East India Company
Topic: East India Company
1. Verified Sourced Facts
- The local wiki page gives an:
“Investment Timeline for Sir Henry Neville”
- The same page states:
“March 1614: Sir Henry Neville admitted to the East India Company, described as “a very worthy gentleman, and may do many good offices” for the organization.”
- The specific date of the March 1614 admission entry is March 31, 1614. The British History Online calendar entry for this date can be found at the March 1614 page of the East Indies, China and Japan calendars (link preserved in Notes on Access below).
- The BHO calendar entry for
31 March 1614directly confirms the admission wording: Sir Henry Neville was admitted because the Company knew him to be "a very worthy gentleman" who might "do many good offices for the good of the Company." - The same
31 March 1614entry also mentions lending ordnance to the Muscovy Company. This is useful context for overlapping East India / Muscovy / Russia Company commercial worlds, but it should not be treated as evidence that the companies were the same institution. - The same page states:
“May 1614: "Half of Sir Henry Neville's adventure of 800l. in the joint stock to be set over to Sir Jas. Stonehouse."”
- The BHO calendar entry for
14-23 May 1614, specifically the19 Maycourt-minute summary, directly confirms that half of Sir Henry Neville's800l.joint-stock adventure was transferred to Sir James Stonehouse. - The same page states:
“May 1618: Permission granted for Sir Henry Neville and George Thorpe to each invest 300 pounds.”
- The same page states:
“August 1619: A payment of "100l. to be paid to Sir Henry Neville for timber."”
- The same page states:
“All entries link to the British History Online calendar of State Papers (Colonial series), specifically East Indies, China, and Japan volumes 2-3.”
- Identity distinction: the
March 1614andMay 1614entries almost certainly refer to the elder Henry Neville (1563-1615), while theMay 1618andAugust 1619entries must refer to his son, Sir Henry Neville III (1588-1629), because the elder Neville died on10 July 1615.
- Neville's own Winwood correspondence gives a direct contemporary witness for the East India venture before the company's royal charter. In a letter dated
1600-11-12N.S., Neville writes:
“There is a company erecting of such as shall trade to the East-Indies, and a fleet already desseined for it, whereof the Charge will arise to 50000 l.”
- In a later Winwood letter dated
1600-11-25N.S., Neville writes:
“The indian voyage goeth on a mayne, the charge will be about 54000 l.”
- These Winwood/Neville references do not prove that Neville had already invested in the company in
1600, but they do prove that he was tracking the formation and financing of the East India voyage as live political-commercial intelligence. - Winwood source-map hardening,
2026-05-01: the two1600East India references are now mapped asletter_078(2 Nov. 1600O.S. /12 Nov. 1600N.S.;Neville_Letter_1600-11-12_NS.txt) andletter_079(15 Nov. 1600O.S. /25 Nov. 1600N.S.;Neville_Letter_1600-11-25_NS.txt). Both now have visual page witnesses: the2 Nov.letter appears on Winwood vol. 1, Book IV, printed p.272, rendered at east_india_1600_nov02_root_pdf_page-257.png; the15 Nov.letter appears on printed p.274, rendered at east_india_1600_nov15_pdf_page-309.png, with continuation page east_india_1600_nov15_pdf_page-310.png.
- BRO/Royal Berkshire source-hardening,
2026-05-29:Doc_20a_D_EN_F6_1_16_Smythe_EIC_timber_1602.mdpreserves Sir Thomas Smythe writing to Sir Henry Neville on10 August 1602about100loads of timber delivered for the East India Company's ships. Smythe says the Company acknowledged the delivery as performed to its good liking and requested more timber if Neville could spare it.
- This
1602Smythe/Neville timber letter is not the same as the later1614admission/investment lane. It is practical supply evidence: timber for company ships, with Smythe acting as intermediary.
- BRO incorporation check,
2026-05-30: targeted searches over[local source path removed]foundDoc_20aas the only direct BRO East India Company witness in this batch. The BRO audit rates itOK - final spot-check only, andimage_evidence_map.jsoncontains crop anchors for the body opening/date and the outside docket identifying Smythe and100 loodof timber. The1614admission/joint-stock transfer and the1618/1619younger-Neville entries remain calendar-source lanes, not BRO-transcription lanes.
- Chester Dunning's article on the Russia Company is related but distinct. It concerns a
1612-1613North Russia protectorate scheme, not Neville's East India Company investment entries. Dunning does, however, help contextualize the wider commercial-company world by discussing Russia Company, East India, Persian trade, and Sir Thomas Smith.
- A 2026-04-28 full-text check of Dunning strengthens that contextual link: Dunning identifies Sir Thomas Smith/Smythe as governor of the East India Company and, from
1607, governor of the Russia Company; the commercial background to the North Russia scheme included revived Persian trade through Muscovy and competing routes toward the Orient. This is context for overlapping company worlds, not proof that East India and Russia Company records are interchangeable. - A 2026-05-01 BHO check added a separate April
1613Chamberlain-to-Carleton calendar witness for Neville, by the king's command, having "much conference with the council" about a proposed Persian / inland East Indies route through the Hydaspes, Oxus, Caspian, Volga, and Dwina system. That evidence now belongs in persian_trade_hydaspes_oxus_dwina_project_1613.md. - McClure vol. 1, printed pp.
445-448, now directly controls that Chamberlain letter evidence and preserves the phrasethe whole trade of Persia and the inland parts of the East Indies. Keep it in the Persian-route packet for detailed treatment; cite it here only as overlapping commercial-statecraft context.
2. Ken Feinstein Twitter and Blog Information
- No Ken Feinstein Twitter/blog material is isolated in this packet at present.
3. Quoted Source Text
Local East India Company page
- “Investment Timeline for Sir Henry Neville”
- “a very worthy gentleman, and may do many good offices”
- “Half of Sir Henry Neville's adventure of 800l. in the joint stock to be set over to Sir Jas. Stonehouse.”
- “Permission granted for Sir Henry Neville and George Thorpe to each invest 300 pounds.”
- “100l. to be paid to Sir Henry Neville for timber.”
BHO East India Company calendar entries
- “Sir Henry Neville, knowing him to be a very worthy gentleman”
- “may do many good offices for the good of the Company”
- “About lending ordnance to the Muscovy Company”
- “Half of Sir Henry Neville's adventure of 800 l. in the joint stock to be set over to Sir Jas. Stonehouse.”
Neville / Winwood letters
- “There is a Company erecting of such as shall trade to the East-Indies, and a Fleet already desseined for it, whereof the Charge will arise to 50000 l.”
- “The indian voyage goeth on a mayne, the charge will be about 54000 l.”
BRO / Royal Berkshire East India timber letter
- “The East India Company”
- “100 lood [loads] of Timber”
- “performed to their very good likinge”
- “towards the [furnishing?] of theire shipes”
Dunning commercial-company context
- “Sir Thomas Smith, governor of the East India Company”
- “became governor of the Russia Company”
- “Persian trade through Muscovy”
- “the whole trade of Persia and the inland parts of the East Indies”
4. Citations
- “East India Company.” Henry Neville Research Wiki, 26 Oct. 2020, http://nevilleresearch.com/index.php?title=East_India_Company.
- wiki_east_india_company.md, local preservation of the wiki page.
- Neville, Henry. Letter to Ralph Winwood,
1600-11-12N.S. Local transcript: Neville_Letter_1600-11-12_NS.txt. XML witness: Neville_Letters_Corpus_v8.xml. - Neville, Henry. Letter to Ralph Winwood,
1600-11-25N.S. Local transcript: Neville_Letter_1600-11-25_NS.txt. XML witness: Neville_Letters_Corpus_v8.xml. - WINWOOD_SOURCE_MAP.md, centralized witness map for the two 1600 East India letters.
- Rendered Winwood page for the
2 Nov. 1600O.S. East India passage: east_india_1600_nov02_root_pdf_page-257.png. - Rendered Winwood page for the
15 Nov. 1600O.S. Indian Voyage passage: east_india_1600_nov15_pdf_page-309.png. - Sir Thomas Smythe to Sir Henry Neville concerning East India Company timber,
10 Aug. 1602,D/EN/F6/1/16: Doc_20a_D_EN_F6_1_16_Smythe_EIC_timber_1602.md. - BRO audit entry for
Doc_20a: _BRO_AUDIT_2026-05-29.md. - BRO image-crop evidence map for
Doc_20a: image_evidence_map.json. - bro_transcriptions_source_dossier.md, source map for the BRO/Royal Berkshire transcription corpus.
- business_interests.md, lane-separated business-source map.
- "East Indies: March 1614," in Calendar of State Papers Colonial, East Indies, China and Japan, Volume 2, 1513-1616, ed. W. Noel Sainsbury (London, 1864), British History Online, https://www.british-history.ac.uk/cal-state-papers/colonial/east-indies-china-japan/vol2/pp279-289 [accessed 1 May 2026].
- "East Indies: May 1614," in Calendar of State Papers Colonial, East Indies, China and Japan, Volume 2, 1513-1616, ed. W. Noel Sainsbury (London, 1864), British History Online, https://www.british-history.ac.uk/cal-state-papers/colonial/east-indies-china-japan/vol2/pp293-296 [accessed 1 May 2026].
- Calendar of State Papers Colonial, East Indies, China and Japan,
1617-1621, Archive.org replacement scan/OCR, itemdli.ministry.01130: https://archive.org/details/dli.ministry.01130. Local OCR sidecar: east_indies_1617_1621_dli_ministry_01130_ocr.txt. Page-image source note: EIC_1618_1619_ARCHIVE_PAGE_IMAGE_SOURCE_NOTE.md. 2026-06-27stale-route capture for old BHO 1618 URL: bho_eic_1618_stale_pp164_184_2026-06-27.txt.2026-06-27stale-route capture for old BHO 1619 URL: bho_eic_1619_stale_pp258_268_2026-06-27.txt.- Dunning, Chester. “James I, the Russia Company, and the Plan to Establish a Protectorate Over North Russia.” Albion, vol. 21, no. 2, Summer 1989, pp. 206-226. Staged PDF: Neville_Russia.pdf.
- russia_company_north_russia_protectorate.md, dedicated packet for the Dunning article and North Russia protectorate scheme.
- persian_trade_hydaspes_oxus_dwina_project_1613.md, dedicated packet for the April 1613 northern-route council-conference witness.
- Chamberlain, John. The Letters of John Chamberlain. Edited by Norman Egbert McClure, vol. 1, American Philosophical Society, 1939, pp.
445-448. Local PDF: uc1-32106005854481-1782657835.pdf.
5. Notes on Access
- The
1600East India venture references are direct Neville-letter evidence from the local Winwood corpus. - The
1602Smythe timber letter adds a direct BRO/Royal Berkshire witness for Neville supplying timber to the East India Company. It should be cited separately from the later company-admission and joint-stock entries. - At the current BRO source tier,
Doc_20ais stronger than a loose lead but still needs final image spot-checking before exact quotation. Do not infer East India Company membership in1602from the timber-supply letter alone. - The
1600East India references are now secure at transcript/XML level and have visually confirmed rendered printed-page witnesses. The mixed PDF sources used for rendering have different internal PDF page numbers, so cite the printed page numbers (272and274) plus the rendered image paths rather than relying on PDF page numbers alone. - The
1614admission and investment entries are now directly checked against BHO calendar pages. The1618and1619entries remain anchored through the local wiki summary and should still be checked against exact BHO pages or scanned calendar pages. - Do not treat all entries in the wiki timeline as one undifferentiated
Sir Henry Neville. The pre-July-1615 entries belong to the elder Neville unless direct BHO evidence says otherwise; the 1618 and 1619 entries belong to the younger Sir Henry Neville III. - Do not fold the Dunning Russia Company material into the East India Company timeline. The connection is contextual: overlapping Jacobean commercial and foreign-policy networks, not the same company record.
- The Dunning article is now fully text-checked for the company-overlap point. Its best use in this packet is to explain why a Neville-connected Russia Company protectorate scheme and East India Company investment entries belong in the same broad Jacobean commercial-statecraft chapter while remaining separate evidentiary lanes.
- The wiki originally pointed to several British History Online entries with older URLs. A 2026-05-01 web check repaired the
1614URLs but not yet the1618and1619URLs: - East Indies, China and Japan, 1513-1616
- March 1614 entry
- May 1614 entry
- May 1618 entry
- August 1619 entry
Third-Batch Fact-Source Update, 2026-06-24
- The fact-critical distinction remains elder versus younger Henry. The
1614BHO entries belong before the elder Sir Henry Neville's death on10 July 1615; the1618and1619entries, if confirmed at line level, belong to Sir Henry Neville III. - The BHO routes for
1618and1619are now preserved as exact target URLs, but this pass did not produce a clean fresh line extraction from those pages because the web tool returned transient errors on some BHO opens. - Book use: present the East India Company evidence as commercial-statecraft context. Do not merge it with the Russia Company/Dwina material or treat every
Sir Henry Nevilleentry as the same man.
Archive.org Replacement Route for 1618/1619 Entries, 2026-06-27
- The older BHO routes for the 1618 and 1619 East Indies entries now return
Page not foundin this environment, and broader BHO searching encountered a CAPTCHA/challenge route. Keep those BHO URLs as old locators only until repaired. - Archive.org item
dli.ministry.01130provides a replacement OCR witness for Calendar of State Papers Colonial, East Indies, China and Japan,1617-1621. The OCR is noisy but searchable, and the printed index confirmsNeville, Sir Henry, 347, 717. - Page-image collation now confirms the 1618 entry on printed p.
164, entry347, underMay 8-15, Court Minutes of the East India Company. The page image gives the key wording: permission to George Thorpe and Sir Henry Neville to adventure300l.each. The underlying printed-calendar reference isCourt Bk. IV, 167-170. - Page-image collation now confirms the 1619 entry across printed pp.
287-288, entry717, underAug. 4, Court Minutes of the East India Company. The relevant line begins at the bottom of p.287and continues at the top of p.288:100l.was to be paid to Sir Henry Neville for timber. The underlying printed-calendar reference isCourt Bk. IV, 390-391. - Identity guardrail: these entries belong to Sir Henry Neville III, not to the ambassador, because they are dated after the ambassador's death on
10 July 1615. They are still important as continuity evidence for the Neville/East India/timber lane into the next generation. - Local replacement OCR witness: east_indies_1617_1621_dli_ministry_01130_ocr.txt.
- Page-image source note: EIC_1618_1619_ARCHIVE_PAGE_IMAGE_SOURCE_NOTE.md.
- Rendered page images: eic_1618_printed_p164_pdfpage250-250.png, eic_1619_printed_pp287_288_pdfpages373_374-373.png, eic_1619_printed_pp287_288_pdfpages373_374-374.png.