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John Davies of Hereford, *Microcosmos*, and Henry Neville

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Topic: John Davies of Hereford, Microcosmos, and Henry Neville

Source-Control Position

1. Verified Sourced Facts

“Microcosmos The discovery of the little world, with the government thereof. By Iohn Davies.”

“At Oxford : Printed by Ioseph Barnes, and are to bee solde in Fleetestreete at the signe of the Turkes head by Iohn Barnes, 1603.”

“To the Noble, discreete, and wellbeloved Knight Sir Henry Nevill.”

“THere was a Time when, ah that so there was,”

“Whie not there is? There is and was a Time,”

“Th' art Vertue, Valour, Truth, and Honors friend;”

“Because thy noble name Ne-vile. denies the vile.”

“to the noble discreete and wellbeloved knight sir Henry Nevill ...”

“Why does Davies of Hereford call Neville “discreet”?”

2. Ken Feinstein Twitter and Blog Information

“Shakespeare Authorship Day 8: Many scholars have independently found parallels between the works of John Davies of Hereford and Shakespeare. Here is his Sonnet to Henry Neville from 1603.”

“Perhaps I am not making this clear. John Davies of Hereford wrote this epigram to Henry Neville in 1603. In 1616 he wrote this — immediately after Neville’s death.”

Quoted Source Passages

Follow SOURCE QUOTATION STANDARD. The direct witness is the 1603 printed Microcosmos text; the tweets preserve Ken's interpretation and discovery trail.

Printed dedication heading

"To the Noble, discreete, and wellbeloved Knight Sir Henry Nevill."

Neville-name pun

"Ne-vile. denies the vile."

3. Quoted Source Text

TCP A19903

Ken Feinstein tweet, 1 Jan. 2021

Ken Feinstein tweet, 16 June 2019

4. Citations

5. image witnesses Witnesses

Ken Feinstein tweet image, John Davies thread, image 1
Ken Feinstein tweet image, John Davies thread, image 1

Ken Feinstein tweet image, John Davies thread, image 2
Ken Feinstein tweet image, John Davies thread, image 2

Ken Feinstein tweet image, John Davies thread, image 3
Ken Feinstein tweet image, John Davies thread, image 3

Ken Feinstein tweet image, John Davies thread, image 4
Ken Feinstein tweet image, John Davies thread, image 4

6. Notes on Access

Additional Fact-Source Notes

2026-07-13 Deep Research Update: Complete Page-Image Collation

The open page-image task is complete. Archive.org leaf n291 was inspected directly at full-page resolution. The image confirms the heading:

To the Noble, discreet, and wellbeloued

Knight Sir Henry Neuill.

It also controls the entire fourteen-line poem:

THere was a Time when, ah that so there was,

Whie not there is? There is and was a Time,

When Men might cal Gold, Gold; & Brasse, but Brasse;

And saie it, without check, in Prose or Rime.

Yet should I call thee Gold, some (Brasse perchance)

Would saie I err'd because I nere touch'd thee,

And so did cal thee through meere ignorance,

Or (which is worse) through abiect Flatteree.

I am too ignorant (I doe confesse)

To iudge thy worth, which worthiest Men commend,

Yet may I say (I hope) and not transgresse,

Th'art Vertue, Valour, Truth, and Honors friend;

All which presume thou art not gilt by guile

Because thy noble name denies the vile.

The printed marginal note divides the name as Ne-vile, and the poem is signed I. D. The image therefore confirms details that OCR flattened: the heading uses Neuill, the poem is a sonnet-length fourteen lines, and the name-pun is explicitly signaled in the margin.

Placement in the commendatory sequence

The Neville poem is not isolated. On the preceding page Davies addresses “the thrice Noble and valorous Knight / Sir Edward Wingfield”; immediately after Neville he addresses “the Right Worshipfull and most worthy / Knight Sir Edward Dyer.” The sequence places Neville among named martial, courtly, and literary figures. That placement is a firmer research question than treating the poem as a generic commendation detached from its book: who organized this sequence, what relations joined its recipients to Davies or Oxford, and why does Neville receive the distinctive claim that “worthiest Men commend” him?

What the rhetoric actually says

Davies expressly says he has never “touch'd” Neville and is too ignorant to judge his worth directly. His praise is therefore represented as reputation received from “worthiest Men,” not as testimony of close personal acquaintance. This does not weaken the printed association; it defines its form. The poem is evidence that Neville's reputation for “Vertue, Valour, Truth, and Honors” circulated in the milieu from which Davies drew his commendatory subjects.

Direct witness: Archive.org leaf n291. Local render: davies_microcosmos-292.png.