Elizabeth Gresham Neville: Family, Thwaites Ancestry, and the Gresham Inheritance

Topic: Elizabeth Gresham Neville: Family, Thwaites Ancestry, and the Gresham Inheritance

Source-Control Summary

Henry Neville's mother was Elizabeth Gresham, the only surviving daughter and heir of Sir John Gresham (c.1518–1560) and Frances Thwaites (d.1580). Her father was the elder son of Sir Richard Gresham; her paternal uncle was Sir Thomas Gresham, founder of the Royal Exchange. Sir Thomas was therefore Henry Neville's maternal great-uncle, not his uncle. Elizabeth's mother Frances brought a second landed ancestry from the Thwaites family of Lund or Lound in Yorkshire.

The family relationship is often described too loosely. Elizabeth was her father's heir and Sir Thomas called her his “heire apparaunt” while she lived. But she died six years before Sir Thomas. She never succeeded to his estate in possession. At Sir Thomas's death, her son Henry Neville was found to be his next heir at common law. Sir Thomas's separate devise of Mayfield and Wadhurst, his cash legacies to the Neville children, Elizabeth's own inherited rights, and Frances Thwaites Gresham's estate were four different channels. They should not be collapsed into a single “Gresham inheritance.”

The complete private Act of 1581 has now been located in John Ward's 1740 Appendix VI. It confirms Mayfield and Wadhurst to Sir Henry Neville and the younger Henry, bars the younger Henry's wider claims against Lady Anne Gresham, preserves most rights that came to him from ancestors other than Sir Thomas, and settles the separate two-thousand-mark recognizance associated with his grandmother Frances.

Thomas Hoby's family chronicle adds a direct social witness: on 31 May 1562, Elizabeth Gresham Neville and her mother Frances Gresham jointly served as godmothers to Hoby's daughter Elizabeth at Bisham. This moves the Bisham relationship from geographic or book-provenance inference to a named family ceremony recorded by the child's father.

1. Relationship Map

Paternal Gresham line

John Gresham of Holt = Alice Blythe
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+-- Sir Richard Gresham (c.1485-1549) = Audrey/Adery Lynne
|   |
|   +-- Sir John Gresham (c.1518-1560) = Frances Thwaites (d.1580)
|   |   |
|   |   +-- Elizabeth Gresham (d.1573) = Sir Henry Neville of Billingbear
|   |       |
|   |       +-- Elizabeth, Henry, Edward, Francis, Katherine, William Neville
|   |
|   +-- Sir Thomas Gresham (c.1518/19-1579) = Anne Ferneley
|       |
|       +-- Richard Gresham, died young and without surviving issue
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+-- Sir John Gresham (c.1495-1556), Lord Mayor in 1547
    [Sir Richard's brother; Elizabeth's great-uncle, not her father]

The 1568 Visitation of London gives the essential descent:

“Sir Richard Gresham Knight marid Adery doughter of Linne of Northampt. and by her had ysue Sir John Gresham Knight, first Son, who maried Francis the doughter of Thwayte of Yorkshere and by her had yssue Elizabeth maried to Sir Henry Neuill Knight, Sir Thomas Gresham Knight, second Son.”

Gower states that the pedigree was copied from the College of Arms visitation and examined there by Windsor Herald on 1 June 1870. Gower, printed pp. 6–7.

Maternal Thwaites line

Henry Thwaites of Lund (will 1478, proved 1480)
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+-- Edmund Thwaites of Lund (will and probate 1500) = Joan/Jhenet
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    +-- Henry Thwaites, predeceased his father
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        +-- Sir Henry Thwaites of Lund (will and probate 1520)
            = Agnes, deceased before the will
            = Anne, surviving wife in the will
            |
            +-- Frances Thwaites = Sir John Gresham
            |   |
            |   +-- Elizabeth Gresham = Sir Henry Neville
            |
            +-- Katherine Thwaites

There is a gap in this maternal tree: Sir Henry Thwaites's 1520 will names Agnes as his late wife and Anne as his current wife, but it does not say which woman was the mother of Frances and Katherine. Online trees commonly supply surnames and assign maternity without citing the controlling instrument. Those claims should remain out of book prose until checked against visitations, marriage settlements, or Chancery records.

2. The Two Sir John Greshams Must Not Be Confused

This is the central identity correction.

• Elizabeth's father: Sir John Gresham, eldest son of Sir Richard Gresham, born about 1518 and dead in 1560. He married Frances Thwaites and had Elizabeth as his daughter and heir.
• The famous namesake: Sir John Gresham, younger brother of Sir Richard, Lord Mayor of London in 1547, dead in 1556. He was the uncle of Elizabeth's father and therefore Elizabeth's great-uncle.

John Ward noticed the confusion as early as 1740. After describing Elizabeth's father, Ward wrote that Oldmixon:

“seems (as others have likewise done) to have taken him for Sir John Gresham his uncle”

Ward then distinguishes the two death dates and says of Elizabeth's father:

“Tho he did not long survive his uncle, but died in the year 1560. His daughter was married to Sir Henry Nevill knight.”

The same page says that this Sir John married:

“Frances, the daughter and heir of Sir Henry Thwaytes of Lownd in Yorkshire knight, by whom he had a daughter named Elizabeth.”

Checked page: ward_john_gresham-043.png. Public scan: Ward, *Lives of the Professors of Gresham College*.

This correction also affects a modern secondary source. John Harley's 2005 article calls Elizabeth “the daughter of Sir John Gresham of Titsey, Surrey.” Titsey belonged to the other Sir John Gresham's family. Harley is useful for the Neville household and marriage chronology, but that place-identification should not be repeated for Elizabeth's father.

3. Elizabeth's Father and Paternal Inheritance

Sir Richard Gresham's 1549 will names Sir John, Thomas, Christian, and Elizabeth as his children and divides a substantial portion of his goods among them. His landed will gives the eldest son Sir John a large northern group that included the site of Fountains, several granges, lands at Lund, a share of Breedon, Intwood, and Swardeston. Sir Richard's Yorkshire IPM records Sir John as son and heir and gives an age of thirty-four in April 1551, while the Norfolk and Suffolk inquisitions say thirty and upwards in 1550. These statements place Sir John's birth around 1517–20 and make the unsourced online claim that his daughter Elizabeth was born in 1524 chronologically impossible.

Royal Berkshire Archives preserves the succession instrument itself:

“Licence to Sir John, son of Sir Richard Gresham, to succeed to his father's estates.”

The record is dated 1551 and notes an imperfect Great Seal. It also identifies Sir John as father of the wife of the first Sir Henry Neville of Billingbear. See RBA D/EN/F2 and the rba DEN F2 john gresham succession licence.

Elizabeth is repeatedly called Sir John's daughter and heir:

• the 1568 Visitation calls her his issue and wife of Sir Henry Neville;
• her 1573 funeral certificate calls her “datr & heyre to Sr John Gressam”;
• the Waltham monument calls her “sole heyer to Sir John Gresham Knight”;
• Sir Thomas's will calls her “dawghtter of my brother Sir John Gresham”;
• Sir Thomas's IPM describes Henry Neville as heir through “Elizabeth late the wife of Sir Henry Nevell ... the daughter and heir of Sir John Gresham.”

What is not yet fully reconstructed is the item-by-item passage of Sir John's estates into Elizabeth and then her children. The full 1581 Act proves that younger Henry possessed rights through ancestors other than Sir Thomas, but it also excepted several named Yorkshire properties from statutory protection. Those clauses show why a generic statement that “the Gresham estate passed through Elizabeth” is inadequate.

4. Frances Thwaites: Elizabeth's Mother and Henry Neville's Grandmother

Frances was not merely the wife through whom Elizabeth's pedigree was described. Her own lands, money, litigation, will, and inventory continued to shape the Neville family after Elizabeth's death.

The older Thwaites descent

Edmund Thwaites's will of 21 May 1500 asks to be buried in a chapel he had newly built in All Saints, Lund. It refers to “Henry my sone,” already dead, and to “Henry, my cosyn and heire.” The editor identifies that heir as probably Edmund's grandson. The will entails the manors of Lund, Garrowby, Sand Hutton, and Firthby to Henry Thwaites and his male heirs. It also names Edmund's wife Jhenet or Joan, his son Edmund, and daughters Elizabeth Langdale, Eleanor St Quintin, and Margaret Mallory.

The later 1520 will and its editorial note make the generational link explicit: the younger Henry was son of Henry, son of Edmund and Joan. VCH likewise says that Edmund left Eske manor to his grandson Henry, later Sir Henry Thwaites.

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Sir Henry Thwaites's will, 1520

Sir Henry Thwaites made his will on 30 June 1520 and it was proved on 2 August. He asked to be buried in All Saints, Lund, in the chancel where Agnes, his late wife, was buried. He left Anne, his current wife, a gold chain. His two daughters received individual objects:

“To Frauncys, my doghtour, one device of golde wt v diamondes and dyverse perles in it.”

“To Kateryne, my doghtour, one litill tablett of golde wt relickes ... also, my crucifix of golde.”

His feoffees were to hold lands in Yorkshire, Durham, and Leicestershire and:

“to bryng up my ij doughtours to they come to full age.”

The residue went to Anne, Frances, and Katherine.

This will corrects another common simplification. Frances was not Sir Henry's only daughter when he died. She and Katherine were both minors and beneficiaries. Later sources call Frances her father's heir or sole heir, so Katherine's interest must have ended or been consolidated, but the event has not yet been located.

The nineteenth-century editor's note says that a Percy feodary's book called Frances her father's heiress and that Lund passed from the Greshams to Sir Henry Neville. But the same note wrongly says Frances married Sir Thomas Gresham; she married Sir Thomas's brother Sir John. The property statement must therefore be corrected rather than copied uncritically.

Neville's own 1601 statement confirms the maternal Lund descent

The Royal Berkshire Archives estate statement D/EN/F6/1/6 now supplies the direct inheritance evidence that the printed editorial note lacked. Its heading reads 20 July 1601, not the inherited 1611. Neville writes:

“I had also in Yorkshire, w^ch descended to me from my mother the Manno^r

of Lund”

This is Neville's own description of title descent. It confirms that Lund reached him through Elizabeth Gresham Neville and therefore through the Gresham-Thwaites line. The statement continues that he sold part of Lund upon my first going ouer into Fraunce, receiving £2,400, and sold the remainder after returning for £1,000 to assist friends who were sureties for his debts.

The surrounding record sequence independently supports that account. Neville's 25 July 1596 copy letter proposed selling tenements and cottages at Lund to the tenants for £1,600. Yorkshire Archaeological Society MD239/73 places John Remington in the Lund manor house in April 1598. Remington's pre-embassy letter then concerns Lund lease covenants, purchasers, £500, and a Chancery release before Neville went to France. The nineteenth-century statement that Lund passed from the Greshams to Neville is thus no longer an isolated editorial lead; its central descent is directly supported by Neville's image-controlled 1601 words. The later passage from Neville to the Remingtons still requires title deeds.

See lund manor sale john remington boon days french embassy 1596 1601 for the complete transaction sequence and claim audit.

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Eske shows that not every Thwaites estate stayed in the Neville line

The VCH history of Eske gives a useful property control. Eske passed by 1500 to Edmund Thwaites, who left it to his grandson Henry. It then states:

“Sir Henry's daughter Frances and her husband John Gresham were dealing in land in Eske in 1538 and 1546, but the manor later passed to Thomas Grimston.”

VCH cites Chancery suits, the Thwaites wills, IPMs, and Yorkshire fines. The Eske example prevents the Thwaites inheritance from being treated as one intact block that automatically reached Henry Neville. See VCH East Riding, vol. 6, pp. 278–281 and the bho eske vch east riding v6 pp278 281.

5. Marriage to Sir Henry Neville

No marriage record has yet been located. The marriage had taken place by 1561, when the couple's eldest recorded child was born or about to be born. Harley states that Sir Henry married Elizabeth before 1561 and that they had two daughters and four sons.

A 27 June 1560 calendar entry provides personal context. Sir Henry, occupied with the Berkshire musters, wrote to Sir Thomas Parry and:

“Wishes for a quiet day to go a wooing in.”

The entry does not name the woman. Its date makes Elizabeth a plausible object of the courtship, but that remains an inference rather than a named identification. Checked page: cspd_wooing-171.png; Internet Archive scan.

A direct Bisham household connection: godmother to Elizabeth Hoby, 1562

Thomas Hoby's own family chronicle supplies a direct social relationship between Elizabeth Gresham Neville and the Hoby household at Bisham Abbey. Hoby records that his wife was delivered of a daughter at Bisham on 27 May 1562:

“The xxvij day of Maij was my wief delivered of a wenche betwene vj and vij of the clocke, at afternoone.”

He then records the baptism four days later:

“The xxxj of Maij she was christened and named Elizabethe. Godmothers and godfather were the Lady Frauncs Gresham, the Lady Elizabeth Nevell, and Mr. Jhon Doylie, Esquier.”

“Lady Elizabeth Nevell” is Henry Neville's mother, Elizabeth Gresham Neville, then the wife of Sir Henry Neville. The identification is reinforced by the other godmother: Lady Frances Gresham was Elizabeth's own mother. Mother and daughter therefore jointly stood as godmothers to Thomas and Elizabeth Hoby's daughter Elizabeth. The record places the Gresham-Neville women in direct ceremonial and family contact with the Bisham household in 1562, before the future ambassador Henry Neville was born or baptized.

This is more than a general claim that the families lived near one another. It is a named godparent relationship recorded by the child's father. It also supplies context for later Hoby-Neville book-provenance questions, although a baptismal relationship does not by itself prove the route by which any particular Hoby book reached Billingbear.

The next page records a different Hoby daughter, Anne, born and christened in November 1564, whose godmothers included her aunt Katherine Cooke. The two entries should not be conflated: Elizabeth Hoby in 1562 had Frances Gresham and Elizabeth Neville as godmothers; Anne Hoby in 1564 had a different set of sponsors.

Checked witness: Thomas Hoby, The Travels and Life of Sir Thomas Hoby, ed. Edgar Powell (1902), printed p. 129, PDF page 163, Archive leaf n162. hoby_pdf_page_163.png; Internet Archive page. The edition prints Hoby's chronicle from British Library Egerton MS 2148; the manuscript leaf still needs direct inspection.

6. Elizabeth's Children

The 1573 College of Arms funeral certificate gives the fullest contemporary list and ages:

The certificate's wording is direct:

“Henry Nevell her son & heyre of the age of x yeres & a halff, Edward 2 son of the age of vj yeres, Francis 3 son of the age of 5 yeres, Will'm 4 son of the age of iij months, Elizabeth of the age of xij yeres, Katheren of the age of iij yeres.”

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Frances's 1580 will omits the elder granddaughter Elizabeth from its principal division. The family monument says that the daughter Elizabeth was buried with her parents and grandmother, but supplies no date. She may have died before the grandmother's will, but the current sources do not prove the sequence. Henry received a separate heir's gift, while Edward, Francis, William, and Katherine divided the principal personal estate and recognizance proceeds.

7. Elizabeth's Death: Three Records That Do Not Agree

The sources agree on her identity and November death but disagree on exact date and even year.

College of Arms funeral certificate

The certificate calls her:

“late Wyff to Sr Henry Nevell, Knight, datr & heyre to Sr John Gressam knᵗ and of Lady Frances his Wyff datr and heyre of Sr Henry Thwate of Lound in the County of Yorke, Knight deceased”

It says she died:

“at Sr Thoᵐ Gressam's howsse in London the vijth day of November”

Her body was conveyed to Billingbear and buried at Waltham Lawrence on the seventeenth. Gower identifies the source as College of Arms, Funeral Certificates I.5, fol. 215, examined against the register in 1870.

Waltham monument

The monument inscription says:

“WHICH DAME ELIZABETH DYED VI NOVEMBER A. MDLXXIII”

It also records Dame Frances and Elizabeth Neville the eldest daughter as buried there. Ward's printing inserts Frances's burial date as 27 October 1580. Checked text: Ward, printed p. 6; VCH also describes the monument and its four kneeling figures. BHO, Waltham St Lawrence.

Printed parish-register extract

Gower separately prints a Waltham register entry:

“1572. November 16. D'na Elizabetha Nevile uxor Henrici Nevile, Militis sepulta.”

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These are not variants that can be reconciled by the old-style year beginning in March, because all dates are in November. The topic therefore preserves all three:

• monument: died 6 November 1573;
• funeral certificate: died 7 November 1573, buried 17 November;
• printed register: buried 16 November 1572.

The original parish register and the original College of Arms certificate should be compared before choosing among them.

8. Exactly How Sir Thomas Gresham Was Related

Sir Thomas was Elizabeth's father's younger brother. Therefore:

• to Elizabeth Gresham Neville, Sir Thomas was her paternal uncle;
• to Henry Neville and Elizabeth's other children, he was their maternal great-uncle;
• Sir Thomas's wife Anne Ferneley was their aunt or great-aunt by marriage;
• Sir Thomas's only son Richard died young, leaving no surviving child to displace the collateral Gresham line.

Early modern documents use cousin broadly. Sir Thomas calls Sir Henry Neville “my cowssin,” although the connection was by marriage. He calls Elizabeth his niece and his brother's daughter. Those word choices should not be forced into modern cousin degrees.

9. “Heir,” “Heir Apparent,” and What Elizabeth Did Not Live to Inherit

Sir Thomas's land will of 5 July 1575 gives the exact formulation:

“Sir Henry Nevell, knight, and by the heires males which he hathe begotten on the boddy of Ellizaberthe his late wiffe decesed, dawghtter of my brother Sir John Gresham knight deceassyd, while she lyved my cowssyn and heire apparaunt”

This sentence resolves the apparent contradiction in later biographies.

• Elizabeth was Sir Thomas's niece.
• Sir Thomas himself called her his heir apparent while she lived.
• She died in 1573, before the 1575 will and before Sir Thomas's death in 1579.
• She therefore did not become his heir in possession.
• Her son Henry stood in her line and was found next heir at common law after Sir Thomas's death.

It is imprecise either to say simply that Elizabeth “was not Sir Thomas's heiress” or to say she “inherited Sir Thomas's estate.” The direct documents show a changing sequence: apparent heir during her life; predeceased niece by 1575; her son common-law heir in 1579–81; statutory settlement in 1581.

Checked page: gresham_will-082.png. Public scan: *Wills from Doctors' Commons*.

10. Sir Thomas's Cash Legacies to Elizabeth's Children

Sir Thomas's personal-property will of 4 July 1575 makes the children direct beneficiaries:

“I geve to my nyce Ellserberthe Nevell to her marriage the some of fyve hundreath poundes”

“I geve to my nyce ... Nevell ... at her daye of mariage three hundred poundes”

“to Harry Novell at his ayge of twentithe ... one hundred poundes”

“to every of his sonnes had by my brother's dawghter one hundreath poundes”

The first “nyce” was Elizabeth's daughter Elizabeth, not Elizabeth Gresham Neville, who had already died. The unnamed second girl was Katherine. The editor's note identifies the four sons as Henry, Edward, Francis, and William. Payment to the girls was tied to marriage and payment to the boys to reaching the required age.

These cash gifts later produced collection trouble. Adamson records Sir Henry Neville's complaint to the Privy Council when Lady Anne delayed Katherine's payment after her marriage. The legacies should remain distinct from both the land settlement and Frances's recognizance.

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11. Mayfield and Wadhurst Were a Separate Devise

Sir Thomas's 5 July land will gave Mayfield and Wadhurst to Sir Henry Neville and the male heirs of Elizabeth's body. But he attached an onerous condition: they were to bear the charges of wardship, livery, and primer seisin for Sir Thomas's wider estate. If they failed, the gift was to be:

“utterly void to all entents and powrpos, and if they and every of them had not bynne meancyoned”

This means Mayfield and Wadhurst did not simply descend as property Elizabeth had owned. They came by Sir Thomas's direct devise after Elizabeth's death, to her husband and male issue, because of the family line through her.

The distinction matters for book prose. “Mayfield came through Henry's mother” is genealogically understandable but legally incomplete. A more exact formulation is:

Sir Thomas Gresham devised Mayfield and Wadhurst to Sir Henry Neville and the male issue of his late niece Elizabeth Gresham Neville; the 1581 Act then confirmed the property to the Neville line free of Sir Thomas's wider feudal-charge condition.

12. Sir Thomas's IPM: Henry Neville as Next Heir

Gower prints the Middlesex inquisition as Chancery IPM, 22 Elizabeth, second part, no. 36. It says:

“at the time of his death Henry Nevell Junior was his kinsman and next heir as being son and heir of Elizabeth late the wife of Sir Henry Nevell Knight, the daughter and heir of Sir John Gresham Knight deceased late brother of Sir Thomas Gresham Knight.”

It gives Henry's age on 21 March as sixteen years, eleven months, and ten days. A separate Norfolk inquisition, 23 Elizabeth, first part, no. 11, lists the wider landed estate. The heir-and-age passage belongs specifically to the Middlesex inquisition and should not be blended with the Norfolk schedule.

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13. The Complete 1581 Private Act: Quoted Source Passages

The formal citation is Sir Thomas Gresham's Estate Act 1580, 23 Eliz. 1 c. 5 Pr. It received royal assent on 18 March 1581 in modern dating. Ward printed the full Act in 1740, Appendix VI, printed pp. 16–27. The original-act route is Parliamentary Archives HL/PO/PB/1/1580/23 Eliz. 1.

The title is:

“An Act for the stablishynge of an agrement betwene Sir Henry Nevill knight, and Dame Anne Gresham wydowe, for the better performyng of the laste will of Sir Thomas Gresham knight, deceased, and for the payment of his debtes.”

The Act distinguishes father and son

It refers separately to:

“Sir Henry Nevill, and Henry Nevill esquire, sonne and heire apparante of the said Sir Henry, and coozen and heire at the common lawe of the saide Sir Thomas Gresham”

This prevents the elder Sir Henry's litigation from being attributed to his minor son as an independent adult actor.

It confirms Mayfield and Wadhurst

The Act provides that Sir Henry and Henry junior shall:

“have, holde, and enjoye the mannours of Maighfelde and Wadhurste”

together with the impropriate parsonages and Sir Thomas's other Sussex lands, to them and the younger Henry's heirs forever. If Henry junior were already dead, the property would pass to Edward, the second son. The property was discharged from the will's condition and from the wider wardship, livery, and primer-seisin burden.

It limits Henry's wider Gresham claim

Lady Anne and her heirs kept Sir Thomas's lands in Norfolk, Suffolk, Cambridge, Derby, York, Durham, Somerset, Kent, Middlesex, and Brecon without a claim by Henry as Sir Thomas's heir. Henry and other heirs were “utterlie barred and excluded” from those claims, and Lady Anne assumed the burden of Sir Thomas's debts.

It preserves other ancestral rights, with named exceptions

The final saving clause says the Act should not prejudice any right Henry had from:

“any auncefter of the same Henry Nevell esquyer (other then the said Sir Thomas Gresham knight)”

But it excepts Nunkeeling, Sutton Grange, lands at Ripon, and the rectory, parsonage, glebe, and tithes of Swine in Yorkshire. This clause is direct proof that Henry's maternal inheritance claims were broader than Sir Thomas's personal devise, while also showing that the statutory compromise cut off specific northern claims.

It settles the Lady Frances recognizance

If Lady Anne kept Sir Henry, Henry junior, and Mayfield/Wadhurst harmless from the listed feudal charges, then:

“one recognizaunce of two thowland markes, knowledged by the said Sir Thomas to dame Fraunces Gresham nowe deceased ... shalbe voide, and of no force in the lawe”

The complete Act therefore confirms rather than merely summarizes the connection between the Mayfield compromise and Frances's separate claim.

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14. Frances Gresham's Will and the Grandchildren

Frances made her will on 20 October 1580. TNA's catalogue identifies the proved copy as PROB 11/62/471, proved 9 November 1580, and marks it digitised. A complete nineteenth-century transcript appears in Gower, pp. 99–101.

She asked to be buried at Waltham Lawrence and directed that her lands:

“shall discende and come to the righte heires imediatlie after my decease.”

She then divided £400 held by Sir Henry Neville among:

“Edwarde Nevell ffrauncis Nevell William Nevell and Katherin Nevell the children of my sonne in lawe the saide Sr Henry Nevell Knighte and Elizabeth my daughter his late wief deceased”

She made the same four children beneficiaries of money due under the recognizance from:

“Sr Thomas Gresham Knighte my late brother in lawe deceased”

That phrase is Frances's own direct statement of the family relationship: Sir Thomas was her late husband's brother.

She asked Sir Henry Neville to continue prosecuting the claim against Sir Thomas's executors. Henry junior received a fifth part of her diaper cloths; Katherine received:

“all the Childes Bedd geare”

The residue went to Edward, Francis, William, and Katherine. For the recognizance portion she appointed Edward Neville of Newton St Loe executor; for all other matters she appointed Henry Neville the younger. Sir Henry and Humphrey Michael were overseers. Probate was granted on 9 November to Edward Neville and, the same day, Henry Neville junior.

This also corrects the Royal Berkshire Archives catalogue's tentative description of the inventory as certified by Henry and Edward Neville “(? her grandsons).” Henry junior was her grandson. But Frances's will identifies the adult executor Edward as of Newton St Loe, not the thirteen-year-old grandson Edward. The catalogue's parenthetical question should not be converted into a family fact.

Sources and checked pages:

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15. Lady Frances's Inventory and the Billingbear Household

Royal Berkshire Archives holds D/EN/F4, dated 1580:

“Inventory of the goods of Lady Frances Gresham, certified by Henry and Edward Neville ... executors.”

The catalogue calls it detailed and quotes an entry for:

“Chieldes bedd given to Mres' Katherin Nevell by will”

That entry ties the surviving inventory directly to the wording of Frances's will. Images and a full transcription should be requested. See RBA D/EN/F4 and the rba DEN F4 frances gresham inventory.

The c.1800 copy of the 1592/3 inventory of Sir Henry Neville's goods at Billingbear, now exactly placed as RBA D/EN/F43, preserves a room called:

“my Ladye Greshams Chamber”

The room-name plausibly preserves Frances's residence or remembered use at Billingbear, particularly because her will, inventory, burial, and grandchildren all connect her to the household. The copied inventory does not identify which Lady Gresham gave the chamber its name, so the room should be described as suggestive household memory rather than assigned without qualification. The photographed witness is a much later copy, not the original Elizabethan probate manuscript. Working transcription: Doc 68 Unmapped IMG 0302.

16. Four Channels That Book Prose Must Keep Separate

The 1581 Act then made the exchange explicit: the Nevilles retained Mayfield and Wadhurst free of the whole-estate feudal condition; Lady Anne retained the bulk of Sir Thomas's estate and assumed his debts; Henry's claims as Sir Thomas's heir were barred; most rights from other ancestors were saved, with named Yorkshire exceptions; Frances's two-thousand-mark recognizance was voided if Lady Anne performed the indemnity.

17. Funeral and Kinship Network

Elizabeth died in Sir Thomas Gresham's London house, not at Billingbear. Her funeral certificate records a journey from London to Billingbear and then to Waltham Lawrence.

Corroboration added 2026-07-13: Burgon (1839), ii, 443, independently states Lady Elizabeth Neville expired in London, 6th November, 1573, — at Gresham-House, as one of the Harleian MSS. informs us, citing BL Harl. MS 897, fol. 54, with the body removed to her husband's house at Billingbere, and interred in the church of St. Lawrence, Waltham. The Harleian folio is an inspectable second manuscript witness for the death place; OCR sidecar staged in burgon_gresham_sweep_2026-07-13 (see BURGON NEVILLES TRELAWNY WILL DEEP RESEARCH PASS 2026 07 13).

It names the female mourners:

• Mistress Elizabeth Thynne, chief mourner;
• Mistress Grace Staverley;
• Mistress Anne Staverley;
• Mistress Mathew;
• Mistress Elizabeth Barrett.

The Thynne presence is consistent with the wider Gresham family: Christian Gresham, a daughter of Sir Richard, married Sir John Thynne. The Staverley women also fit the later family archive, which preserves Staverton/Staverton-connected material, though each mourner's exact relationship needs separate work.

The heralds were Hugh Colgrave alias Richmond and Edward Knight alias Rouge Dragon. These named participants make the certificate useful for reconstructing Elizabeth's female kinship and household network, not just her death date.

18. Corrections to Preserve

1. Elizabeth's father was Sir John Gresham (c.1518–1560), son of Sir Richard, not Sir John Gresham (c.1495–1556), Lord Mayor in 1547.
2. Sir Thomas Gresham was Elizabeth's paternal uncle and Henry Neville's maternal great-uncle.
3. Elizabeth was her father's heir and Sir Thomas's “heir apparent” while alive, but she predeceased Sir Thomas and never inherited his estate in possession.
4. Mayfield and Wadhurst came by Sir Thomas's direct devise to Sir Henry and the male issue of Elizabeth, then by statutory confirmation, not simply as property formerly owned by Elizabeth.
5. Frances Thwaites married Sir John Gresham, not Sir Thomas. A nineteenth-century note in Testamenta Eboracensia gets this wrong.
6. Frances had a sister Katherine in 1520; “sole heir” is a later status and should not be rewritten as “only daughter.”
7. Eske left the Thwaites/Gresham line; not every maternal estate passed to the Nevilles.
8. The Waltham monument, funeral certificate, and printed parish register conflict on Elizabeth's exact death and burial dates. Preserve all readings until originals are compared.
9. The elder granddaughter Elizabeth's omission from Frances's will is not yet explained; burial in the family monument does not by itself date her death.
10. The executor Edward Neville in Frances's will was the adult Edward of Newton St Loe, not automatically the adolescent grandson of that name.
11. Online birth years for Elizabeth are not controlled. The frequently repeated 1524 is incompatible with the documented age of her father.

19. Citations and Source List

• Great Britain, Public Record Office. Calendar of State Papers, Domestic Series, 1547–1580. Entry for 27 June 1560, printed p. 155. Internet Archive.
• Gower, Granville Leveson. Genealogy of the Family of Gresham. London, 1883. Includes the visitations, Waltham monument and register extract, funeral certificate, Gresham IPMs, and Frances Gresham's will. Internet Archive.
• Raine, James, ed. Testamenta Eboracensia, vol. 4. Surtees Society, 1869. Edmund Thwaites will, pp. 175–177. Internet Archive.
• Raine, James, ed. Testamenta Eboracensia, vol. 5. Surtees Society, 1884. Sir Henry Thwaites will, pp. 115–116. Internet Archive.
• Ward, John. The Lives of the Professors of Gresham College. London, 1740. Sir John Gresham, pp. 5–6; complete 1581 Act, Appendix VI, pp. 16–27. Internet Archive.
• Nichols, John Gough, and John Bruce, eds. Wills from Doctors' Commons. Camden Society, 1863. Sir Thomas Gresham's wills, pp. 57–68. Internet Archive.
• The National Archives. Will of Frances Gresham, PROB 11/62/471, proved 9 November 1580. Discovery record.
• Royal Berkshire Archives. D/EN/F2, licence for Sir John Gresham to succeed to his father's estates, 1551. Catalogue.
• Royal Berkshire Archives. D/EN/F4, inventory of Lady Frances Gresham, 1580. Catalogue.
• Allison, K. J., ed. “Outlying Townships: Eske.” A History of the County of York East Riding, vol. 6, 1989, pp. 278–281. British History Online.
• “Parishes: Waltham St Lawrence.” A History of the County of Berkshire, vol. 3, 1923, pp. 179–184. British History Online.
• Adamson, Ian. “Origins: The Influence of Sir Thomas and Lady Gresham, 1565–1596.” So Noble a Design: The Foundation and Early History of Gresham College, London 1565–1710. Brill, 2023, pp. 15–88. DOI.
• Harley, John. “My Ladye Nevell Revealed.” Music & Letters 86, no. 1 (2005): 1–15. Local copy: Harley_My_Ladye_Nevell_Revealed_2005.pdf.
• Hoby, Sir Thomas. The Travels and Life of Sir Thomas Hoby, Kt. of Bisham Abbey, Written by Himself, 1547–1564. Edited by Edgar Powell. London: Royal Historical Society, 1902, printed pp. 129–130. Internet Archive; local travelslifeofsir00hobyrich.pdf.

Notes on Access

All extended quotations from the two Gresham wills, the 1581 Act, the Thwaites wills, the funeral materials, and the CSPD entry have been checked against rendered pages stored in the focused elizabeth_gresham_deep_dive_2026-07-10. The Bisham godparent passage was separately checked against printed p. 129 of the Hoby edition and documented in the ELIZABETH GRESHAM BISHAM GODMOTHER SOURCE PASS 2026 07 10. Public scans are linked in the citations above. TNA PROB 11/62/471 is catalogued as digitised but its probate images were not downloaded in this pass; the quoted Frances Gresham text comes from Gower's complete printed transcript. RBA D/EN/F4 is presently represented by its detailed catalogue record and still requires archive images and full transcription. The dated ELIZABETH GRESHAM NEVILLE DEEP DIVE 2026 07 10 records the larger genealogy pass.

20. Book-Use Formulation

A Garrard cosen in the 1598-1599 bond schedule

RBA D/EN/F6/1/5 adds a new reason to extend the Gresham genealogy sideways into City and Dorney merchant kin. The directly checked line reads:

To my cosen garret — 220^li — 29 Martij 1599

The 1568 Visitation of London gives the relevant affinity in two adjoining pedigrees. Sir Thomas Rowe married Mary, daughter of Sir John Gresham. Their daughter Elizabeth Rowe married Sir William Garrard of Dorney, and the Garrard pedigree names sons John, George, Thomas, and Peter. The Sir John Gresham in this chain was the younger brother of Sir Richard Gresham. Consequently, Elizabeth Gresham Neville and Elizabeth Rowe descended through the two brothers, and their children occupied a real, though not immediate, cousinship network.

This makes a Garrard-family creditor a plausible explanation of my cosen garret. It does not identify which Garrard was meant. Early-modern cosen could also express affinity rather than a strict modern degree, and the manuscript supplies no forename. Wills, bonds, and accounts for Sir William Garrard of Dorney and his sons should be searched for a £200 principal or £220 maturity on 29 March 1599.

A different candidate exists in Marcus Gheeraerts, whose name appears in English records as Garratt/Garrard/Garret and to whom the 1599 Neville portrait is tentatively attributed. That artist-name coincidence must not be merged with the demonstrated family pedigree. See the dedicated bond-schedule topic.

A concise but accurate account can now say:

Henry Neville's mother, Elizabeth Gresham, was the only surviving daughter and heir of Sir John Gresham, eldest son of Sir Richard Gresham, and of Frances Thwaites, heiress of a Yorkshire landed family. Sir Thomas Gresham was Elizabeth's paternal uncle and Henry's maternal great-uncle. Sir Thomas called Elizabeth his “heir apparent” while she lived, but she died in 1573, six years before him. Her son Henry consequently became Sir Thomas's heir at common law. The resulting inheritance was not one undifferentiated estate: Elizabeth's ancestral rights, Sir Thomas's devise of Mayfield and Wadhurst, his cash legacies to her children, and Frances Gresham's separate property and recognizance were settled through different instruments, culminating in the private Act of 1581.

This is the formulation to carry forward unless the original parish, College of Arms, or estate documents alter a specific date or property descent.