been sent via post in Neville's packet.”
- The same blog post identifies Humphrey Fludd as:
“a professional courier”
- The same post further states:
“between 1608 and 1618 he was paid numerous times for carrying official letters to and from France”
- The preserved local blog note also includes a later identification update:
“Dr. Andrew Zurcher identified the letter's author as Robert Drury”
- Correction: the
Robert Drury/PRO 30/50/2/97trail is the proper trail for the Fludd/Southampton letter. The localletter_097/SP 78/43trail is a different Henry Neville-to-Cecil letter and should not be cited for the Fludd/Southampton claim.
- Feinstein, Ken. Tweet,
16 Aug. 2019:
“Written to Henry Neville while he was ambassador to France, it references both the Earl of Southampton and Humphrey Fludd.”
- In the same
16 Aug. 2019thread, Feinstein states:
“First, Humphrey Fludd was a courier between England and France. The letter mentions it and we also have references to him in Winwoods Memorials. Henry Neville must have personally known Humphrey Fludd.”
- Feinstein, Ken. Tweet,
23 Sept. 2019:
“I discovered this letter in the National Archives. It was written to Henry Neville in May 1600 when he was ambassador to France.”
- The same second thread states:
“It mentions both Humphrey Fludd and the Earl of Southampton”
- Feinstein, Ken. Tweet,
12 Jun. 2019:
“This letter implies there was an important letter from Southampton that was lost at Henry Neville's house in London. It also suggests that Henry Neville knew Humphrey Fludd, a trumpeter and courier to France. Fludd was connected to Shakespeare's landlord.”
- Feinstein, Ken. Tweet,
11 Jun. 2019:
“Humphrey Fludd was a courier to France.”
- Ken's blog/Twitter interpretation treats the Winwood/Neville courier world and the May 1600 Southampton-letter notice as the same Humphrey Fludd network. This is plausible enough to preserve as a research lead, but the topic now separates the
PRO 30/50/2/97letter-to-Neville witness from the printed Winwood courier references.
3. Citations
- Robert Drury? Letter to Henry Neville, London,
6 May 1600, National ArchivesPRO 30/50/2/97, as identified in Feinstein's local blog note with Zurcher attribution. Local preservation: blog_southampton_fludd_2019-08-16.md. Local image witnesses from blog extraction: image_01_9c111d288b.jpg and address-panel/back image image_02_3a57dcad88.jpg. - Corpus caution only: Neville_Letters_Corpus_v8_Enriched.xml currently has the Fludd/Southampton text misattached as
original=data insideletter_097. Do not cite this as the letter witness until the enrichment is repaired. - Winwood, Ralph. Letter to Sir Henry Neville, Paris,
13 Jan. 1600O.S. Printed in Memorials of Affairs of State, vol. 1, p.289; identifiesMr. Fluddeas planned courier of Winwood's letters to Neville. Local PDF witness: Memorials_of_Affairs_of_State_Volume_I.pdf. - Winwood, Ralph. Letter to Sir Henry Neville, Paris, early
1600O.S., printed in Memorials of Affairs of State, vol. 1, p.295; opens "Have not written since my last by Mr. Fludd." Local PDF witness: Memorials_of_Affairs_of_State_Volume_I.pdf. - Feinstein, Ken. “Shakespeare, Southampton, Humphrey Fludd and Henry Neville.” kenfeinstein.blogspot.com, 16 Aug. 2019, https://kenfeinstein.blogspot.com/2019/08/shakespeare-southampton-humphrey-fludd.html. Local preservation: blog_southampton_fludd_2019-08-16.md.
- Feinstein, Ken. Tweet, 12 Jun. 2019, https://twitter.com/user/status/1138811796003753984. Local media witness: 1138811796003753984-D83fSlfUwAcadpJ.jpg.
- Feinstein, Ken. Tweet, 11 Jun. 2019, https://twitter.com/user/status/1138589902055006209. Local media witness: 1138589902055006209-D80VessUEAA2rvI.jpg.
- Feinstein, Ken. Tweet, 16 Aug. 2019, https://twitter.com/user/status/1162377569036976128. Local preservation: twitter_Humphrey_Fludd.md.
- Feinstein, Ken. Tweet, 16 Aug. 2019, https://twitter.com/user/status/1162378657916059648. Local media witness for Winwood p.
295: 1162378657916059648-ECGZObUU8AAtwSh.jpg. - Feinstein, Ken. Tweet, 23 Sept. 2019, https://twitter.com/user/status/1176177409936117763. Local preservation: twitter_Humphrey_Fludd.md.
- henry_neville_and_earl_of_southampton.md, related packet.
4. Notes on Access
- The strongest currently isolated direct witness in this packet is the
PRO 30/50/2/97letter to Henry Neville, preserved locally through the blog image/transcription trail and attributed in that note to Robert Drury. - Twitter-source audit,
2026-04-28: Ken's Twitter trail does not treat the Fludd evidence as just one isolated manuscript. It repeatedly links the Drury/Neville/Southampton manuscript letter to separate Winwood Memorials letters that establish Fludd as a courier between France and England. The packet should preserve both lanes: the Drury manuscript witness and the Winwood printed-letter witnesses. - The
letter_097/SP 78/43trail should be removed from the Fludd/Southampton claim. It is a different Henry Neville-to-Cecil letter, and the enriched XML has misleadingoriginal=text attached to it. - The user question about whether this was a “Neville letter” or “Winwood letter to Neville” should be answered as follows based on current local evidence: the direct Southampton/Fludd/Neville witness is a letter to Henry Neville, locally identified as
PRO 30/50/2/97and attributed to Robert Drury; separate Winwood Memorials references document aMr. Fludde/Mr. Fluddcarrying or associated with Winwood-to-Neville correspondence but are not the Southampton-letter witness itself. - The Bellot v. Mountjoy connection remains a Ken Feinstein tweet claim in this packet until a direct legal or printed witness is added.
5. Local Images



