01 January 1590
Henry Neville to William Cecil
ID: letter_001_1590
To the right honorable my singular good Lord the lord Burghley lord high Treasurer of England May it please your honor to understand: That about michaelmas last my Lord of Warwick sent a gentleman of his one mr Blyncoe with a letter of commandment unto all the Gunfounders in Sussex to repair up to this City by the seventh of October there to understand his pleasure Concerning their further Continuance in that trade / whereupon the most of them appearing, and I among the rest & meeting at his deputy mr Hockenell's house, it was told us by mr Hockenell & mr Blyncoe, That upon complaint made by my lords of the Council of the abuse of transportation of ordnance into foreign countries, their honors had referred unto my lord of Warwick, to take order for redress of it, whereupon he had thought good to call us together, & had authorized them two to deal with us, & take sufficient security against the like abuses for the time to come, Now because it was thought convenient that some quantity of ordnance should yearly be made for the necessary provision of our own navigation, they had as they said upon good advise set down a general rate yearly which should serve the whole realm, and out of that they were content to allot unto every of us a certain quantity. But at our hand they required that not should enter into such bonds as they should think good, not to cast any greater quantity, then should be allotted unto us, not to sell any but in this City, nor to any merchant but such as my Lord or his deputy should name us, with certain other conditions of taking a stamp for all our pieces, out of the office, & some other small points. All which I for my part was well content to yield unto, except that which did restrain us to a merchant of their appointment in place whereof I offered to be bound to give my Lord or his deputy present notice to what merchant I had sold my ordnance, that they might require at his hand sufficient security against transportation; But this being rejected, I made them this other offer; That I would retail my pieces in open market upon tower hill my self, & enter into any bonds that they would require at the merchants hands, that they should name which should be as they said, not to sell any piece to any that was not a natural born subject or a denizen. This offer they liked very well of, & my lords deputy said, that seeing the danger of transporting, should be so well prevented by it, they could require no more. So that a day was appointed for me & others to enter into bonds to that effect & to receive our warrants notwithstanding the day after, I know not upon what occasion mr Blyncoe sent me word that my offer would not be accepted. Whereupon I desisted a long time, till at length all our gunfounders having proceeded all the year passing away, I ventured also to cast some such quantity as they in our conference had allotted me. For which I perceive my lord: of Warwick hath now sent for me by a pursuivant I beseech your good honor: therefore to consider of my case, & Judge of my offers / For my part if it be thought good for the state, that no ordnance be made, I desire to make none. / But if there be any allowed, I desire that I may make some of it as well as other, offering (as I hope I do) sufficient security to prevent the abuse of transportation: for this restraining us to a merchant of their choice I for my part do greatly fear that it tends rather to some private benefit then to the public good. And I have some cause to be suspicious of such a matter when I had made suit to my Lord for his license & he had granted it & referred me for the dispatching of it to one Pistor that then was his deputy, mr Pistor plainly told me, that I should have no license unless I would give (my Lord as he said) forty shillings upon every Tonne which I then refused, & I hope may do still, & therefore I do most humbly recommend my cause & my self wholly unto your honor: as upon whom I do & will only rely for favor both in this & all other my occasions, beseeching your honor to stand my good Lord in this matter And I shall rest in all your. honours most humble to be commanded Henry Neville
01 August 1593
Henry Neville to Robert Sackville
ID: letter_119
Sir. I understand by my servants whom I put in trust to deliver my ordnance unto you, that they have made delivery to your use at millall, of 44 ton 200 & 3 quarters, and at Lewes of 28 ton and 1300. before you had received of me at maidstone which I have your acquittance for, 79 ton and certain hundreds of ordnance, which in all comes to 152 ton & 3 quarters of a hundred. which is two ton more then I made bargain with you for. Therefore having delivered the pieces I hope you will not refuse to give order that I may have the bonds into mine own hands. for so was it agreed between vs, and our letter to my L. of Bergveny is to this effect, that when I shall appear unto him from vs both, that I have delivered to your use 80 ton of ordnance, he should deliver me the two first bonds, and when I had delivered other fifty ton, then he should deliver me the third bond. And these quantities were so named in the letter because I had delivered xx ton before, some at London and some at millall. therefore under favor there can be no colour to detain my bonds any longer from me/ Touching the xxv ton for which I received part of the money of Ditcher before his breaking and the residue was paid since to Mr. Sugdon, I have given order to my man to make delivery of them at lewes, viz to deliver 22 tone 1900 & on quarter, which. with the 2 ton and 3 quarters of a hundred that hath been delivered to your use above the hundred & fifty ton makes up the full some of xxv ton. likewise for the pieces which remain due upon the reckoning to Mr. Englestead (although the matter nothing concern you nor any bargain I have made with you) I have given order for the satisfaction of him, and have written to my man to deliver to him so many as remain at lewes over & above those which I have appointed for you, and the rest upon our next speech and reckoning I have appointed to deliver him at maidstone Thus much I have thought good Sir. to write unto you that you may see my intention to be the same now which I hope you have always conceived it to be, namely to perform iustly & honnestly whatsoever bargain I have made. I pray you on the other side, that you will take order for the delivery of the bonds unto me according to the agreement on your part. And so with my very great thanks for the warrant you bestowed on me for a buck, with offer of all my poor means at your commandment I take my leave. from Pillingbeare the first of August
27 February 1594
Henry Neville to Thomas Windebank
ID: letter_124
Sir. I purposed my self to have come to the court to you, as soon as our Assizes had but past: which made me defer my answer unto you so long. But the Judge having recommended some service unto me to be done with all expedition, I am enforced in stead of coming, to send you these few lines. Therein to render you all the heartiest thanks I may, for your so kind and so effectual remembrance of me. I acknowledge also your great love and favor, in the speedy dispatch of it (a matter otherwise not usual in that place) And therein I account my self doubly indebted to you. In some, you have bound me greatly by this courtesy, and shall find me ever mindful to deserve it. I send this bearer according to your direction, to receive the bill of you, and to discharge all matters at the signet, and so to proceed with it to the other seals. I pray you Sir. afford him your good direction therein. And so deferring my further thanks unto you, till I see you, with return of all good wishes from all our company here, I take my leave and commit you to gods good keeping From Bilingbeare the 27th of february 1593 Your most assured and ready friend to??? Henry Neville
26 December 1594
Henry Neville to Lord Burghley
ID: letter_090
Right honorable and my singular good lord. It pleased your lordship. of late to write your letter unto Mr John Dolman (who in my fathers time took the pains to keep courts under him for the honor of Donnington, and doth now continue to do the like for me) and therein to send him a petition exhibited unto your lordship. by one Joan wheeler widow, wherein she complains that he hath wrongfully granted a reversion of a Copyholds which she and her husband possessed, unto one Thomas Head, and hath refused to admit her tenant unto it, as by the custom, and by the presentment of the homage he ought to have done: Whereof your lordship. required him well to consider, and to do her justice therein, that she might not have cause to renew her complaint. For answer whereunto, because the matter doth rather concern my father and my self, then him who was but a deputy in the office, I have made bold to offer unto your lordship. a true relation of the matter as it stands, according to the information I have received from him / Richard Wheeler sometime husband to this petitioner, being tenant of this copyholds, and having therein no more but his own life, with a possibility of a widows estate unto his wife according to the custom of the manor if she survived him, it pleased your lordship. to write unto my father, to grant a reversion thereof for two lives unto one Cecil: who having the said grant accordingly made unto him, offered his Interest for a reasonable consideration unto the said Richard Wheeler. But the said Wheeler having no children of his own, would not deal with it him self, but gave his consent that Thomas head her majesty farmer of Winterborne, should buy the said Cecil 's interest in it: who thereupon compounded with Cecil, and took a copy thereof in reversion to him self and Henry head his son. Richard Wheeler since is dead: and his wife this petitioner, hath ever since enjoyed her widows estate in the said hold, according to the custom, until the last court and law day holden about Michaelmas last past. At which court, it was proved and presented by the homage, & confessed by her self, that she was married to another husband and so had been divers years. Whereupon her widows estate being determined and forfeited, by the custom of the manor, and the next in the Copy having right to enter, the said Henry Head (who was next in the grant) prayed to be admitted tenant to the hold, and was admitted: as of right he ought to be, and without any wrong to her, seeing she had forfeited her widows estate by her marriage. And whereas in her said complaint she pretends, that by the custom of the manor, the tenants children ought of right to be admitted to their fathers holds, and for want of children the next of kin, and no other, I assure your lordship. there is neither any such custom indeed, nor claimed by the tenants there. But the contrary is to be proved, by the continual practice and grants in all stewards times, as well by warrant of letter from your lordship and those which have held your place, as otherwise by the stewards themselves when they saw occasion. Neither indeed (in my poor opinion) can such a custom be affirmed and allowed, without manifest prejudice to her majesty, who thereby should be more restrained in this manor, then common parsons are in their manors of like tenure and custom. But therein, for the time to come, I submit my self to be ordered according to your lordship 's. good pleasure. In the mean time, I hope your lordship. will not disadvow this grant to Cecil & from him to Head, being made by my father upon your lordship 's. own letter and commandment. And whereas she affirms, that divers of the homage did present that she had right to the hold, Mr Dolman assures me, and requests me so to signify unto your lordship., that it is utterly untrue. And so hoping I have sufficiently satisfied your lordship. in this matter, with my humble duty to your honor, and my prayers to god for your good health, and long continuance in all honor & happiness, I humbly take my leave. this 26 of December 1594. Your Lordship 's. most bounden and ready to be commanded Henry Neville
15 February 1595
Henry Neville to Thomas Windebank
ID: letter_125
Sir. I pray you do me the favor, to let me understand by this bearer, whether the queen 's grant for the corporation of Newbery, be already passed under the signet and privy seal or nay. for my L. Treasurer desires to be certified of it. Touching the bill for Mr. Chambers which I sent you by your servant, I did let him understand of your friendly speeches delivered unto me at Pillingbeare concerning him, whereupon I see he hath made thus bold with you; or rather indeed I have made thus bold with you in his behalf. for him self, upon a kind of bashfulness or modesty, durst not presume to do it. But I assure you Sir. if any good may be done for him, you shall find him most thankful, & ready in all occasions to be commanded by you. Besides my self and all that part of the country shall be beholden to you, if by your good means we may be able to settle him amongst vs. And so till further opportunity of speech with you, I commend me most heartily unto you & commit you to god. from London the 15th of february 1594. Your assured friend to command. Henry Neville.
06 May 1598
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_093
Right honorable. I received even now by a messenger Commandment from your honor to attend upon you which I am and will be always willing to, and to do you all the service I may, to the uttermost of my power Only I beseech your ho:, as one that hath sometimes had feeling of the like grief, to respit me for a time; my wife being at this instant in great extremity (as her majesty. Physicians who were with her this morning can inform you) and ready to attend the pleasure of god for her last hour, I know not how soon. moreover Sir. if your pleasure be to Command my attendance about the employment whereunto I was lately named, I humbly beseech your ho: to understand and consider my poor estate at this time, which is now if effect in motion: I having sold my land in Sussex and some other places, in effect the chief substance of all I have, to bestow it in Berkshire upon some land which was Sir. Henry Unton 's, for which I am entered unto Recognizances of above twelve thousand pound to be discharged within three months, and all reciprocal assurances within that time to be performed. how impossible it is for me to accomplish this if I should be employed I do assuredly know. And not accomplishing it, I foresee the overthrow of my poor estate, and shall both serve her majesty. without comfort now, and be utterly disabled to serve her in any sort hereafter. I do therefore again most humbly beseech your ho: to free me at the least till Michaelmas And I shall for ever after rest most bound unto you and ready to be disposed, upon any occasion And so I most humbly take my leave. From Lothbury the 6th of may 1598. Your honor 's: most humble at Commandment Henry Neville
22 December 1598
Henry Neville to Thomas Edmondes
ID: letter_115
Sir Being commanded by her majesty to prepare my self to serve her as her ambassador in France, where your long continuance and employments has gained you the best knowledge of the affairs and reputation, I make bold in respect of the common tie of our employments tending to the service of her majesty, and upon confidence of that ingenuity and natural courtesy which all men commend in you, that I shall find all good correspondence in you, that is fit to be between her majesty's ministers.
Yet notwithstanding I think on my part to make it my particular suit and request unto you, as a matter regarding not only her majesty's service and the public weal advancement, but to my self it shall be also a particular obligation. And for that purpose, having determined to send over this bearer my Steward, to provide me of a convenient house and other necessaries against my coming, I thought good by these few lines to salute you and to contract acquaintance and amity with you, which I shall be further ready to increase by all the good offices I may, either at my coming or before as you please to use me.
And further to recommend my said servant unto you, praying your friendly advice and direction, in such matters as he shall stand in need of. The rest I refer till my coming which I suppose will be about the beginning or middle of February. And in the mean time with offer of all the best offices I am able to perform towards you, I take my leave. from the court this of December 1598
Your very assured friend and at your commandment
19 January 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_091
I humbly beseech your honor. to vouchsafe me the sight of the written book of Treaties which your ho. hath, & the use of it for these few days that remain of my abode here. I hope to make good use of it for the service I am employed in, for which I acknowledge my self to have need of all the helps that may be afforded me. I beseech your honor. also to consider of the point I moved you in yesterday, touching the sixth article of the treaty with the ambassador. for I fear, as it is, it may leave as great cause of variance & question, as was before. which I am the bolder in because the burden & trouble of all will light upon me. This bearer is the man I appoint to use for my secretary. your ho. may deliver any thing unto him, that it shall please you to send or impart unto me And so I humbly take my leave. this Friday 19th of January 1598. Your honor 's. humbly to be commanded. Henry Neville.
17 February 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_092
May it please your honor to be advertised, that upon perusal of the contracts and bonds of the French kings, and the schedules annexed unto them, I find it very requisite, not only to take copies at large of them all, but also to have the particular account from the Treasurers of the wars, for the Charges of all such troops as have been employed from hence for his service, thereby to be able to verify particularly, how every debt is accrued. for I make this account, that they will be glad to take all advantages to put of the payment. And if I come not thoroughly furnished of my proofs in every point, I shall but minister them some colorable pretext of delay, which they will lie in wait for. Touching the accounts, I beseech your ho: to give order to Mr. Ameridith to give me full information for the copies, I have already begun to take some; But I find it so troublesome, and of so slow dispatch, for me to go or send twice a day to your hours. house about it, that I would be glad it would please you to trust them in my hands for 4. or 5. days, taking a note of my hand for such writings as I receive. I beseech your ho: to let me understand your pleasure herein, and likewise when I shall wait upon you at the Court. for till I receive your commandment to come thither, I mean to attend this business here. And so I most humbly take my leave From London the 17th of February 1598. Your honor 's: very humbly to be commanded Henry Neville
17 February 1599
Henry Neville to Thomas Windebank
ID: letter_126
Sir. I was yesterday with Mr. Secretary & moved him about some gentlemen that are desirous to go over with me, that it would please him either to procure them especial licence, or at the least to insert their names especially into my passport; which he very willingly assented unto, & willed me to deliver their names unto you. I have hereunder written the names of those I desire to be specially remembered & I pray you heartily to take knowledge thereof unto him, at your next conveniency. And so with my most hearty commendations I take my leave and commit you to god. From London the 17th of february 1598 your assured friend to command. Henry Neville. Sir. Jonathan Trelawny Harbert Morley esquire Richard Carew esquire Thomas Moone gent John Chambers clerk and fellow of Æton college
19 February 1599
Henry Neville to Thomas Windebank
ID: letter_127
Sir. I heartily thank you for your friendly care of me & of those gentlemen whose company I desire./ I am satisfied, & so I suppose will they be, with their inserting by name into my licence. for there is none of them that intends any long travel, but to return within 6 months at the farthest. for the warrant for my diet, I pray you enlarge it with as much favor as you may. I do not mean in the daily allowance (for that Mr. Secretary hath flatly refused) but in the advancing of three or four months always before hand in such sort as e erle had it, whereunto Mr. Secretary hath yielded / A am yet detained with the perusing & copying of the fr. kings bonds & contracts whereupon his debts to her majesty grow & conferring with the treasurer of the wars about the same, that I may be able to verify the particulars of every debt I shall be directed to charge him with, which I perceive will be a chief part of my business there. That once done, which I hope will be finished by Wednesday night, I mean presently to come to the court. for gladly I would see both my letters of credence & my instructions before they be signed. therefore if the matter be committed to you to get them signed, I pray you make not to much haste. I send you back the copy of the passport, & the note of the plate. And so for this time I take my leave & commit you to god. from lothbury the 19th of february 1598. your very assured friend & at commandment. Henry Neville.
03 March 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_139_cecil_1599_03_03
Right honorable. I humbly thank your ho: for this favour to let me see my instructions before they be signed. I will peruse them with as much speed as I may, & be bold to use that further liberty, which as I remember you to give me, if I find any cause, as to return them unto your ho: upon monday morning. In the mean time attending your ho: further commandment I humbly take my leave. from london the 3 of march 1598
Your ho: very dutiful at commandment
Henry Neville
26 April 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_001
Right honourable, Dover, 26th April 1599. I received at my coming to Dover, a letter from my steward, who is attending me at Dieppe, dated two days since; wherein he writes, that Monsieur de Chacou, Lieutenant governor of Dieppe, hath received advertisement, that all French ships are stayed in Spain, with an intent, (as is pretended) to use them in the fleet, which that King is now preparing against the navy of the States. The Lieutenant rode presently with the news to Estampes, where the governor lies sick; and from thence to the court, to advertise the King; the matter being there generally very evil interpreted. I received here also a letter from Mr. Edmonds, dated the 20th of April, (but what style I know not) That the King was to remove to Blois within 10 or 12 days, and after some few days stay there, to pass forthwith to Moulins in Bourbonnais; with pretense to go to the baths to Pouges, but indeed with a purpose to take some order about the Marquisate of Saluces; and to receive some news from Florence, touching this marriage with that Duke's niece. I fear hereby, I shall not arrive at Paris, or Blois, before his departure; and therefore I humbly pray your honor's directions, what I shall do if I find him gone. I am here attending the wind, which is yet directly contrary; as soon as it turn I will lose no opportunity. And so for this time, I humbly take my leave. Your honor's very humbly to be commanded HENRY NEVILLE.
27 April 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_002
SIR, Dover, 27th April 1599. I wrote unto you yesternight by the ordinary post, of the advertisements I had received from Dieppe, touching the arrest of the French ships in Spain: and likewise what I had understood from Mr. Edmonds, of the King's remove to Blois, and from thence to Moulins; wherein I hope I shall receive your honor's direction for my stay till his return, or following, before I go hence; seeing the wind is yet so contrary, and the weather so foul, as we cannot put to sea this morning I received your honors letter, with her majesties enclosed to the French King; whereof I am exceeding glad, and do most humbly kiss her royal hands for the great honor she hath therein done unto me, which I pray God to give me Grace to deserve, and to do her service, which may be answerable to her Highness's expectation, and my own duty. I will endeavor in such sort as your honor prescribes, to procure that the King shall send over some personage of quality to be installed for him, and therein it may please your honor, to let me know, what person will be most grateful to her Majesty; for it is very likely, that in the choice of the person, they will chiefly regard her Majesty's contentment. I fear if this journey of the King's hold, it will give him occasion to put off all resolution (if not all cogitation) of payment of his debt to her Majesty, till his return. If it should be my good hap to find him about Paris or at Blois, and to have audience before his going; I desire to know her Majesty pleasure, whether I shall not even upon my first access move him in that matter; and also, whether having had audience before his going, I shall need to follow, or not: for if it might stand with her majesties good liking, and be no prejudice to her service, I would gladly settle my self and my family, before I undertake so long a voyage; and so hoping of your honor's speedy direction in these points, I humbly take my leave. Your honors, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
03 May 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_003
Right honourable, Dieppe, 3d May 1599. O. S. It may please your honor to understand, that I arrived in this town the second of May, having continued almost 3 days upon the sea. I found the governor, and his Lieutenant, both absent; but have received great courtesies of the Sergeant major of the town, called Monsieur Favet, by the commandment, as he told me, of the governor. Touching the arrest of the French ships, whereof I wrote unto your honor from Dover, I learn here, fortifieth his frontiers towards France; which should argue no great intention, to satisfy the King for the Marquisate; but of that I shall certify your honor more from Paris. I purpose to go hence tomorrow to Rouen, where I expect answer, by a Messenger I sent post of purpose to Mr. Edmonds, of the certainty and speed of the King's remove. That little time I remain there, I mean To employ, in learning as much as I can by our English merchants, of the nature and value of those customs, which are by the contract, to be assigned to her Majesty, for her reimbursement. I hope ere I arrive at Paris, I shall receive answer from your honor, of both the letters I wrote from Dover; and, & c. Your honors, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
03 May 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_094
Sir. I have been earnestly requested on the behalf of the governor of this town, by those gentlemen whom he appointed to accompany me here, to be a means to procure him a passport, to transport out of England 5 or 6 geldings which he would gladly provide there. And because he is a man to whom our nation hath been always beholden, as your honor. knows very well, I am bold to recommend his request unto you. And so I most humbly take my leave. from Dieppe the third of May 1599 stilo vet: Your honor 's. very humbly to be commanded. Henry Neville.
15 May 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_004
Right honorable, Paris, 15th May 1599, O. S. It may please you to let her most excellent Majesty understand, I arrived at Paris the 8th of May, and finding the King then in town, (tho'in secret manner at Zamet's house ,) I signified my arrival unto him by Mr. Edmonds, and prayed audience, as soon as it might stand with his good pleasure. He appointed me to come to Moret, a town some two leagues from Fontainebleau, upon the Saturday after, and promised to give me access upon the Sunday. Accordingly I repaired to Moret, where I found the Spanish Ambassador John Baptista Taxis, the Pope's Nuncio the Bishop of Modena, and the Ambassador of Savoy Le Chevalier Breton, already lodged all very near one another, and to my lodgings. The next morning, the King sent monsieur Gondi, and Monsieur Lussan, governor of Blaye upon the river of Bordeaux, and captain of the Scottish guard, to Moret, to conduct me to Fontainebleau; where I had a chamber appointed for me to retire into, and a great dinner prepared for me and the gentlemen that attended me. After dinner, the Duke of Biron was sent to bring me to the King, who by the way used very many compliments unto me, and protestations of his dutiful affection to her Majesty, which I was told to answer with some compliments of her majesties commendations unto him, and of her good acceptation of his good affection towards her, and courtesies and good offices he had done to her ministers here, and to diverse others of her subjects, that had come into these parts. I found the King in his gallery, who upon my approach unto him, advanced himself two or three paces to receive and embrace me; and told me, I was very welcome, and that he had advanced himself to embrace me, but to the Spanish Ambassador he had not stirred one foot, which indeed I learned to be true. I delivered him her majesties letters with all due compliments; and after some questions on his part of her majesties good health, I told him, that the Queen my Mistress being very willing to continue the good amity, that had been so long since begun and entertained between them, and knowing that nothing could be more available thereunto, than a good and real intelligence between them, had sent me to reside about his person as her ordinary Ambassador, and had given me charge to do him all honor and service, that was sit for a minister of a Princess that was his true and perfect friend, as she had many ways declared by lively and effectual demonstrations. That she had for that purpose commanded me to direct my whole intention to that end, to fortify this good alliance and union that is now between them, which I prayed him to be assured that I would not fail to perform to the uttermost of my ability, knowing that I could do nothing more acceptable to her Majesty, or more agreeable to her commandment. The King answered, that he took in very kind part, her majesties good disposition to the continuance of the amity, wherein he would never fail to concur with her in desire and earnest affection. That he had received so many real tokens of her majesties favourable intention towards him, as he could not, nor would not forget. That indeed good ministers were meet to be employed between princes, and might be of great moment, to the furtherance or hindrance of their Master's intent: that he had had from her Majesty diverse men employed to him, with whom he had treated with good satisfaction; but again he had found some so incompatible, and of so strange a nature, as he could not with any contentment converse with them. That he promised himself all good of me, both from the assurance he had received thereof by her majesties letters, and for the good report he had heard otherwise: and that I might likewise be assured, that he would use me with all honor and courtesy, as an acceptable minister of a Princess so dear unto him. I gave him thanks for his good conceit, and offer of favorable usage; and for my carriage in my charge, prayed him to assure himself, that I had received therein so straight commandment from her Majesty, as I durst not, nor had in any wise will to disobey her. Then I descended to the first point of my instructions, containing a congratulation of her majesties, for his preservation from the attempts which had been against his person, which I delivered in such sort, as I am therein directed; amplifying as much as I could, her majesties care of his safety, and ministering what jealousy I might with congruity, of them that had been discovered to be the authors, and persuaders of such practices. The King answered only, that her Majesty and he had great cause to praise God for their preservation from so many wicked practices against their lives, and that he trusted that God would continue to be merciful to them both, that they might live, and see as they had done, the confusion of such as intended mischief to them; which he wished with as great affection to the Queen, as to himself, to whom if she were a man he would call himself a perfect friend, but being as she is, je me diray son servant. I said I praised God to continue the extraordinary favor he had showed to both their majesties, for the happiness of the greatest part of Christendom, which had interest in their preservations. And so I proceeded to the second point of my instructions, touching the edict; wherein I said, that her Majesty was very glad to hear that he had so well provided for the quiet of his kingdom, and given so good contentment to his faithful subjects of the reformed religion, by the edict which he had lately published; wherein I said, that her Majesty did acknowledge his great wisdom in discovering the errors of his predecessors, who by a contrary course, whereunto they were led by evil counselors, had well nigh overthrown their estate; and that she was very glad (seeing God had so ordained it for his greater good) that he had found some difficulty and opposition in the passing of it, that so his said subjects of the religion might now receive and acknowledge it wholly from himself, and render him that entire love, obedience, and obligation, that so great a favor deserved; adding farther, as in the same article I am instructed. The King's answer was, that no man could better discover the errors of his predecessors counsel in that point then himself, for that it was he against whom they did chiefly put it in execution: that he saw very well that to continue that course, was but to put a knife in his own bowels, and therefore he had resolved to publish this edict, which he meant to see observed. That he had indeed found opposition in some, which were willing to dwell upon their former principles; but he had made it known that he would be le maistre, and that he thanked God he could tell how to make himself to be obeyed. I commended his wisdom and constancy therein, as the only assured means of true peace and prosperity to his kingdom. And so I passed to the third point touching depredations; wherein I told him first, what care her Majesty had taken to give him satisfaction, both for prevention of such offenses hereafter, and for the punishment of those that were past: in the former, by publishing the proclamation which his own Ambassador had been acquainted with; in the latter, by granting an extraordinary commission to certain chosen persons of wisdom and integrity, who should freely and wholly attend that business. Secondly, I told him the Queen did expect that the like would be performed on his part, and that good and speedy justice might be done to her subjects, of such wrongs as they had sustained by the French during the troubles; which through delay or want of justice, had been made more heavy and burdensome unto them sometimes, (by reason of their excessive charges in following the suites) then th'original loss it self; which I said her Majesty imputed in great part to the difficulties and iniquity of that time, hoping that now under his peaceable government, that he would take order that they should have redress, and find all good treatment and favor, seeing he had found them often ready to sacrifice themselves to do him service. Thirdly I said, her Majesty did likewise assure her self upon the promise made by his Ambassador, that this great liberty which he had granted to his subjects, to pass unsearched and uncontrolled into Spain, or any other place, should not be converted by them to her prejudice, either by coloring the Spaniards, or other her enemies goods; or by transporting into Spain, or any other of that King's dominions, arms, munitions, or any instruments or materials for war, either by land or sea; whereof I said she had given me charge to make special instance unto him, that some speedy order might be taken for her assurance, as a matter which might be otherwise very prejudicial unto her estate, and might give her occasion to repent her of her former resolution. Fourthly, having received your honors letters of the first of may, the very same day I went to Moret, by a Messenger which Sir Thomas Vane sent of purpose from Dover. I told him, as I was thereby directed, that her Majesty when she assented to make the aforesaid proclamation, and thereby to give free passage to all ships bearing French flags, did foresee that it might be very prejudicial unto her, for that th'enemies might by that means be sufficiently furnished with corn and victual whereof they stood in want; yet upon the confidence of his affection and true friendship towards her, and upon a promise made by his Ambassador in his name, that in times of suspicion, when that King might be thought to intend or prepare any hostility against her Majesty, he would be pleased to take order to restrain the carriage of corn by his subjects into Spain, her Majesty had been contented to pass over all difficulties, and to resolve to grant that liberty: now therefore that she is advertised, that the said King doth make very great preparations, with intent in all likelihood to employ them in these parts, by reason that he draws down his forces towards the Corunna and the north parts of Spain, (which otherwise he had no cause to do, if he only intended defence against the states attempts ,) she had commanded me to make earnest instance unto this proclamation is printed at large in rymer's foedera, vol. 16. This commission is likewise published by Mr. Rymner, vol. 16.. Him, to take such order for the restraint of the carriage of any more corn into Spain, (till the design of these preparations might more plainly appear) as is agreeable with the constant and perfect amity which he hath professed to bear her, and his promise aforesaid made by his Ambassador, so as she may reap the fruit of the confidence and assurance which she reposed in him. And that she had the rather commanded me to deal earnestly in this point, because she is perfectly informed out of those parts of Spain, that without the great supp'I of corn, which they have already received out of France, they would never have been able to have proceeded so far as they have done in their preparations. The King answered to the first and second, that he had understood from his Ambassador, her majesties willingness to have a mutual reformation in those causes of depredation, which he was very glad of, and would be found as forward on his part to establish a good course therein, as she had been. That he never had cause to complain of her majesties justice, but had always found her very inclinable to do justice, as a Princess of great honor, and the like intention was always in him: but there might perhaps be some defect in her ministers, who for their own profit, would peradventure not hold so straight a hand in these causes as was sit; but he knew her Majesty had no benefit by these matters, and therefore he was the more earnest to urge a reformation of the abuses, whereby many, and those of the best sort were prejudiced, (meaning, as I guess, the merchants ;) and few, and those of the worst sort, benefited. To the third he answered nothing in particular, but only said non, non, non, while I was speaking, as if he meant that he had no purpose his subjects should abuse her majesties favor and freedom granted them: but in that, and likewise in the fourth, I will urge a more particular answer at my next audience. To the fourth he seemed willing, and said, he would take a pretext to do it upon the arrest which they had made in Spain of French ships, upon which point he told me, he had dealt the day before very roundly with the Spanish Ambassador. He told me farther, there had been no very great quantity of corn carried out of France thither, but rather as he thought by the easterlings. And for the preparations in Spain, he said he was informed that they were such, as were not likely to be used for invasion of any of her majesties dominions, but only to withstand the states attempts. But that it was not amiss for her Majesty to take the alarm of it, and not to be unfurnished; and that oftentimes such false alarms were very profitable. He said further, that the drought in Spain had been so great already this year, as was like to breed an extreme want of corn there this next year, which he thought they would seek to supply by the easterlings. I told him, that her Majesty intended not to give that liberty to any nation, as she did to his subjects, because she had not that confidence in any, that she had in him; and that I doubted not but she would have a vigilant eye to the easterlings proceedings. Hereuppon he took occasion to tell me of the placard set out by the states, which he complained of as a thing injurious to his subjects: I said, I thought it an effect of great necessity, which had no law; and more I forbore to speak, because I understood by Mr. Edmonds, that he was jealous that it had been done by her majesties privity and direction. After these speeches he began to question with me about Irish matters, and asked me, what news I had of my Lord of Essex; I told him I had only received thus much, that he was well arrived there, after some difficulty in passing the sea, by reason of foul weather and contrary winds. Then he said he would tell me news of him, which he had received; namely, that 2 or 3 of the principal rebels were come in, and had submitted themselves unto him. I was ashamed that he should know more of those matters than I; but not to seem to be ignorant, I answer'd, there was a secret rumor and expectation of some such matter. Then he began to inquire of the peace between her Majesty and the King of Spain, and asked me how near it was to the conclusion. I told him his Ambassador had been made acquainted with all that passed in this matter; oh, said the King, I think I know more than he doth of it. I assured him, that at my coming away there was no more past than had been communicated both to his Ambassador there, and to himself, by Mr. Edmonds: well, said he, the other side tells me another tale: I protested I knew no more then I had said, and if there were any further proceedings, it was since my coming away, whereunto he replied not. These interlocutory speeches being past, I took occasion partly out of my instructions, and partly upon some instance made unto me by some of our merchants trading into these parts, to recommend unto him the maintenance of the free trade and intercourse between these two realm, alleging, that those were the safest and most durable friendships, which were founded not only upon the disposition of the princes, but upon the interest of the subjects also: and therefore prayed him to take order the intercourse might be continued, in such ample sort as it had been in his predecessors times, and and according to the treaties of perpetual amity passed between the two crowns. He answered, that he would have me present a memorial of that I required in that behalf, and his counsel should consider of it, and give me satisfaction. This is the substance of that which passed between the King and me at this first audience; for as touching the matter of Scotland, I understood by Mr. Edmonds, he hath already advertised your honor, that this King hath renewed th'ancient privileges granted to that nation, and confirmed amity with that King, with omission of such points contained in former treaties, as had any reference to enmity with us: and to receive confirmation on that King's part, he Rosni; therefore this alteration being grown in the matter, I thought it best not to deal in that point, till I understood her majesties further pleasure. Since my coming to this town, the Ambassador of Venice hath been to visit me, and likewise the Agent of the states, who tells me he hath commission I shall make my self partaker of his counsels or actions; for I see the states desire very much to draw some countenance from her Majesty, in all their proceedings here, and could be content to be thought to have very straight intelligence with her, and to do nothing without her privity. The treaty of peace begun by Cardinal andreas hath given the alarm not only to them, but to many other here; and th'Agent told me, that monsieur de Villeroy assured him it was concluded, and stayed but the Archduke's return to be perfected. The like he saythe he saw written from the French Ambassador in England to the Duke de Bouillon. I answer all men as my instru ctions direct me, yet I think it not amiss for her majesties affairs, that this King should be held in some jealousy of it. This day likewise, the Bishop of Glasgow Ambassador of Scotland, sent to compliment with me, and to excuse him upon his debility, that he hath not yet seen me. The Princess of Orange hath likewise sent to visit me, and would have come her self but that I went to the court; and to prevent her, I purpose to see her to morrow. I was willing to have delivered her Majesty's letters to the Duke of Bouillon, and monsieur de Villeroy, when I had audience, and signified unto them both by Mr. Edmonds, that I was desirous to have some private conference with them: but they both thought it sit to be deferred till my next audience, which I am promised upon Monday next, being their whitsun-Monday. I was desirous to have had it sooner, but could not obtain it, because the King had determined to spend this week in hunting, and in some secret walks to this town. Presently after the holidays he purposes to go to Blois, but whether any further or nay is not yet certain; for by reason of this concourse of ambassadors, he stayed his going to the baths till the season was past, and is now dissuaded by the physicians to use them this year. And for his journey to Lyon, it was not without some reference to the affairs of the Marquisate, where by the mediation of the General of the Cordeliers, sent of purpose by the Pope, and at the instance of the Duke of Savoy himself, he hath been contented to give him 2 months time more to advice of an answer. The Duke desired 6 months, but he hath yielded but to two, yet with a purpose, as I am informed from a very good hand, to enlarge it two more if need be; purposing to keep the Duke of Savoy in the mean time both in suspense and charge, while he himself may also make his provisions for the war, for the which he is yet utterly unready. Yet he lets not to set a good face upon the matter, and gives commissions to levy companies to draw down that way; and the Duke of Biron told me he had already four companies ready for that service. But the truth is, there is no money, nor any other provision in a readiness. I understand that the King told the Spanish Ambassador, that he heard some bruits that his Master meant to assist the Duke against him in that cause. If that it were true he said, he was as ready to march that day as the next to meet him, and that he would send a valet of his chamber, to wish him that either they might embrace as friends, or meet in the field. The said Ambassador hath expostulated with the King upon three points; th'one of the enterprise designed by Baligney some time governor of Cambray against that town; the second, that this King hath an Ambassador with the states, which he called his masters rebels; and lastly, that he suffered Monsieur de La Noue, and many others, to pass to their aid with good troops. The effect of all his complaints is only this, that the King hath promised to make a new proclamation upon pain of death, that no man shall go to the service of any foreign Prince or state, without his leave. I cannot yet learn by any means, of any design in this King to erect a navy royal, neither can I hear of any great increase of shipping in all the coast of normandy, though I employed some of purpose that way to discover it. True it is they have been somewhat busier in trading since the peace than they were before, and that must needs in time increase their shipping. At my next audience I mean to deal with the King about her majesties money, because I am like to have no more before his journey, although I have little hope of any great effect for more than 20000 crowns, which he hath already assigned to be paid at the instance of Mr. Edmonds, and that with great difficulty. I moved your honor before my coming away about the treaty of Blois, whether you thought it not sit that the King should be urged to the confirmation of it, being the most beneficial treaty for England that hath been made at any time. I beseech you let me understand her Majesty's pleasure in it, for I think the King will be easily drawn to that, or any other reasonable matter that shall be proposed, during the suspense of her Majesty's treaty with Spain, and his own with Savoy. And so desiring your honor that I may hear often from you, which will be both my comfort and my reputation here, I most humbly take my leave, recommending your honor to the safe keeping and gracious care of the almighty. Your honors, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
19 May 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_005
Right honourable, Paris, 19th May 1599. O. S. I received this evening this packet I send herewith unto your honor, from Estienne Le Sieur, with a letter to my self, without date of place or time, wherein he requested me to convey it to your honor with expedition. Therefore not knowing what it may import, I thought good to send it by this express Messenger. I have not yet any material thing to advertise your honor more than I signified in my last dispatch, only I perceive it generally believed here by men of the best place, that the preparations of Spain are only for defence: but withal, the proceedings of the state's fleet, begins to be doubted of: in which case it is not amiss to be thought of, whether that which was first intended for defence, may not be converted another way, when themselves are out of fear. The King's marriage with the Duke of Florence's niece is much in speech here, howbeit, I learn from very good hands, that the Duke of Florence hath made but a cold answer to Gondi's overture, who was used in it; namely, that the King did once before make the same motion, and afterwards falling in liking with Madam Gabrielle, he left it with her disgrace, having drawn some loan of money from the Duke upon that pretence. That since, he hath entered into some treaty with the Emperor for the match, and although he be not far engaged that way, but that he may retire when he will; yet till he may be better assured of the King's constancy, he sees no reason to do it. Hereupon they be at some stay, and know not what to build upon; which is likewise the occasion that the King's journey is so uncertain, only he resolves to go this next week to Blois, and there to stay two months, and there to resolve to go further, either as the matter of the Marquisate, or the proceeding of this match shall guide him. In the mean time, not to be utterly destitute, he causeth mademoiselle d'entragues his new favourite, and villar's wife, his late Mistress's sister, to follow this progress; and hath assigned to the former 500 crowns a month for her charges. Upon Monday next, I am promised a second audience at Fontainebleau, whereupon I shall be able to advertise your honor that shall be more material. In the mean time, & c. Your honors, & c. HENRY NEVILLE
19 May 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_006
Right honorable, of the same date with the former. SInce the finishing of my dispatch, I received from monsieur de Villeroy the King's answer, whereof I send a copy herewith. Thereupon, considering the King was removed from Fontainebleau, and Villeroy with him, so as I shall of long time have no means of access to them, I went this evening to monsieur de Bellièvre, a principal man in counsel, who is yet in this town, and complained to him very hotly of the answer, saying, that it appeared rather made par maniere d'acquit than upon any serious consideration of the importance of it, and that it had been fitter to have been given to a suitor that would have borrowed or begged money of the King, than to a Princess of that state, who demanded nothing but her own, when she had occasion to use it her self, having Lent it him in his extreme necessity. And I told him I found it so very unreasonable, and so likely to give her Majesty an exceeding discontentment, to see her self so little regarded that had so well deserved; that out of my love to the King, and desire of the continuance of good amity between their majesties, I would presume to conceal and suppress it till the King might readvise of it; and if I must needs return this, and could get no better, I would do it, but with protestation of the great wrong and ingratitude done therein to the Queen my Mistress. I told him, that if the King were not able to satisfy her all presently, yet if he had made offer of some reasonable part of it, it might have given her Majesty an argument of his willingness and care to content her: but to give her no satisfaction, having satisfied the States, the Swiss, and all his own subjects, (to whom he was no more tied than to her Majesty) argued a less regard towards her than towards them, which I was sorry to see, and might breed in her Majesty an impression nothing profitable unto him. And whereas it is alleged in the answer, that the assignations of the King's means are already made for this year, I told him, the King was not so much tied in honor or justice by those assignations, which were but his voluntary act, as by his obligations made to the Queen under the great seal of France, and verified in his court of parliament, and chambre des contes, and that there was none of those who had these assignations made them for debt or otherwise, whom the King had so much cause to fear to break with, as with the Queen, of whom he had received such real kindness. And therefore, if the King, to satisfy her in some good measure, did strain himself, by using his credit, or any other extraordinary means, it were but reason, rather than that she for want of it, should be driven into any strait or difficulty. The old man apprehended my speech very well, and confessed, it was meet the King should make the Queen a better satisfaction; but told me, that the matter was not yet come to the counsel, but when it should be communicated unto them, he would speak that which he thought sit, for the King's honor, and the continuance of the amity. He wished me likewise to write unto monsieur de Villeroy as much as I had said to him, which I mean to do out of hand; and as soon as I have any other answer, I will advertise your honor immediately. In the mean time I refer it to your honor's consideration, whether you will take knowledge of this answer or nay; and when you do, it were very sit her Majesty would deal roundly and quickly with the Ambassador about it, for that is the way to prevail most with these men; and so I shall be best avowed when I shall prosecute it with earnestness. In all things els I make no doubt but they will give her Majesty good contentment, and particularly I understand that upon the speech monsieur de Villeroy and I had about the treaty of Blois, it hath since been debated in counsel, and it is resolved, that the confirmation of it shall be offered. So likewise it seemeth the King will send one to be installed for him, but how soon I cannot yet certainly discover. Structed in all things that have passed here, and namely, in the points of my negotiation, that I should but disappoint your honor, and wrong him, to make any other relation. This I may not omit to signify, that I have found him most friendly and willing, not only to communicate really with me, but to take much more pains for me than was fit for me to require of him, insomuch as I hold my self very much obliged unto him: whereof, because I wholly impute it to your honor's commendation, being otherwise of my self a mere stranger unto him; I humbly beseech your honor to take knowledge thereof, and let him see that it is grateful unto you. I beseech you, Sir, to be assured, that I had no purpose any way to challenge you of any omission, in that I was not advertised of the news of Ireland which the King told me; for I had even the same conceit of it, which I find now to be true, that the Ambassador had taken up the news there at the exchange: but de been esse, I made that answer I wrote of. I beseech you think, that I shall take all you write me to be of favor, and what you write not, to be forborne upon good respects. This day were the obsequies of the King of Spain performed, and whereunto I was invited, but excused my self, that I was very willing to do the King any honor, but this action being designed wholly to the honor of the King of Spain, who died not in amity, but rather in hostility with her Majesty, and his son continuing in the same terms, it would very evil beseem me to be partaker of it, and besides my presence would but trouble the feast; for I thought the Spanish Ambassador would insist upon his Master's place and honor, and so would I upon the Queen's my Mistress; which might easily produce effects that would not be pleasing to this King, especially at such a time. My excuses were well taken, and I was offered a private place to see the solemnity if I would; I accepted it for the gentlemen of my company, but indeed I went also disguised my self, and repented me of my pains, having never seen a poorer thing. The young Prince of Condé, the Duke Montpensier, and the Duke of Nevers, were the mourners. The Bishop of Glasgow, Ambassador of Scotland, was lately to visit me, together with another that bears the title of Master of requests, who is sent to assist him. The Lord of Hume is yet in these parts, and for anything I can learn makes no great haste into Italy; which should argue that my Lord of Wemyss'intelligence is not well sounded; yet I thought it my duty to write it, being of that nature, and to name my author, upon whose credit I must lay it, if it prove otherwise. Here are diverse English gentlemen that seem weary of their exile and evil entertainment among the Spaniards, who seek to have access unto me. Among the rest here is Charles Paget and one Mr. Tresham, who was sometime a gentleman pensioner. I beseech your honor direct me, whether I shall give access unto them to make any use of them, or how I shall govern myself towards them. And so referring the report of all other particularities here unto this bearer Mr. Edmonds, I most humbly take my leave. Your honor's, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
26 May 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_007
SIR, Paris, 26 May 1599. O. S. It may please you to let her Majesty understand, that upon Monday last, being the 21th of this month, I repaired to Fontainebleau, and had access unto the King, where I delivered at large unto him that which I comprised thought it proper to print the state of the whole debt, as I found it drawn up by Mr. Levinus Muncke, who was under Secretary to Sir Robert Cecyll. More briefly in the proposition I presented in writing, whereof I send a copy here enclosed. His answer was short, (as his manner is) that it was great reason her Majesty should be satisfied of such sums, as she had Lent or disbursed for him in his great necessities, and that he would be careful in it to the uttermost of his ability, and would lay open unto me the bottom of his means, and make me judge of his dealing with her Majesty therein; but for that and the rest I had proposed, he prayed me to deliver a memorial in writing, and his counsel should consider of it, and give me an answer. I had the memorial ready, and delivered it, together with a note of the sums of money due to her Majesty, by bond or account, which he presently gave to monsieur de Villeroy, and then prayed me to sit down by him that we might talk: thereupon he fell into discourse with me of his marriage, wherein he told me, that he had diverse proposed unto him, as namely, a sister of the King of Denmark, a sister of the Prince of Anhalt's, a widow that had had children, but a very goodly woman, the Duke of Florence's niece, (whom he seemed chiefly to commend) and some in his own kingdom. He said he was resolved to marry, but he would first seek to separate himself from her that was now his wife, and had already begun to treat with the Pope to that purpose, from whom he hoped to receive answer shortly to his contentment: that done, he would think of another, and communicate his intention to his good sister, and pray her advice in it. Upon this occasion of speech of the Pope, he told me how respectful he found him towards him in all things, that he had very well allowed of his late edict, acknowledging that no violence could force men's consciences and beliefs, but they must be won by teaching, and good example. That he likewise intended to publish a bull of excommunication against all such as should attempt, procure, or favor, the murdering of him. That there was a quarrel grown between the Pope and the Spanish King, about the cense and homage of the kingdom of Naples, which being not performed or tendered since the death of the late King, the Pope had sent to cease upon the revenue of the kingdom, and the viceroy had imprisoned his commissaries; whereupon the Pope had excommunicated him, with threats that if that King persisted in those courses, the Church had a champion which never failed her in her need, whose assistance he would pray, and was sure he should find it ready in the churches quarrel, (meaning the King of France .) I told the King the Pope was politique, and to keep the Spanish King in awe he would be contented to make some good shew and demonstrations towards him; but I thought the Pope, or at least the consistory, too much Spaniard, for the King to make any great foundation of them. He said, he thought he had as good credit there, as the King of Spain. He told me he understood, that the Emperor was sick unto death, and that he had taken, as it was supposed, a great despite and grief, for that the Voivode of Transylvania had sent home his wife, who is the Queen of Spain's sister, and had resigned his estate to his uncle, Cardinal Bathory, which the Emperor made account of. He told me also, that he thought the electors would not easily agree of a new choice, because the most of them had no affection to the house of Austria. Hereupon, because I would found his intention, I said they needed not seek far for a worthy subject; his Majesty being so near a neighbor, and the princes of Germany so well affected to the house of France. He answered he had never ambitiously brigued or wooed for any thing, not for the kingdom of France it self, when he knew the practices and brigues that others made for it, but had ever depended upon letters d'ossat, vol. 3.. Edit. Amsterdam. + The King was desirous the English court should believe the Pope had a more favourable opinion of this edict, than in truth he had, of which I am persuaded the reader will be convinced, if he gives himself the trouble to read Cardinal d'ossat's letter to the King of the 28th of march 1599. Vol. 3.. Letters d'ossat, vol. 3.. Thouani historia,. God's favor, and his right: so in this, he intended not to sue, or woe for it; but if it pleased God to put in their minds to choose him, he had no reason to refuse it. This I thought good to advertise, as a thing not to be neglected; I fear as they grow in greatness, they will grow in insolence, and neglect of their friends. He told me further, of his proceedings about the Marquisate of Saluces, that at the instance of the Pope he had given two months more for the deciding of it, besides the two months granted before, all which term will expire in September next. That the Pope had assured him he would in this time decide it, and to his advantage; for which purpose he said he would draw himself towards Lyons about a month before the term would expire, to be in a readiness when it was decided, either to receive the possession quietly, or to take it by force, if the Duke of Savoy were so mad to stand in it. And in this mean time, he said he had gotten this advantage by the prorogation of the term, that the Duke of Savoy by continuing the forces he had already gathered, (which if he intended resistance he must be forced to keep together) would be consumed before the war began; whereas he himself need not be at any charge, but that which is ordinary to him; for with drawing down that way 10 companies, out of his garrisons of Picardy and Burgundy, and the regiments of his gards which did always attend him, and some light horse which he had given order should be in a readiness, he should be able to possess himself of all that the Duke of Savoy had on this side the Alps, Montmelian only excepted, which he would block, and then his passage to the Marquisate would be free. I said it was generally conceived that the King of Spain would assist the Duke, as not willing that this King should have such a footing and step into Italy. He answered, that his Ambassador at Rome, monsieur de Sillery, charged the Spanish Ambassador with it, who answered, that until the Pope had decided the matter, the right hanging in suspense, his Master could not in honor but profess to assist his brother-in-law in his right; but the Pope having decided it with this King, he did assure him his Master would not maintain an evil cause. After he had spent an hour or more privately with me in these discourses, he went with me himself about his house, and showed me his buildings, willing me to come again the next day to see his gardens, and the rest of the house, while he was abroad a hunting, and willed monsieur de Villeroy to shew me all, and so dismissed me with great courtesy, commanding monsieur d'entragues, a Knight of the order, who brought me in, to accompany me out again. The next day I returned, and found monsieur de Villeroy at good leisure, all the court being gone abroad with the King. I presented him the Queen's letters, with ordinary words of compliment, whereunto he answered with the like, that he would be glad to do her Majesty any acceptable service, in regard of her greatness and rare virtues, and of the favor and kindness she had done to the King his Master; he knew it was his masters pleasure that all his servants should be likewise her's, for the affection he bare her, and for the straight amity which was between them, which it was sit for the ministers of both sides to labor to preserve, and to increase by all means. I told him it was both my charge from her Majesty, and from thence (as he yet purprayed him I might find that disposition in him not in words only, but in effect, which would best appear, if it would please him to be a means to procure a good answer and contentment in those points I had proposed to the King, and after delivered in writing, which the King had given him. He told me in that, or any thing else which might concern her Majesty, he would do his best labor that she might receive all good satisfaction; but he had not spoken with the King since I saw him, because the King presently upon my departure rode abroad, and was not yet returned, (which was true indeed) and besides, there was none els of the counsel there but himself. But at the King's return, he would deal earnestly with him to send for his counsel, and especially those of his finances, without whom he could give no answer to the principal point, which concerned the payment of money. I prayed him to hasten my answer as much as might be, for that her Majesty might marvel I had been so long here, and returned her no answer of any thing she gave me in charge, and might perhaps condemn me of negligence. I prayed him also not to refer my answer to the financiers, for they were like enough (according to their custom) to find many difficulties, rather than they would part with any money. But I desired him, as a principal minister of the kings, by whom his affairs were chiefly directed, to enter into due consideration how meet it was for the King in honor and justice to give her Majesty contentment herein, she having showed so princely and entire an affection to him, in all his necessities, and requiring now nothing of him but her own, and that in such time as she had apparent occasion to use it, and he by reason of his peace at home and abroad, might best spare it. He said, the King both ought and would strain himself, to give her Majesty contentment, as far as his state would permit; but to deal plainly with me, and not to feed me with words, he thought he was not able to content her for the present with any money. I said, that answer might perhaps serve if she went about to borrow any money of him, but she demanding nothing but her own, Lent in his necessity, and when she might evil have spared it, and to furnish him was fain to disaccommodate her self, whereby she is now driven to want; the King was bound in honor to satisfy her, though with some difficulties and extraordinary means, rather than to drive her for want of it, unto any extremity or inconvenience. I told him her Majesty was a great Princess, and did not contract amity upon any disadvantage, but upon equal terms and interests. That hitherto the amity with the King had been rather burdensome than profitable unto her, the King having drawn from her, assistance both of men and money, and she nothing but promise and hope from him; whereof, although she did not repent, yet according to the nature of amity, which consists upon mutual offices and interests, she did look now to receive some return of kindness from him; and this being the least of all other, to recover her own, if he did no more regard her satisfaction in this, she might little look for it in any greater measure. I told him further, that the King had already given satisfaction to the States, and was now about to do the like to the Swiss, to the value of 500000 crowns; that he had likewise given contentment to all his rebellious subjects, with whom he had made compositions; and if amongst all these, he should only neglect her Majesty, it would give her just cause to think, that he made not that account of her amity, which by the greatness of her estate, and the sincerity of her friendship towards him, she might justly challenge. He answered, that he would solicit the King, which was all he could do in it, and when the King had given order in it, he would likewise solicit the dispatch. Then he required of me the copies of the bonds, which I have since sent unto him, and have likewise written unto him to hasten my answer. Touching the matter of the carriage of the corn into Spain, he told me, that the King hath already written unto all the ports, that they should forbear to trade with Spain, both in respect of the arrest made there of French ships, and likewise of the placard set out by the states, for fear they should meet with them, and make prize of them. But when I replied, that these respects were but for a time, but that the other respect of the Queen my Mistress was like to continue, and therefore prayed to know what I should answer, he said I should have answer to that point as well as to the rest, in writing. For the third point contained in my written proposition, he hath assented thus far, and willed me so to certify, that the King shall by proclamation forbid his subjects to buy or provide any arms, munitions, or materials for war in any foreign country, and to carry them into any country except France. And if this be liked of, he desired th'articles might be finished and put into a forme of a treaty, that both her Majesty and the King might sign it. But being once entered into this argument, he fell into bitter exclamations against our justice, and told me (as the King had likewise done the day before) that the Ambassador had written, that though the Queen's Majesty had given him all contentment and promise of reformation, yet he found all was stayed by other means, and that he should be forced to send back the parties that sued, to seek remedy here. I told him, I feared the Ambassador took too passionate a report from the parties themselves, who measure justice but by their own affection: that I knew her Majesty was fully bent to do justice, but it may be there was some stay made of proceeding in the course she had established, till it might be seen what correspondence they yielded here: that the Queen had already established a commission for that purpose, which the King had not yet done; and till they were as forward on their part, as the Queen had been on hers, they had no reason to complain, for princes used to march with equal paces; but the Queen had so used to prevent them with kindness, that it seemed they looked for it still. I offered if he would give me the particularities of his complaints, I would write of it. He answered, the Ambassador was best acquainted with the particulars, and prayed me only to write in General, that there might be good justice done, the want or refusal whereof, might otherwise interrupt all good intentions between their majesties; assuring me that the King would do the like; and though the commission was not established, that he would cause justice to be done upon any complaint I would deliver: yet if the Queen stayed upon those respects, or any other, about the intercourse of renewing of treaties, (wherein he said the King would be ready to meet the Queen half way ,) he desired that they might be accelerated, and that we might begin to put pen to paper, either here or there. Hereupon we fell into some speech of the treaty of Blois, why this King made no declaration of his intention to continue it, as the treaty requires. He said the King made account it had been sufficiently confirmed by that of 1596, and if it were not, the King was willing to do any thing that might be to the confirmation of amity and intercourse. Thereupon, because I understood by Mr. Edmonds he had already dealt with the King and him for an exemption for our English merchants du droict d'aubeine, which is very greavous unto them, for that such as dye here lose their goods without remedy, not having power by will to dispose of them; I urged him to shew some token of the King's good will towards our nation that way, as he had done of late to the Low-country men, who had not better deserved of him, than ours had done. And the rather to induce him, I alleged the treaty of Blois, wherein that point was accorded unto us. He answered first for the immunity granted to the states, it was required by them, and yielded to in a time when the King had need of them, and might deny them nothing. To which I replied, that it was more honor for the King to requite kindness with kindness freely, than to do all things by the way of bargain: that the Queen had dealt like an honorable princess, and had not made merchandise of her favors, yet she had reason to look for some fruit of her friendship. To the point of the treaty of Blois, he said that we had not performed it on our part, I asked him wherein we had made default; he said it had never been executed, but the intercourse was presently discontinued. I answer'd, that was not our fault but theirs, for the massacre followed immediately, wherein our men were murdered, and their goods spoiled, without any justice or remedy; but now that peace was established, and our men began to revive that trade into these parts, it was reasonable they should enjoy the privileges due unto them by the treaty. To this he only answered, that when all the rest was agreed on, this would easily be determined, but to single it from the rest he saw no reason. The last point of my proposition touching Collesford, I did add upon information from Mr. Edmonds, of the daily practices of that man to draw over young English gentlemen, and to convey them to Rome: wherein I am to advertise your honor, that the searchers of Sandwich and Dover do not their duties, but are daily corrupted as I am informed; and not only that way, but for the passage over of geldings, which from thence and Rye, are continually shipped over in good plenty. I had some speech with monsieur Villeroy about the Spanish preparations, which he assured me upon perfect information, were not any way meet to attempt an invasion, but only to be used for defence. But the next year he said if we made not peace, he thought they intended some attempt upon us. I learned both by the King and him, that + coomans, who was employed lately into England from the cardinal, passed this way within these few days into Spain, having in his speech with the King professed himself as it were an enemy to the Spaniards, but a Servant of the Archduke's, and a great wisher of peace, that by that means the country might be freed from the spaniards. He professes himself likewise of the religion, and was present the last Sunday, as the Duke of Bouillon told me, at the assembly of the protestants at Grigny five leagues from Paris towards Fontainebleau. It is thought he goeth to work the King of Spain to be more inclinable to the peace, whereunto these messieurs, both Villeroy and others, would fain persuade me, that that King hath no inclination, but is only contented to harken unto it, for the benefit, and at the instance of the cardinal. Touching our peace with Spain, they pretend here in words to be very desirous of it, that we might have rest from our troubles, as they have. But the truth is they are jealous of it, and I think it sit they should be so held till her Majesty be resolved: and in the mean time that they be urged instantly to whatsoever her Majesty shall think sit to draw from them: for it is not good nature or gratitude, but interest of state that must prevail with them. It is commonly believed, that if it were not for the war with England, the King of Spain would easily embark himself into the Duke of Savoy's quarrel: so as if her Majesty intend any peace with Spain, it may advantage her much to make it before this term given to the Duke of Savoy expire; for this occasion once passed, there is no likelihood of any probable occasion of breach to grow between them in haste, which I hold very sit for her Majesty's affairs not to be neglected. The King is this day departed from Fontainebleau, minding to pass his time at monsieur d'entrague's house, and sundry other gentlemens for 15 or 20 days, and so to settle at Blois, where he intends to remain a month or two, till he proceed towards Lyons. I do not yet learn of any order given to the ambassadors to follow: but I beseech you let me understand her Majesty's direct pleasure in it, for I am very desirous to conform my self thereunto, though I know her allowance will not discharge my lodging and my horses, besides my diet and other charges; but I trust for my horses and my carriages, her Majesty will be pleased to allow me as she hath done all other ambassadors in like cases. And so, & c. Your honors, & c. HENRY NEVILLE
30 May 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_158_megaletters_1599_05_30_cecil
Right Honorable I have thought good to send your Honor here enclosed a Copy of my letter to Mr Villeroy, & likewise of his answer to it which I received this day, humbly praying I may be directed how I shall further proceed in that matter If her Majesty approve my earnestness in the pursuit of it. I beseech her to concur in like sort when she deals with the Ambassador there about it: for otherwise they will conceive it is but my doing pour faire le bon valet, and they will regard it accordingly. I beseech you Sir also let me understand her pleasure about my following the King: in his progress The Agent of the Estates is much discontented with the Proclamation which the King is about to publish for the revocation of Monsieur de la Noüe, & the Troops which are gone to the service of the Estates, wherein though the King promises to give secret advice to la Noüe & the principal of them not to fear or stir upon it yet he doubts that the generality which shall not know the secret will apprehend the danger and withdraw themselves which will be very unreasonable for their affairs. It seems the King whilst the matter of the Marquisate depends will not
give the King of Spaine any cause of discontentment least he should take it for a pretext to embark himself in that quarrel. And for the same purpose there having been lately discover an enterprise which the Count Maurice had upon a Town called Purlemont not far from Sedan, wherein certain french men of the Kings garrisons adjacent were employed, the King: has sent a Provost thither to do road Justice upon them & to proceed to their execution. There are letters come out of Spaine of the 20 th may stilo nouo which make mention that the Archduke & the Infanta were to Embark at Barcellona upon the 5 th June: They purpose as I hear to return by the way of Tirol & it will be the middle of August before they can arrive in the Low Countries: The opinion in this Court is that the Spanish Camp must be forced to rise from before Bommel very shortly: It is very constantly reported here that the states army is already past along their coast to the west ward & that there were discovered to the west in 2 fleets to the number of 140: sail. The Agent gives out that they will be able to put 8000 or 10000: on land. The Spanish preparations on the other side are thought here to be very weak. The news of Ireland are much enquired after thus having no other matter at this present fit for your Honors knowledge I humbly take my leave from Paris the 30 th may: 99
Your Honors very humbly to be Commanded
Hen: Neville
06 June 1599
Henry Neville to Queen Elizabeth
ID: letter_159_winwood_1599_06_06_queen
To her sacred Majesty
Most gratious Soueraigne the Inward witnesse I daily feele of my many wants for a charge of this nature & waight which your Majesty has laied upon me would greatly dismay me, were it not that I know that there is in your most excellent Majesty all abondance both of wisedom by your Princely directions to supplie my deffects & of gratious disposition with favor to entertain my endeauors: whereof as I have already received a comfortable tast by your Majesty's gratious acceptation of my first negotiation with this King for which I doe render all humble & possible thanks, so doe I most humbly beeseech your most excellent Majesty to continue in like gratious sort to pardon & accept my poor & weak endeauours hereafter who as I said unto your Majesty when it pleased you first to Impose this charge upon me can promise nothing of my self but faith & dilligence which I doe vow not to fail in nor to omit any help I may with any Industrie procure to enable me for the service: In which kind I should be very ingratefull If I should not a true testimony of this Gent: Mr Edmonds, & acknowledging the great light I have received by his frendly & reall communicating with me his knowledg of the affairs of this State which I assure your Majesty to be very exquisite & his Judgment and sufficiencie such w: thall as I hold him to have been a worthy Minister of your Majesty's here, & to be very able to doe you good service wheresoeuer it shall be your gratious pleasure to make further use of him: He comes so perfectly
so perfectly instructed of all matters here and so well acquainted with my Negotiations since my arrival as I hold it not fit to trouble your Majesty with any other relation than that he will make at his repaire unto your presence unto which I referr my self & there w: thall I doe with all humillitie Kiss your Royall hands, beseeching God long to preserve your most excellent Majesty in health with Increase of all Princely Honor & happiness From Paris the 6 th of June 99.
Your sacred Majesty's most humble, & duetyfull subject & servant
Henry Neville
06 June 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_160_winwood_1599_06_06_cecil
To the right Honorable Sir Ro: Cicyll Kingt principal secretary to her Majesty at Court /
Right Hon: ble there could be no news more welcom unto me then that it pleased you to send me of her Majesty's gratiouse acceptation of my proceedings hitherto, wherein as I acknowledge also your honorable favor towards me in preparing her gratious conceit towards that which otherwise in it self scarce deserueth pardon, so doe I most humbly thank your Honor for communicating it so soon unto me & especially for the participation you vouchsafe to take of my Joy and comfort therein which gives me assurance of that I have always so much desired: I beseech you continue to patronise my poor credit with her Majesty & enable me as you have begun with your good directions unto which I doe & will refer what
soeuer has been or may be pleasing in my service. I sent your Honor lately Copies of my letter to Mr Villeroy, & of his answer to me. I thought not good to leave so but have made a gentle reply & yet such as shall urge him to a better answer the next time whereof I send your Honor a copy here enclosed, for all other matters I shall not need to trouble your Honor much at this time for Mr Edmonds comes so well instructed in all things that have passed here & namely in the points of my Negotiation that I should but disapoint your Honor and wrong him to make any other relation: This I may not omit to signifie that I have found him most frendly & willing not only to communicate really with me but to take much more paines for me then was fit for me to require of him whereof because I impute it wholely to your Honors commendation being otherwise of my self a meere stranger unto him: I humbly beseech your Honor to take knowledg thereof & let him know it is gratefull unto you. I beseech you Sir to be assured that I had no purpose any way to challeng you of any omission in that I was not aduertised of the news of Ireland which the King told me for I had even the same conceit of it which I finde now to be true, that Th'ambassador had taken up the news there upon the Exchange, But de bene esse I made that answer I wrote of, I beseech think that I shall take all you write me to be of fauor & what you write not to be forborne upon good respects This day were the obsequies of the King of Spaine performed & whereunto I was Inuited but excused my self that I was very willing to doe the King any Honor but in this action being ressigned wholly to the Honor of the King of Spaine, who dyed not in Amity but rather in hostillitie with her Majesty & his son continewing in the same terms it would very euill be
become me to be partaker of it, & besides my presence would but trouble the feast; for I thought the Spanish Ambassador would insist upon his Masters place & Honor & so would I upon the Queen my Mistris which might easely produce effects that would not be pleasing to this King: especial at such a time: my excuses were well taken, & I was offered a private place to see the solemnitie If I would: I accepted it for the Gent: of my Company, but indeed I went also disguised my self, & repented me of my paines as having never scene a poorer thing: The yong Prince Conté the D: Montpensier, & the D: of Nemours were the Mourners: The Bishop of Glascoe Ambass: r of Scotland was lately to visite me, together with another which beares the Title of Mr of the requests who is sent to assist him: The L: of Hume is yet in these parts & for any thing I can learne makes no great hast into Italie which should argue that my L: of Weames Intelligence is not well founded, yet I thought it my duty to write it being of that nature & to name my author upon whose credit I must lay it If it prooue otherwise: Here are diuers Englishe Gent: with seem weary of their Exile and euill entertainement among the Spaniards who seeke to have accesse unto me among the rest here is Charles Paget, & one Mr Tresham who was somtime a Gent: Pensioner: I beseech your Honor direct me whether I shall give accesse unto them to make any use of them or how I shall gouerne my self towards them, & so referring the report of all other particularities here, unto this bearer Mr Edmonds I most Humbly take my leave From Paris the 6 th of June 1599
Your Honors most humbly to be Commanded
Henry Neville
07 June 1599
Henry Neville to Julius Caesar
ID: letter_112
Sir. your lre of the 20th of May came to my hands the thyrd of June. I have bene careful to return to your demand the best satisfaction I could procure, and have not spared both to search the story which particularly doth sett down the proceedings of the ligne, and to consult with those who now remain in Paris, whom I hold not to be ignorant in a cause of that quality, in there own Common wealth. But to deal plainely with you that which I find doth not satisfy me, and therefore I assure my self can give you no certain direction in those points wherein you desire to be resolved. Only this is delivered by the story, that anno 89. the town of Marseilles revolted from the king, mense Januarij, and that it returned to the obedience of this king. anno 96. 17o februarij. The king is removed many leagues from this town, pretending to iorney to Blois. and to my knowledge there is not at this present any one of the Counsell here, by whom otherwise I might receive a more particular informacõn At my next writing or going to the Court I will not forget to enquyre of Monsr. de Villeroy of those poynts who I think is best able to instruct me therein. And so I heartily bid you farewell. from Paris. the 7th. June. Your very louing friend. Henry Neville.
15 June 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_008
Right honorable, Paris, 15th June 1599. O.S. It may please you to remember, that at one of the last times I waited upon you, I desired to understand as much of her Majesty's General intentions as she would be pleased to think me worthy to be trusted with; to the end I matter of the peace with Spain; wherein I am bold to say it is very sit I should understand her Majesty's intention and purpose in generality, whether she be desirous to make peace or nay; for if she be not, then will it be sit to enlarge and assure her trade in other places as much as may be, and namely in this kingdom; it will be sit also to resolve how the states of the united provinces shall be enabled to subsist, either by her means alone, or by the help of others: and lastly, it will be necessary to draw as much assistance from hence, at least in the repayment of the money due, as may be gotten. All these things are fittest to be negotiated here, while matters are in suspense; and if I knew her Majesty's intention that way, I would not doubt but to take apt time, not only to discover how they are affected here, but to draw some offers from them, and that tanquam aliud agens; and so it should come of them, and not of me, which were the best way of negotiating. I make no question, whatsoever they pretend, that they are unwilling this peace should proceed, at least till the matter of the Marquisate be determined; while this depends therefore will be the fittest time to draw conditions of advantage from them: for if either we had actually broken off the treaty, and engaged our selves into the war; or if they were out of doubt of recovering the Marquisate, they would soon leave us to our selves. I am of opinion, that to be assured that this war should be continued three or four years against Spain, while they might recover themselves in state to stand alone, they might be drawn, first, to repay the Queen the money they owe her, by a yearly payment of 300000 crowns, or some such sum: secondly, to make any straight league defensive with her, that she would require: thirdly, to establish a free trade and intercourse for her subjects into these parts, in any reasonable sort: fourthly, to assist in secret manner the states, as the Queen shall think necessary. All which would be best negotiated before they did too plainly discover her Majesty's intention. On the other side, if her Majesty be desirous to make a peace, under pretence that she would do nothing in so important a matter, without the advice of her good brother and ally, and without due regard unto the common good of her confederates, the King's mind might be felt how he stands affected to it; what conditions he would advice to be insisted upon, both as touching our selves, and especially touching the states, if they join in the peace; and if not, then what he would think fittest to be done, either by their common authority to over-rule them to accept the peace, or otherwise, by common means to maintain them; and how far he would engage himself therein. Withal, before he know too much of the Queen's mind therein, this matter of the trade of our merchants, would be established with as great advantage and freedom from new exactions, as might be obtained in virtue of former treaties, or otherwise of favor; which is one of the chiefest, and most probable fruits, her Majesty shall reap of her great charges here. And for the money due by him to her Majesty, some certain course would be likewise urged for repayment in time, (since ready payment cannot be had) if her Majesty's mind were understood before-hand what I should demand or accept; for otherwise to write of every particular, and expect the answer, will but prolong the time till the opportunity be past; either by the finishing of our treaty with Spain, or by his clearing the matter of the Marquisate. As in this particular, so in others, I could show like reason why it should be necessary for me to understand the General purpose of her Majesty in those matters, whereof I am to negotiate any part or circumstance; but I will only conclude that point with this, that I being taken into the work, and having a part of the building committed unto me, if I be not acquainted with the architect's design and plot of the whole, I may the sooner miss of the proportion and uniformity that were sit. This I have made bold to write unto your honor now at a time of leisure, when I had no great matter to trouble you with; and finding this Messenger otherwise ready to depart, it may please you to consider of it as you see cause; and howsoever you judge otherwise, I beseech you to excuse my boldness. The King is now at Orleans, gone thither of purpose, as it is said, to establish Monsieur d'Entragues in that government; it seems thereby that the composition is already made about his daughter, and that this is the first effect of it. The voyage of Blois is yet very uncertain, I have sent one of purpose to the court to bring me as much certainty, both of that and other matters, as he can learn. I wrote also to the Duke of Bouillon, praying him to deal privately with the King about her Majesty's money; and likewise to monsieur de Villeroy, to know when the King's counsel will repair unto the court, and where the King will settle, that I might attend him to pursue the matter my self. The court of parliament made an arrest upon Saturday last, to suspend the execution of the King's edict in favor of the religion, till those of Rochelle had received the mass. They of the religion beyond loyre, make some difficulty likewise to accept it, pretending that it is minced, and pared, since it was first accorded at Nantes. In sum, I perceive there is great animosity on both sides, and it seems they are not yet grown wise by their long miseries, especially the popish side, who cannot dissemble their hatred. Since my coming hither, the deputies of the assembly at Châtellerault have been long in this town, but never offered any communication with me, not so much as an ordinary visitation: and for my part I thought it not sit to offer it them. The Duke of Bouillon likewise hath seemed to avoid me as it were of purpose, insomuch as he disappointed two assignations he had given me of meeting at his own lodging, and one at mine; besides his putting me off at the court; all which I guess he hath done, fearing the King might conceive some jealousy of his communication with me but by this means, he and I never met, but upon the high-way between Paris and Fontainebleau. I did therefore write unto him the rather, to discover more thoroughly what affection he bears her Majesty, and what foundation I might make of him. Touching the Prince of Condé, I suspect the matter stands not with him as your honor seemed to conceive. It is a common wish here that the King would marry, to have children, to take away all scruples; which argueth that there is a scruple made; besides I hear that the Prince of Conti refused to assist at the King of Spain's funerals, because he would not give the other place: the King himself likewise hath of late made no great demonstration towards him. For both these respects I judge the state of France in a miserable case, if God call this King, for it seems there is a farther judgment hanging upon them. There is no certain advertisement yet come of the Archduke's embarkation. Only it comes confirmed from many places that he was to embark the 5th of this month, and was expected at Milan the 15th. The provisions are already made in Burgundy for the troops which came down with him, but he himself is thought will take the way of Tyrol, for the commodity of the coaches. It is delivered here from good hands, that the King of Spain's assignation unto the Archduke, is of 250000 crowns a month; for the maintenance of the wars till the end of December next. Many conjecture, that the Archduke is in the mean time to assure his estate, either by peace, or success in war; and that the King of Spain will not charge himself any further with the defence of those countries. But in my poor opinion, Spain hath reserved too great an interest in them, and too great a possibility of reverting, to abandon the care of them so soon, and so lightly. I understand, that there is a great breach grown between the Pope, and the constable of castile governor of Milan, for encroaching upon the Archbishop's jurisdiction there; and that the Pope hath personally cited the governor to appear at Rome about it. Otwell Smythe a merchant residing at Rouen, well known as I suppose to your honor, was lately at Nantes: where I gave him instructions to learn what he could of the Spanish preparations; and likewise of the corn already carried, or intended to be carried into Spain. For the first, he saith, he spake with a French merchant very lately come out of Spain, who had traveled 150 leagues along the coast there: who affirms, that the preparations are to the number of 150 sail of ships, whereof 12 galleons, between 8 and 900 tuns apiece; that the common speech is, that after they have fought with the Hollanders and beaten them, (whereof they make no doubt) they are to go presently for Ireland. This advertisement, although I see no reason to credit, yet I thought not good altogether to contemn it, and thereupon went this day to monsieur de Bellièvre; who assures me, he neither understands, nor believes any such thing; and that the King is advertised altogether otherwise: that it is thought rather, they will not dare to meet the Hollanders; for besides the galleons, all the rest are ships of small burden and strength, being taken up as he could get them; and the most of them French ships, whereof he told me there were not able above five to render any fight. For the matter of corn, they do likewise vary: Otwell Smythe affirming by his intelligence, that there is such plenty brought thither, as it bears no price; and the other maintaining that there is exceeding scarcity there. While I was with monsieur de believre this day, there came in the Pope's Nuncio Bishop of Modena, between whom and me there passed no manner of compliments; but by that occasion I broke off with Monsieur de Bellièvre sooner than I would; only he promised me, that if he received any further advertisement of those points we had talked of, he would forthwith acquaint me with it, or any thing els that might concern the Queen my Mistress; acknowledging the King's great obligation to her, and the common interest that each had in the other's well doing. Of the siege of Bommel he told me assuredly it was withdrawn, but told me they had received but very little certainty from thence of late. He said further, he had received this day advertisements, that the German princes were entered with forces into Cleves, with a purpose to dislodge the Spanish garrisons that were left there. I send your honor here enclosed, a letter received lately from Mr. Lock. Mr. Edmonds I suppose hath advertised you of the stay of monsieur le grand's journey, and that monsieur le motte fenelon was appointed for that service; since, I hear he likewise excuses himself, by reason of his age and weakness: but thereof I shall learn more at the return of him I sent to the court. I send your honor likewise herewith, two letters I received from Charles Paget and Tresham, which I could not well avoid to receive; it may please your honor either to take knowledge of them, or suppress them, as you please. Touching the 20000 crowns, I doubt not but Mr. Edmonds hath advertised you what their answer is, viz. That it shall be ready, whensoever the bonds be sent over hither. I am in hope very shortly to hear from your honor how I shall further proceed in the matters I have written of. And so, & c. Your honor's, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
21 June 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_009
Right honorable, Paris, 21th June 1599. O. S. THIS bearer Coombes offering himself so opportunely unto me, though I were not fully ready for a dispatch, yet I would not let him pass without a word or two, to let your honor understand that I have received your letter of the 9th of this month, the answer whereof I refer till the coming of your dispatch which you promise therein, for my full direction in those matters I have written of. The King came to this town upon Sunday last, and goeth not away till Saturday or Monday; I have made means to have access unto him, but I have yet no answer, and I fear I shall scarce obtain it, because he is here only for his pleasure. He dined the first day he came at Monsieur D'Entragues's house, and this day he feasts all that company at the Tuileries. I have sought to speak with monsieur Villeroy, but he hath shunned me as it seem of purpose; for yesterday after I sent him word of my coming, he went to his house at Conflans within a league of this town, where he pretends to take physic, and will give access to no man. But I have written to him, to put him in mind, that this were a very sit time to begin to consult of giving me satisfaction in the matter I have proposed, seeing the King is in the town, and the principal of the counsel about him, and namely, those of the finances, with whom he must chiefly advice in a matter of that quality. At lest I prayed them, if their leisure served them not to consult of it now, to take order to make all searches and verifications that were requisite; that when I came to treat with the King's counsel of that hereafter, I may not be put off upon any such matter, that can be dispatched no where but here. I will send again to morrow unto him, and if I can by any means, I will speak with him my self. The King's journey to Blois is now resolved, and he appoints to be there upon the first or second of July, where I purpose also to meet him; and hope in this mean time to receive your honor's full direction how I shall proceed in all things, and namely, touching the contents of my last letter sent by Peter Brown. I hear the Archduke and the Infanta are arrived in Italy; and it is thought he will make more haste than he first intended, being thereunto provoked by many messages from the Low Countries, which seem to need his presence very much: by reason of the great dissensions among the principal commanders there, and the discontentment of the Spaniards; who return daily homeward through France in great numbers, saying, they will serve no man but their King. The plague is exceeding great in Spain, not only in Lisbon, which is wholly desolated by it, but in many other parts of Spain, as namely in Aragon and Catalonia. It is commonly believed here, and that by the King's counsel, that the Spaniards are not able to issue out to fight with the States'navy, but keep their fleet within the harbor of Ferrol, and other places, where they have fortified themselves. By my next, your honor shall understand some matters of importance. In the mean time, beseeching your honor I may be informed what customs and impositions have been raised upon foreign merchants in England; and namely upon the French, since the year 1572: or what restraints have been made for bringing thither the commodities of this country; which will be material for me to know, when I shall treat with the counsel here; I humbly take my leave. Your honor's, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
27 June 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_010
Right honorable, Paris 27th June 1599. O. S. I have heretofore signified unto your honor, that Charles Paget, and one Tresham, had desired access unto me, and I have sent you a letter from Paget unto me, and from th'other unto your honor, whereby you may perceive what their desire is. I have sought since, to inform myself, as much as I might, concerning their carriage in former times, and the cause of their retiring hither; and I find that there hath grown great dissension, between our papists abroad, and that they have been divided into two factions, the one depending upon the Jesuits, whereof Parsons is now the head, whose courses have been violent to seek and wish the overthrow of the present estate, by conquest, or any other means; the other consisting chiefly of the laymen and gentlemen which are abroad, whereof Charles Paget hath been the chief; who could not be brought, as they pretend, to consent, or concur, to the invasion and conquest of our kingdom by a foreign Prince. This division began amongst them, soon after the death of the Queen of Scots, upon whom they did all concur while she lived; but since her death, could never agree upon any one course, either of conquest or proposed title. And this contention hath proceeded unto great heat between them, insomuch as either side hath labored to supplant and disgrace the other; but especially of late, since the title of the Infanta of Spain hath been set on foot, according to the books written by Parsons under one Doleman's name. For the Jesuit's side promoting that title by all means, and taking a violent course to urge all Englishmen either in Spain, or Rome, or where else they may prevail with them, to subscribe thereunto; Paget and his side have directly opposed themselves, both by word and writing, as I am informed; and they are so divided thereupon, as there is an extreme hatred grown between them: insomuch, as these men do openly inveigh against Parsons and his adherents, as men seditious and factious, full of treachery, and without conscience. And being questioned with, by such as I appointed to confer with them, to know, what service they would, or could do to her Majesty, to cancel their former faults; they propose this as the chief and principal, that they shall be able so to discover these practices, and decipher not only to her Majesty, but to the papists of England, (who now through ignorance of their intentions, believe too much upon them ,) as should work a General dislike and detestation of them, and take away that credit which now they have, and daily employ, to the danger of her Majesty's estate. Being urged to give some present taste of their loyal affection to her Majesty, which they so greatly pretend, thereby the better to incline her Majesty to some compassion or regard of them; they only discover thus much in generality, that there are great numbers of jesuits and priests now in England, and one of them says, at the least 600, which have their diet and maintenance in certain houses by turn. Their ordinary way of repair thither, is through Scotland, and so into the north parts. They also accuse some officers of the ports, and namely, those of Gravesend, for suffering too free passage out of England; whence there come daily young men over, which are presently conveyed to the colleges at Douay, or Rome, and from thence some of them against their wills, into Spain; and many forced to profess themselves of some order or other, when they meant it not. They also think, that this subscription beforementioned, is laboured in England, by those jesuits and priests that are there. But being pressed to some more particular discovery, their answer is, they will reserve that, till they see what hope there is of obtaining their suit: and Paget says, he had almost been undone by some advertisements he wrote over out of the low countries, which makes him very wary not to bereave himself of all means of living on this side the sea with safety, till he may be assured of a safe retreat there. There is also in this town, one Cecil a Priest, who professes the same intention and desire with them; and the like they affirm to be in almost all the English gentlemen in the Low-Countries, except Sir William Stanley, and Owen, and some 3 or 4 more. All this I thought sit to advertise, and although I am not worthy, nor intend to presume to give any advice in the matter, yet I will be bold to propose unto your honor's consideration, these three points. First, whether it may not advantage her Majesty's affairs, and be without prejudice to her; by retiring of two or three of them, to make trial of their true meaning, and of the service they are able to do her Majesty, that way which they pretend, or otherwise by any discovery; considering, that when they are drawn home, they will be engaged and enforced to keep their credit there, and will not dare to double with you, for here will be no place for them. And I see there are in this country, none more forward in observance to this King, than such as had most to do with Spain during the league, having made themselves irreconcilable, as they conceive, unto that side; which reason may likewise prevail in these fugitives of ours. Secondly, whether it be not convenient, that such priests or notorious recusants as shall be hereafter apprehended, be severely examined, whether they have not solicited others, or been solicited themselves, to subscribe to that title of the Infanta. And lastly, whether it will not be sit, when you shall come to treat with the Archduke, to insist upon an article, of the Infanta's resignation of any pretended title; according to the example practised in the + treaty with the Scottish Queen, in the beginning of her Majesty's reign. Which if she refuse, will more discover the certainty of these informations, and if she assent unto it, will both dissolve the plot intended, and give satisfaction to some who have taken too hot an alarm of it, and to prevent it, have almost precipitated themselves into dangerous counsels both to themselves and us; I mean. The King of Scotland, whereof I shall be able to certify you more, ere it be long. Howsoever her Majesty resolves of the rest, I beseech your honor to direct me how I shall carry my self towards these men; for I perceive they will continue to seek to have access unto me, and will look at length for some other answer then I have hitherto given them, which hath been only dilatory, that in the mean time I might understand her Majesty's full pleasure. For Tresham, I was bold after I had seen his letter, to send it to your honor, because he had not offended in so deep a degree, as some others, to my knowledge; and withal, seems to march with less cunning than the rest, and to stand upon no conditions but of humble submission and pardon. + I have been acquainted with a I. Dwufrmshmfd negotiation of the Lord of q, crauntu ogilby, from. The King of Scotland x. Erdo with c 100 the King of Spain, in the year 1598. There are points of great importance contained in it. And if your honor have not seen it, I think I shall be able to procure a copy of it. I humbly thank your honor for your promise of favor, if I should be occasioned to follow the King to Lyons; it would be a very extraordinary charge, and such as no Ambassador hath had since the Queen's time, and therefore I trust will find some consideration. And so, & c. Your honors, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
28 June 1599
Henry Neville to Thomas Windebank
ID: letter_128
Court. Sir. I have always assured my self of your love, & so I hope do you of mine. Therefore there shall need no complements between vs for confirmation of that whereof we are both otherwise so well assured. yet I must confess I was very glad and so shall always be, of your letters because it doth in a sort continue the use of your conference and good conversation wherein I have taken exceeding contentment. Therefore when your leisure serves, and fit opportunity is offered, I pray you discontinue not so welcome a kindness unto me. I take exceeding comfort in her majesty. gracious acceptation of my poor beginnings here: which proceeds of a most princely nature and disposition, to cover with her grace the weakness of a poor servant, who doth infinitely desire to serve her but hath many wants & imperfections to disable him, and can promise nothing but zeal and faithfulness. I must confess that this good encouragement doth greatly animate me in my former zeal & industry, which supplied & perfected by her princely direction will I trust produce some good effects of my service here. I have presented all your recommendacions you charged me with, & am requested to resalute you in all kindness. Thus desiring that both my wife and I may be remembered in all affection to mrs. windebanke & your daughters I conclude with my heartiest commendations unto your self & so leave you to the happy keeping of the almighty. from Paris this xxviijth of Iune 1599 st: vet: your assured friend to my power. Henry Neville. Sir. I fear I shall be driven to follow the king to Lyon, which will be a matter of excessive charge unto me. for things are so excessive deer that I can not escape any day I travel under xx mark, xvli & sometimes xxli. Mr. Secretary hath promised me that whatsoever favor hath at any time been afforded to any ambassador for carriage of his stuff or horse hire shall be yielded to me. you know we have been ever allowed our charge of transportation & horse hire till we come to the prince And I think it is the same reason if we be driven to follow him. for the five mark a day is for the diet only I beseech if you know what hath been the use in this case, or otherwise of any thing that may be to my favor, acquaint mine uncle killigrew & my cousin Savill with it.
29 June 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_011
Right honorable, Paris 29th June 1599. O. S. I send your honor herewith, a copy of the memorial delivered to the Pope on the part of this King, touching the Marquisate of Saluces; I am put in hope of that which was presented likewise of the Duke of Savoy's part. That matter is now almost dead in speech here, these men making themselves in a manner sure, that it will be adjudged and delivered them, in the end of the term limited. But I had conference lately with. Monsieur de Bellièvre, who concurred in opinion with me, that it was of so great importance to the affairs of Spain in Italy, that it was not likely to be so lightly passed over. Surely, if the Duke set a good face upon it, this King will linger the matter, rather than attempt any thing by open force; for it is both contrary to his own humor, and the counsel of such as most govern him, to interrupt his peace and pleasure. At that conference,. Monsieur de Bellièvre entered into a large and serious discourse to me, how necessary it was, both for a 100. The Queen, z. Ubp. And 6. 120. The French King, that they should continue united in amity and common interests, and especially in the maintenance of. The united provinces; for that otherwyse, being abandoned, they must needs fall into the hands of. The King of Spain, which could not but prove in short time exceeding dangerous. I answered, that. The Queen had alone sustained these many years, the brunt of their defence, and of the impeaching of the ambitious deseigns of the King of Spain; and that this honor could not be denied her, that she alone had been the buckler of Christendom against his intended monarchy; but that she might now very well challenge some liberty of ease and rest unto her self, and put over the burden to some other princes, who had rested themselves, and gathered rest and vigor during her travails; and by her assistance, were now grown in state able to bear it. He confessed it to be true, and seemed to blame their carelessness; but it was not enough, he said, to begin well, except she did continue: and that otherwise, the fruit of all that had been done, would be lost, at least for the time to come. I said, that in generality, I was sure the counsels and resolutions of the Queen would be (as they had been ever) wise, and honorable; but for the particularity, I could not answer what she was resolved to do; only I thought she would not respect her own good alone, but would have a due regard unto the good of her confederates, as far forth, as her honor and safety would permit. The Master of Gray hath been twice with me since my coming hither, of whom I must be bold to write that I received no great satisfaction any way; I take him to be hollow and venal, and his own words seem to import no less; for he said, he was free, and owed no respect or service to any Prince, further than they should give him cause. His advertisements are surely but mean, and he seems to be very credulous to receive and believe them, without any great examinations. I am sure he delivered some unto me that were both untrue, and utterly improbable. If your honor entertain any intelligence with him, you shall better discover him than I; but for any thing I have seen in him, I would not think him a man worthy to lose much upon. Th'arrest of this court of parliament, to stay the execution of the edict, (whereof I wrote to your honor in any letter by Peter Browne) is said not to have been definitively pronounced, but only resolved upon, and since stayed by the King's authority. But I believe rather the former report, because when I used some means to the greffier to have a copy of the arrest, he did not deny that there was any such, but said he durst not give any copy of it. I wrote unto monsieur de Villeroy, as I signified unto your honor, and likewise unto the Duke of Bouillon, when the King was at Orleans. I received good General words from monsieur de Villeroy, that he would employ his best means and credit, to procure the Queen's Majesty contentment, when the counsel should be assembled about the King. From the Duke of Bouillon I received this answer, that he had imparted my letter to the King, who had answered, that his estate was very needy, but that he would strain himself to surmount all difficulties to give her some contentment. The Duke is since gone to the baths of Pouges, and is not to return this month or six weeks. In perusing the copies of the King's bonds and contracts, I find there is a bond for 20000l. For the intertaynment of the 2000 soldiers in Picardy, for six months, and after those six months, I find by the contract, that the King was to pay them; but I understand, that they contioued here near 18 months, and at the Queen's charge all the while; so that I am to demand, if it be so, almost 40000l. More: I beseech your honor therefore, let me be perfectly informed how long they stay'd, and how much her Majesty's charge amounted to, for their whole intertainement; and likewise touching the charge of the forces sent over with my Lord Willoughby, and the 20000l. Disbursed by Sir Horatio Pallavicini, for the levying of the German army, in the year 1588; and the 30000l. Lent in the year 1587. I humbly pray to have some verification attested under your honor's hand, for I hope, that with importunity, I shall at last extort some reason from these men; and the more I am able to charge them with, the greater present or yearly satisfaction, they must in reason offer. The King is yet in this town, but tomorrow purposes to go towards Monceaux, from thence to Fontainebleau, and so to Orleans, where his counsel are appointed to meet him. But whether he will settle there, or go to Blois, is not yet certain, for he chaungeth his determination every day. I used what means I could, both by m. Villeroy, and otherwise, to have had audience, but could not obtain it, nor any of th'other ambassadors; the King pretending, that he came hither privately, to pass his time merely, and would not same effect; but he entreated me to have patience till the King came to Blois or Orleans, I used what means I could, both by M. Villeroy, and otherwise, to have had audience, but could not obtain it, nor any of th'other ambassadors; the King pretending, that he came hither privately, to pass his time merely, and would not therefore be troubled with affairs. But I wrote unto M. De Villeroy as I signified in my last, and spake with him afterwards at his house at Conflans, to the Orleans, geving me very good comfort, that somewhat would be done there for her Majesty's contentment. We had some speech of the peace with Spain, wherin I assured him I knew no more then I had already communicated unto the King, and him. I put him in mind of the promises the King had made to her Majesty by Mr. Edmonds, soon after your honor's return out of these parts: and told him, I I thought which way soever her Majesty resolved in the matter, she would not forget to claim and embrace those kind offers of the King's towards her. He said, I might boldly assure her Majesty, the King would perform whatsoever he had offered, and would ever make a difference between her friendship, and any other Prince's in the world. I said the King had made very good trial of the difference of the Queen's intentions, and those of other princes, and therefore I did not doubt, but he would discern and esteem of their friendship accordingly. We spake likewise of the matter of our merchants, and settling of a good intercourse between us; wherein he assured me I should find the King as forward, as I would desire. Your honor sees how they are now disposed, it may be they will not always be so, for I do not altogether impute it to good nature in them; but I think her Majesty may now make some good use of them, if she be so pleased. Touching the States'navy, Monsieur de Villeroy had received no intelligence at all, what they did, or where they were; but on the other side he assured me, there was no preparation to encounter them at sea. Of the Archduke's arrival in Italy, there is this only of certainty, that he is passed by Marseilles; for so much the Duke of Guise hath delivered, who came hither in post since his passage, but further monsieur de Villeroy hath not understood; yet there be particular men, that pretend to have letters of it out of Italy. The Duke of Mantua is lately arrived at the Spa, which is thought to be but a pretext of his coming, and that the true cause is to take the charge of the army at the Archduke's return. Yet I hear that the Marquis of Burgau, the cardinal andrea's brother, is likewise come down, and as it is conjectured, for the same purpose. The Spanish commanders have been at some dissension among themselves, insomuch as la berlotte was committed prisoner for two days, but is since delivered, and retired to a house he hath near Brussels. The ordinary advertisements hither do import, that the Spanish army is in great want of all things necessary, but especially of resolution, what to do, or attempt. There was a letter lately imparted unto me which came from Cologne, wherein, touching the attempt of the German princes, there are these words: les jesuits esperent que ces choses de allemaigne ne feront rien, mais j'spere le contraire, & que les cercles venans à faillir, ung autre Prince alleman sera à ce qui emporte. Some guess it is meant by the Landgrave of Hesse. The same letter makes mention, that the Spaniards have voluntarily retired their garrisons out of Rees, Rheinberg, and Gennep, thinking thereby to appease the germans, which are not so contented, but stand upon three other points. First, that they may be assured that the like insolency shall be no more committed. Secondly, that recompense be made for the damage which the subjects of the empire have sustained. Thirdly, that forasmuch as for want of satisfaction in time, the princes have been enforced both to assemble often, and finally to take arms, they may be resimboursed of such charges, as they have sustained for that cause. The voyage of monsieur de la motte fenelon into Spain is now concluded at last, and accepted by him, and he is to depart within 8 or 10 days. I have solicited monsieur de Villeroy touching Mr. Lock, who hath assured me he will perform effectually what he hath heretofore promised your honor by Mr. Edmonds. I understand the Duke of cleve hath lately married the Duke of lorraine's daughter. There happened upon Corpus Christi day last at Limoges, a matter which doth easily discover the passion and malice yet remaining in the popish side here, against the protestants. Certain priests themselves went into the Church in the night, and brake down some images, and (as they say) cast the sacrament about the Church. In the morning, the people assembling, a great exclamation was made by the priests of this outrage, and some principal men of the religion in that town, charged by name to be the doers of it. The people by and by grew in fury, and would have proceeded to the present execution of them; taking arms as I am informed for that purpose, and the other side arming themselves likewise for their defence. Monsieur de salignac, governor of the town arriving, and examining the matter, found that one of the religion was charged by name to have been an actor in it, who had been in his company all that night. Whereupon suspecting the matter, he caused some of the principal accusers to be severely examined, and namely one offered to depose, that he had seen this man there, whom monsieur de salignac knew to be absent; and threatening him with the torture, drew the confession from him of the whole practice; and that they had done it, to the intent to have moved the people to a sedition, and to have cut the throats of them of the religion. Hereupon some of them were apprehended, and some fled. What justice will be done hereupon is much expected. This matter will be disguised I am sure to your honor by the French Ambassador; but this is the truth of it, as I received it from Monsieur de Bellièvre, of whose sincerity I find more cause daily to believe, than in Monsieur de Villeroy's; who when I was with him at Conflans, denied that there was any such matter at all, and since hath sought to dignify it to me as much as he could, suppressing all that toucheth the priests. Your honor understandeth by Mr. Edmonds, that they require to have the Duke of Bouillon's and Monsieur de Sancy's bond for the 6000l. To be sent over hither, and that thereupon they will pay the money. It may be that if I obtain payment of any more, they will require the like; which I suppose her Majesty will not greatly stand upon, although in truth the King be bound by contract to pay the money in London. When the 6000l. Is paid, your honor I hope will direct me what course shall be taken, for the convaying or making it over. If any great sum be obtained, methinks the King might be urged to deliver it at Dieppe, and there some of the Queen's ships to be ready to transport it: and if some of it be in silver, there will be no great loss, and perhaps not so much as to make it over by exchange, besides the difficulty of returning any great sum from hence thither. I beseech your honor, if it be possible, that I may have answer of this and all my former letters within 15 days, for about that time I guess I may have audience. And so, & c. Your honor's, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
13 July 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_012
Right honorable, Orleans, 13th July 1599. O. S. I came to this town upon Saturday last, and upon Sunday, being the 8th of this month, I had audience, where I repeated unto the King, what I had proposed at my former audience, and what answer I had received, and told him in every respect, as I had before written to monsieur de Villeroy, that I thought that answer so cold, and to savour of so little respect towards the Queen my Mistress, considering her present occasions, which I had acquainted him with, and the sincerity of her affection, which he had so often made proof of; that to prevent the unkindness she might justly conceive of it, I was bold to suppress it for a time, and to desire monsieur de Villeroy, to deal with him to readvise of it, and to strain himself to give the Queen some better contentment. That monsieur de Villeroy had thereupon written unto me, that he had moved him in it, and was commanded to assure me, that as soon as his counsel came about him, he would advice seriously with them, of the means to give her Majesty some better satisfaction. That I was therefore now come to wait upon him for that cause, and to receive his answer, which I prayed might be such, as might give her Majesty argument of his assured affection towards her, and that she might have no cause to think her self too little regarded. And the rather to induce him thereunto, I alleged both those reasons, which I had before written to monsieur de Villeroy, and the Duke of Bouillon, and some other, which I will not trouble your honor to repeat. The King answered, that I had no reason to charge him with want of respect towards the Queen my Mistress; though he knew himself, and every man els would confess him to be the first King of Christendom, yet he had always professed himself to be her Servant, and her Soldier, with many words to that purpose. I desired him not to conceive me to mean any want of personal respect towards her Majesty, for I did both remember, and had advertised her of those, and other speeches, he had before used unto me to her honor: but my meaning was, to note a want of respect and regard to her estate and present occasions, in not seeking to render her at least some part of those means, she had need to use now for her own defence, seeing the cause of her being disfurnished of them, was only her care to preserve him. He said, he did confess that he had received great pleasures of her, and in requital thereof, would employ himself, and the forces of his whole kingdom in her defence, if she had need; but more could not be had of a man than was in his power, and for money he had utterly none, and repeated it three times. I told him it would be a strange answer to proceed from a King of France, who though he commanded not a country so flourishing and wealthy as sometimes it had been, yet was never so low, but upon so just an occasion as this was, he would be able to find so much, as would serve to give her Majesty some reasonable contentment, and enable her to expect his better convenience, for the discharge of the rest. He began to protest he could not do it this year, but the next he hoped he should be better able, until which time he prayed her Majesty to have patience. I told him this answer would be found so strange, after so long expectation, and promise of better contentment, that I should scarce be believed in relating it; and therefore prayed, if he were resolved to give me no other, that it would please him to give it in writing, which he promised to do. After this speech so ended, I proposed again the maintenance of the intercourse between the two realm; and the confirmation of such liberties and privileges, as had been granted by his predecessors unto her majesties subjects, and namely, of the exemption du droict d'aubeine, granted by King Charles; which was a thing contrary to the custom of all other nations, and without any ground of reason, and served rather for a pretext to his officers, to extort by wrong and violence upon our merchants, than for any profit to him. He willed me to give a note to his counsel, and they should consider of it, and of the treaties and grants made by his predecessors; and willed me to assure my self, that in that, or any thing els which was in his power, he would be ever willing, to give her Majesty argument of his good affection. From this, he fell into questions of the state's fleet; I told him I understood nothing of it. He asked me also, how matters went in Ireland. I told him since the last occurrents I had acquainted him with, I had heard nothing, but that my Lord of Essex was gone to Limerick, a town almost in the middle of Ireland, which might be the occasion that advertisements came the slower from him. He wish'd the Queen had well composed those matters, and said, he feared she would find a difficult matter of it. I said, it might perhaps prove of more length than was hoped at the first, which would always enforce her to urge repayment of her money at his hands, but in the end I did not doubt, but God would give good success to so good a cause. He said, he had heard, that Tyrone would have accepted a peace, if your honor and my Lord of Essex, would have become pledges for the observing of it. I told him, there was never any such thing spoken of, and though there had been any such demand made by him, it had not been sit nor honorable for her Majesty, that the assurance of her word or promise, should depend upon the credit of any other but her self. Then he asked me, if in the articles of the treaty between the Queen, and the King of Spain, she had not inserted one to this purpose, that he should free her from the war in Ireland. I told him, I thought he knew very well, that the treaty never came so far, as to talk of articles: he said coomans, as he passed this way had assured him, if the King of Spain would assent to those articles he carried with him, the peace was made. I told him, the Queen had communicated unto him, both by his own Ambassador, and by me, as much as had passed in that matter, which I hoped he would give more credit to, than to cooman's report, for he might well speak of their resolution, but he could not speak of ours. Monsieur de Villeroy, who was present at all my audience, said he thought it never came to conditions. Of the Marquisate of Saluces, I find the King to speak more doubtfully than he did before, as if he feared Spain would intermeddle; the like in dark speeches I received from some of his counsel. He told me, the Pope had been earnest to prolong the term agayn, but that he was not determined to grant it, but would be at Lyons about six weeks hence, to be nearer unto his business there. And so this audience passed, saving, that when I saw no hope of obtaining any more, I prayed him, that the 20000 crowns, which he had promised and assigned already, might be paid out of hand. To which he answered, he knew not how soon it would be ready, but he had made good assignations for it, and he would speak with his financiers about it, and then I should have answer when it should be paid. The next day I went to monsieur de Villeroy, and told him, I was sorry to find my travails so unfortunate, that instead of advancing my Mistress's service, by my solicitation, I found it rather recoiled, and the King grown colder, than the last time I moved him, or than he had given me hope of by his letters. He very hotly replied, that he had written nothing, that might be construed to imply more than the King had now said, that he had written in French, and knew well what it was. I was not disposed to take the matter so hotly, but answered only, that he knew very well when I took exception to the King's first answer, because it seemed to promise payment of no more this year, but of the 20000 crowns, and made my complaint thereof unto him; he made me answer, that he had moved the King in it, and was commanded to assure me, that when the counsel came together, the King would consult with them how to give her Majesty better satisfaction; whereas now I found him so far from any resolution of paying more, that methought he began to make the payment of the 20000 crowns very uncertain, which was promised and assigned, before my coming, and which her Majesty looked for ere this time; and that I thought her Majesty deserved to be better regarded. He told me, I seemed to insist much in my speech with the King, upon that point of want of respect towards the Queen, and if I had repeated it a little more, I might perhaps have been answered little to my contentment. To that I answered, I had patience to bear whatsoever the King should say, and would refer it to my Mistress to interpret, but I would not leave for that, to deliver whatsoever she should command: and that for mine own part, I must needs say again, that I thought it an argument of small respect, that a King, who could find the means to give away in pure gift, this last year, 15 or 1600000 crowns, should plead disability to pay the Queen any thing, in so great occasions as he knew she had: that I was not to interpret her conceptions further then she was pleased to impart unto me, but that I saw she had great cause to be much discontented with it; and therefore as I had desired the King, and as he had promised me, I prayed him I might have the answer in writing. He told me, it was not the fashion to give answer in writing, but to those things which were presented in writing, and I urging the King's promise, he said he heard it not, (tho'the King had twice promised it in his presence) and that he had no such commandment: thereupon I told him, rather then fail, he should have the proposition in writing. We fell after to talk of the other point of the treaties, and droict d'aubeine, wherein I desired, that the King would make it appear, that he did acknowledge the service her Majesty's subjects had done him, and that he thought them no less worthy of his favor, than some other nations, to whom he had lately granted the same of his free good will, not being tied unto it by any lately granted the same of his free good will, not being tied unto it by any treaty of his predecessors; whereas we had it granted directly by the treaty of Blois. He answered, that we had not performed that treaty on our parts, and alleged the words of the treaty, that there should be a staple or fondique established, of our merchandise in France, as was heretofore at Antwerp and Bruges; and when that was done, we might claim the exemption required, and not before. I told him, the exemption was granted (as appeared by the words of the treaty) in favor of the traffic, which was intended to be established between the two nations, to work a good communication and amicable disposition between them, whereupon a firm and durable friendship might be grounded between the princes; and therefore, to stand upon the fondique, which was but a circumstance, and accorded rather in our favor, than for any benefit to them, argued, that they did but seek evasions, from giving her Majesty or her subjects contentment in any kind, which was far from that which she has cause to expect. And as for the matter of the fondique or staple, I told him it was a thing that began to be misliked in England, and was thought to be prejudicial to the state, to make any more corporations or fraternities, which might be; and therefore wished, if he were as desirous to entertain good intercourse between the two realm, as he had heretofore seemed to be; not to frustrate so good an intention, upon a circumstance so little material unto them, but to refer it to her majesties choice. He said, the treaty did directly mention it, and though we cared not for it, they did require it; yet if her Majesty would signify unto the King, that she desired to have that point forborne, as being prejudicial to her state, he thought there might be some conference upon these points and the whole treaty; which the King was willing to confirm, either in that kind, or in any more straight sort, that should be thought sit for the subjects of both realm, and offered me to treat whensoever I had commission. I told him, the intention of that treaty, for that which concerns the intercourse, was chiefly to establish the traffic of our English commodities in France, and all the conditions appointed to be considered of by especial commissioners, run that way; and therefore it was sit it should be treated of in England; where the merchants, whom it chiefly concerned, might be at hand to declare, what they required to be provided for. He said, there was much to be required likewise on the part of their merchants; I said, all that concerned them, was common to us, as well as to them, and there was much in that treaty besides, that particularly belonged to our side: he said, we might treat of that which concerned us there, and of the other here; I said, that were in vain, for one labor might serve both. That matter ended, we came to speak of the third point of my former proposition; wherein I found my self not satisfied, because the whole proposition seem to be limited, to the carrying out of the commodities there mentioned hors de son royaume, which extends not to such as should be bought in lorraine parts, and carried directly to our enemies, without ever coming into France; for that which was never in France, cannot be said to be carried out of France. We debated this matter a while, not without some heat, and words I might justly have excepted to on his part: but I told him resolutely, I would not so accept it, and I did not doubt to be advowed in it: then at last he was contented to alter it, and hath promised to send it me so altered. He seemed to complain, that notwithstanding the counsel in England had assented unto, and signed the regulation touching depredations, your honor had since refused to reduce it into a treaty, or to execute it. I could answer nothing particularly in this point, because I had received no letters from your honor since the Ambassador's audience, the last I had received being of the 9th of June; but in generality I told him, (as I had done once before) that I thought her Majesty had reason to forbear to proceed any further in it, till she saw more forwardness on their part to answer her: for she had both established a commission, which had already done justice in these causes, and made since a proclamation, for the freedom of their trade, as themselves desired; whereas they had neither appointed commissioners, to whom her Majesty's subjects might resort, for remedy in their wrongs, which were many and great; nor yet made any of those proclamations and prohibitions, which on their part were to be made, for her Majesty's service. He said, your honor had not so answered; but if the Queen insisted upon that, he would cause the commission to be dispatched out of hand, and the proclamations to be likewise made, in such sort as it was agreed upon. This is the effect of our conference at this time; I have since delivered a sum of my proposition in writing, but shall not receive answer, I doubt, till I come to Blois; for the counsel removes thither to morrow, and the King likewise, after a step to Malesherbes, will repair thither towards the end of the week. In the mean time, I thought good to send this dispatch, that you may see what to trust to from hence, and because I would not have the Ambassador there, advertised what hath passed here, before your honor. And I assure you I found it likewise in the manner. What to impute it to I know not, unless they should have discovered some more coldness in the demand there, then I have used here. Some have underhand let me know, that the King doth assure himself that the Queen will make peace, and therefore makes no haste to pay her any thing; and again I learn, that monsieur de Villeroy took in some fault the letter I wrote him, upon the receipt of the King's first answer, whereof I sent your honor a copy; I leave all to your honor to judge Bellièvre; who used me with good respect, and confessed it was very reasonable the King should make her some good satisfaction, but doubted that at this time he was not able. Monsieur de Rosny asked me, what would content the Queen the next year: I said I had no commission to divide the debt, but generally to demand the restitution; but I thought the Queen would not be too rigorous in her demand, but would be content to accept some competent some, so she might receive the rest in reasonable time after. He seemed to profess much affection to her Majesty, but the effects must discover his inclinations, whereof I cannot promise much, this being the first time I had speech with him. Since my coming hither, I understand that at o.194 Rochelle, there hath been stayed three englishmen, seeming by all circumstances to be men of the Church, and professing papistry. They pretended a purpose to go into England, and were found seased of certain letters to some in England, containing an advertisement, that the z w g t k l m clergy of m 173 Spain ----- had offered c 100 the King of Spain an extraordinary subsedy, to continue n 205 war against a 101 England: which 6. 120 the French King understanding, would first have had them brought q. W I w n g hither, but the fuy. B g h m w f o. Deputy of Rochelle persuaded him it were better they should be x. K w f d sent z. C b to the Queen, which I think will be done very shortly. If it be so, it may please you to think of examining them of the emq. I a u title of the t b I. O f d h f Infanta, whereof I wrote lately. Of the King's marriage I know not what to write; in speech he seems to resolve to marry, and the Princess of Florence is in every bodies mouth: but in his particular, I verily believe he hath no inclination to leave this free life he now leads; and withal, I cannot learn that there hath yet been any direct motion made at Florence on his part. On the other side, I hear that the emperor, (belike to crosse the King's purpose in that alliance ,) is now grown very earnest in the pursuit of that Princess, which he had once seemed to have given over. The Archduke arrived at Genoa about the 15th of the last month after this account, and went thence the 26th towards Milan, where he purposed to stay but eight days. He was visited by embassies from all parts of Italy; and the King told me, the Pope had sent a legate to him, which was very extraordinary, and not used to be done to any, under the degree of a King. But I spake with a gentleman who was at Genoa till he departed, who said, there was a legate looked for there, but there came none. He doth also assure me, that he brought no soldiers with him at all, but only his ordinary train, and that not great. He takes the way of Germany, by reason that the plague is so hot in Piedmont; which is also said to be so great in Spain, that the King was fain to return from Barcelona by sea into Valencia, to the Marquis of Denia's house, who now possesses him wholly, and draws from him for himself and his friends, exceeding great gifts, and namely, the bishopric of Toledo for a nephew of his. The harvest is exceeding good this year in Spain, and the plenty as great both of corn and wine, as has been these 20 years; the like is generally expected in this country. There happened a great disaster upon Monday last in the forest of Bière, heard by Fontainebleau; either by lightning, or other mischance, the wood fell on fire, and hath burned, as I am informed, about 40000 acres of wood, to the loss at the least of 100 thousand crowns; one whole village is said to be burned, and Fontainebleau, both town and house, was hardly saved. It is said to burn yet, and no man knows when it will cease; for when men think it is quenched, it will run into the ground, and break out in some other place. Upon Sunday last the King healed a great many, both of Spaniards and others; and there went with him to the Church among others, the Duke of Guise; to whom it was observed that this people showed more true affection, than to the King himself; many thanking God for his good escape, and praying God to bless him, and diverse taking occasion by his sight, to revive the memory of his father. The princes of Germany keep their forces still together about Wesel, and treat of drawing recompense from the Spaniards of their damages and charges, but I think it will hardly come. In the mean while they lose much advantage of time, and make all men talk of their dullness and irresolution. Here is an Ambassador of the Duke of Württemberg, who came to compliment with me, and in discourse let fall so much unto me, as I perceive his Master would be very glad her Majesty would honor him with sending some gentleman unto him; and surely, Sir, in my poor judgment, the sending of some man of worth into those parts might be to good purpose, both to discover some designs, and to keep those princes in good devotion. Of the states fleet here is nothing known; it is thought they are gone to the islands, or unto the indies. I understand by their Agent they are victualed for a year, and that there is another fleet preparing, to be ready to succeed them in the action, against they return. The states have drawn little from hence this year; the last year they should have had 200000 crowns, but received but 100000; this year they were promised 300000 crowns, to supply the defect of the last, but have received yet but 50000. Touching collisford, of whom I made some motion in my first proposition; monsieur de Villeroy tells me he is avoided out of Calais, according to my desire. I dealt with him also about the seminary at Rheims, which I understood our fugitives were in hand to renew, and had gotten the clergy's consent thereunto. I prayed him to take order to impeach it, being contrary to the treaties that they should have any such receptacle here. I have moved him again of it, but he has done nothing in it, pretending the Archbishop of Rheims's sickness to have been such, as he was not in case to be troubled with any thing. In my last conference with him, perusing the treaty of Blois in his book, I found it to differ from my copy in some points. Indeed I cannot warrant the credit of mine, being taken not out of your honor's book, but out of a copy of my father-in-law's, which was not very perfect. Therefore I beseech you, if her Majesty's pleasure be that I shall deal any further in that matter, to let me have a true copy sent me of the treaty. The King went yesternight after supper to la faye, four or five leagues hence, with a purpose to hunt the stag, and as some think to see Fontainebleau, (and Paris perhaps) before his return, so sudden excursions we are here subject to. The counsel remain here some few days, but no man knows any certainty when or whether the next remove will be, though they speak of Blois. For my part I remain here partly to receive an answer to my proposition, but chiefly in hope to hear from your honor while I am here, lest I should have any occasion upon your letters to return hither, as soon as I come to Paris. I mentioned before, that monsieur de Villeroy told me, I answered not to one point of our conference as your honor had done; he did the like in some other points. I beseech you therefore consider, what disrepute, and what disadvantage it is to me in my negotiating, to want advertisements how things pass there. And so, & c. Your honor's, & c. HENRY NEVILLE. Proposition de l'ambassadeur d'angleterre faicte à messieurs du conseil du roy le 19 juillet 1599. S. N. COmme il a pleu à sa majesté, sur la proposition que je luy avois presentee de la part de la royne ma maistresse touchant le reimbursement des deniers, dont elle l'avoit accommodé durant les troubles de son royaume, de me faire respondre, qu'il commanderoit à son conseil d'adviser aux moiens qu'il auroit qu'il doibt recevoir en icelle, desia departiz, il feroit difficile de luy paier plus que le vingt mil escuz, prestez en l'an 1596, sur l'obligation de messieurs de vive instance, luy remonstrant les grandes occasions & necessitez de la royne, qui la contraignoient de l'en importuner à present, veu les grandes guerres qu'elle avoit sur la bras, tant en irelande qu'ailleurs; à laquelle mienne remonstrance il me respondit, que quand son conseil seroit aupres de luy, il adviseroit aux moyens de mieux faire pour le contentment de ma maistresse. C'est donc maintenant, puis que messieurs de son conseil sont tous assemblez aupres de luy, que je supplie tres humblement sa majesté, d'I adviser, & d'I pourvoir tellement, que la royne ma maistresse ayé occasion de se render contente de luy, & de continuer la mesme volenté & sincerité d'affection, qu'elle a souvent tesmoigné avoir en son endroict. Et pource que aux propos que le roy me tint dernierement, il me declara, bonne sum; je supplie treshumblement sa majesté, de m'esclaircir son intention la dessus; & combien c'est que la royne pourra faire estat de recevoir de luy l'année prochante, & à quel term. Et si en cas que le roy apres avoir consulté sur ce faict avec son conseil, trouve qu'il n'a pas le moien de luy render reimbursement de quelque notable sum pour le present, je le supplie & requiers au nom de la royne, d'accomplir le contract faict en l'an 1591, entre la royne & messieurs de beauvoir & de preaux, ses ambassadeurs & commissaires authorizes pour cest effect, & puis apres confirm par le roy, & verifié par la cour de parliament & chambre des contes, qui porte comme s'ensuit. Here followed the words of the contract. Duquel contract le roy ne se peut exempter, pourceque les dicts villes de Rouen & Havre de Grace sont à cest heure en sa puissance; estant raisonnable, qu'en l'une sort ou l'autre, il donne satisfaction à la royne, qui l'a secouru si à propos en son besoign. Outre ce, a fin que le roy scache que c'est qu'il a de payer, & la royne combien elle a de recevoir; je supplie humblement sa majesté, d'en faire verifier Et pourcequ'il est raisonnable & expedient, que nous sachions à quoy nous sums pour le regard des traictez entre ces deux royaumes; d'aucuns desquelz, (& singulierement, de celuy de l'an 1572, faict a Blois avec le roy charles le 9me) il s'est meu quelque doubt, s'il demeure en sa force ou non, comme n'ayant, esté confirmé dedans l'an apres la mort du feu roy; je supplie le la raison que dessus; qu'il luy plaise de declarer son intention à la royne, s'il dame royne.
14 July 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_013
Right honorable, Orleans 14. July 1599. O. S. Since the dispatch I sent away yesterday by Simons, I received these enclosed letters from Bayonne, which I send by the same Messenger which brought them me, being an English merchant called Jackson, who is returning homeward. I have nothing more to write than I advertised in my dispatch, but that I am deferred for mine answer to my proposition till the King come to Blois, which when it will be I know not; but the counsel is yet determined, to move thither upon Monday next. I am told, that besides the fire which happened in the forest de Bière, there is another great fire fallen out in Bourges, which hath burnt a Church and 20 houses; both are supposed to be by lightning. I have received letters from some merchants at Bayonne, that there are certain letters of mart granted out against them, and their goods, for some wrong done by our people at sea. I find it directly contrary to all our treaties, that any letters of mart should be granted but against the principal delinquents, and their goods and factors; and that, in casu manifeste denegationis justitiae, which I suppose hath not been on her Majesty's part; therefore I mean to deal with the counsel for the repeal, and stay of them. And so I humbly take my leave. Your honor's most humbly to be commanded, HENRY NEVILLE.
18 July 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_014
Right honorable, Orleans, 18th July 1599. O. S. I have this morning received your honor's of the 2d of July, together with Monsieur de Bouillon's and Sancy's bond for the 20000 crowns, and likewise the copies of Cardinal Andrea's letter, and the answer to it, and of the answer made to the hambourghers, for which I humbly thank you. By the same letters, I perceive her majesties purpose to insist upon the confirmation of the treaty of Blois, wherein I suppose you will find no great difficulty here, for monsieur de Villeroy seems very forward in it; and besides, I understand, as I have written heretofore unto your honor, that upon my first motion of it, it was proposed here in counsel, and a reed upon. And therefore, because in your last letter before this, it pleased your honor to command me to inform my self what was sit for us to require therein, wherein I conceived you meant, what was sit to be added or altered in it, I am bold to send you my poor conceit of it. First, whereas the exemption of the droict d'aubeine and some other points, seem to be conditional, and to depend upon the erection of a staple or fondic of our commodities in France, as was sometime at Antwerp and Bruges; for that I find by the merchants trading in these parts, that they are not desirous to have any such company or corporation established here, by reason of the chargeableness of it, and not being done, it may always minister them hear occasion of quarrel and cavil against their privileges: I do therefore wish, that all grants of privileges and immunities, therein accorded to our nation, may be absolute, and founded only upon the respect of the intercourse and amity between the two princes and realm, and upon no other condition. Secondly, if they insist still upon that point of the fondic or English house, I think it sit that her Majesty require free exercise of religion for her merchants, in such places, where those fondics shall be established. Thirdly, I wish that it be especially provided for in the treaty, that there shall be no letters of mart or reprisal executed either upon the land or in any port, but upon the sea only; for this is a point our merchants do especially fear, and therefore desire it may be prevented. Fourthly, that the taxes and impositions raised since the year 1572, may be put down; wherein her Majesty hath the advantage, for by that treaty, the King of France is barred from raising any new impositions upon our commodities, and the Queen left at liberty. Fifthly, that the King shall not suffer any college, or seminary of our English fugitives, to be erected, or continued here. Sixtly, that no bark or shallop of dunkirk, or other port under the enemies obedience, armed or provided for the war, may be suffered to have harbouring or retreat in the ports of this kingdom; which if it be performed, will take away that great liberty and boldness which they have used upon the narrow seas of late, to her majesties exceeding dishonor, and the damage of her subjects. To this would likewise be added some clause, touching the warranty of the sale of our clothe, kersey, bayes and cotton here, in such sort as it is made, wherein our merchants are most troubled, especially about the northern clothes, which I perceive is one of the chiefest commodities here: for the officers do continually pick quarrells to the false making of them, and threaten them with confiscation, and by that means daily draw money from the merchants, and if it be not especially provided for, is like in time to serve for a pretext to banish that kind of clothe wholly. Which besides the present prejudice, being uttered here in good quantity and to a good value, and not being vendible almost in any other place; may happily be a step and a precedent, to proceed further against the rest of our clothes upon like occasion; for in very deed, the merchants themselves confess, that all our clothes are made more faulty than heretofore. The way how to provide for this, the merchants which trade hither will best inform your honor, and what it is they desire in that point. For the third point, of executing letters of mart only at sea, I think it greatly for our advantage, because we are stronger than the French at sea, and therefore not so subject to reprisals there; and have more goods and commodities always in their country, than they have in ours, and thereby more in danger of seizure at home. And I do the rather mention it, because in my conference with Monsieur de Villeroy and Bellièvre, about the letters of mart granted against our nation to certain of Bayonne, whereof I wrote in my last; I found that they both inclined to that opinion, that it was not sit that merchants should be touched by such letters either at land, or in any port; and therefore they have promised me, when we come to Blois (where the Chancellor is already ,) that matter shall be conferred of, and order taken in it. I find them both to insist upon the other point, which I pressed upon that particular out of the treaties of 1559 at Cambrésis, and 1564. At Troyes, which are the latest that mention that matter; viz. That reprisals should be contra delinquentes, eorum bona factoresque, & hoc in casu manifestae denegationis justitiae: which they say is not equal, for a man may do a spoil at sea, which either may be nothing worth, or being of some worth, may perhaps never go to sea again, nor happily have any goods out of the realm wherein he dwells, whereupon restitution may be made; so that they seem to stand upon this, that letters of mart may be executed against any of the nation which doth the wrong, at sea, but not at land, or in any port; and that, after requisition of justice, and refusal of it by the Prince to whom the requisition was made. And this surely in my poor judgment, with some good explanation of the manner of the requisition, and a competent time to do justice in, and to make certificate of the proceeding to the Prince requiring justice, before which certificate, letters of mart should not be granted, would prove a very good and indifferent course for both nations. But howsoever, I thought it my duty to advertise your honor of this their opinion in time, because I verily believe it will be proposed unto you in the pursuit of this treaty; wherein I also suppose, you will find no difficulty on their part, to add that condition of the King's or Admiral's passport, to such ships as you intend shall pass free: and so to make the clause copulative, which is now disjunctive, either to flag or passport. As to the matter of the corn to be carried hence into Spain, although for this present year it is not like to come greatly in question, because the abundance in Spain is such as they shall not much need their neighbors; yet will it be very necessary to be thought of in other years, and to be provided for; wherein your honor shall find a direct precedent, in the treaty ‡ 1546 between King Henry the eighth and King francis the first of France, article the 2d, viz. Quod neuter dictorum principum, alterius regna vel dominia invadenti aut expugnanti, invadere vel expugnare conanti, auxilium, favorem, subsidium, naves, pecunias, gentes armorum, victualia, aut aliam assistentiam quamcunque publicè vel occultè, directè vel indirectè, dabit aut praestabit, nec à subditis suis dari vel praestari consentiet, aut permittet, sed realitèr & expressè renitetur, prohibebit, & efficaciter impediet. Which must needs be understood of furnishing victuals and other aid there mentioned, by way of marchandise, as well as otherwise: for it cannot be thought, that any subjects would furnish such things to another Prince, but upon sale, and for money; and so at the least must this King be bound to prohibit it, at such time as the Spaniards make any army to invade us; and it may be he will sooner condescend to make the treaty in those general terms, than particularly to name Spain, unless her Majesty be contented that he shall in his prohibitions name in like sort, both England and Spain, which perhaps will not be any thing to our prejudice, considering we are neither victualed nor furnished with arms or matters of that nature out of France; but especially if that clause be added, without the King's express licence, for of that we are always to hope more at the least at this King's hands, than our enemies. I must also advertise your honor, that at my last conference, I dealt with Monsieur de Villeroy, as I had likewise done before, to move the King to forbid the new erecting of the college of our seminary priests at Rheims, which I did upon information that it was very much laboured, and that the consent of the clergy of the town was already obtained. His answer was, that he had already by the King's command written to the Archbishop of Rheims about it, whose answer he expected very shortly. Likewise I dealt with him about the forbidding of the dunkerker's retrait into the ports of this realm, wherein he told me the King had already taken order: but what in particular he told me not, neither did I greatly press him, because I mean to learn the truth of it by some other means. Monsieur de la Mothe Fénelon is upon his departure for Spain; and monsieur de Villeroy hath assured me, that he hath recommended Mr. Lock unto him in such sort as your honor desired. I have written unto him where he shall the King hath prolonged the term for the Marquisate of Saluces, neither will Monsieur de Bellièvre acknowledge it, which makes me a little stagger; yet I am prone to believe it, because I heard it from one of good place very familiar in monsieur de Villeroy's house; and besides I hear the General of the cordelyers who treated it, departs very shortly towards Italy, well contented as it is supposed. As soon as I receive answer to my written proposition I sent you by simons, I will send it with such other advertised as shall occurre in the mean time. And so, & c. Your honor's, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
28 July 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_015
Right honorable, Blois 28th July 1599. O. S. I understand by many of my good friends, and especially by mine uncle Killigrew, the continuance of your favor towards me, in accepting my poor service and endeavours here, that I hold my self tied thereby as by many other favors, to render both the testimony and effect of a dutiful and thankful heart. I beseech your honor therefore, to accept these few lines as a gage and witness of my most loya'l and faithful affection towards you, and to assure your self always of my earnest desire and readiness to do you service; whereunto the more to engage my self, I beseech your honor to give me leave to be a suitor to you in the behalf of a friend of mine, whom I entreated to come over with me in the place of my Secretary, who is otherwise like for his good will to me, to sustain great prejudice in his absence; his name is Ralph Winwood, and his case is this; he is tenant to the Queen of the manor of Denshanger, which is annexed to the honor of Grafton, in the county of Northampton, which (understanding of the sales) he was desirous before his coming over with me, to have purchased it of her Majesty; and to that purpose went to Mr. Sollicitor to confer with him of it, who assured him that it was not within the commission, as being parcel of an honor. Yet since he understands the same is passed in a book, to the use of one Kettering receiver of Northamptonshire; whereby he is greatly disappointed, and his whole estate greatly interested. My humble suit unto your honor is, that (forasmuch as he was fully determined to have bought it himself, and was only hindered by the error of Mr. Sollicitor, and by his so speedy coming away in my company ,) it would please you to be a means, that for some reasonable consideration to be given to him that hath passed it, the purchase may be made over unto him; which I shall take no less thankfully, than if the favor were done to my self, and shall greatly acknowledge my obligations increased thereby towards your honor. Besides the matter contained in my dispatch, I have nothing more to write, but that the 20000 crowns for any thing I can find, will not be paid till towards Michaelmas, although Rosny assured Mr. Edmonds they should be ready as soon as the obligation was brought, which I told him I now had, so little trust there is in their promises. The King rode post yesterday to Paris, upon no occasion but to see mademoiselle d'entragues; which needs not, for he hath not been idle, neither at Orleans nor here; but hath had variety brought him out of all parts; and for any thing I see, he minds nothing else, but that and hunting, and will hardly stay one whole day with his counsel. We know not when to look for him here again, but his counsel remains here. The journey to Lyons is uncertayne, because, as I said once before, he hath prorogued the term for the Marquisate until the beginning of January, which being so, there is no great cause of his going to Lyons, for his marriage with the Princess of Florence goeth rather Backward than forward, there having been yet never any motion made of it directly on his part, and the Emperor pursuing it very early. Of the Archduke's arrival in the low-countries we hear not yet, but suppose he is well onward in his way thither. Here is a secret muttering of an enterprise intended by the states, with some secret favor from hence, for the kingdom of Portugal, in favor of the Duke of Braganza; not without the secret allowance of the Pope, as I am informed. And surely if the matter of the Marquisate break out into war, I think verily it will be set on foot, and will be communicated unto her Majesty. In the mean time, some speaches have been cast out afar off of such a matter, whereof I have laid no hold, because I had no commission to warrant me to deal in that matter. The princes of Lorraine, absolutely refused to come with the King to this town, saying they would not march in the blood of their house. And so hoping e're it be long to have occasion to write again, I humbly take my leave. Your honor's, & c. HENRY NEVILLE. The chanceller is dead since my coming to this town, and monsieur de Bellièvre hath his place. D'Incarville, controller of the finances is likewise dead; and monsieur de vienne, before tresorier de espargne, hath succeeded him.
28 July 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_016
Right honorable, Blois 28th July 1599. O. S. IT may please you to understand that I received your dispatch of the 13th July the 23d of the same, and thereupon sent to the court to pray audience, which was granted me against the next day. At my repair unto the King I delivered him her Majesty's letters, showed him the effect of them, and related at length the state of the cause, as it is contained in the copy of the letter which her Majesty first intended to write; avowing on her Majesty's behalf, that the prize of the Marseillian ship by her Majesty's ship of war, was justifiable by the law of arms and by his own ordinances, and a thing done in his service and not any way be called in question: whereas on the other side, the Marseillians, in taking of the English ship, had utterly no color or foundation, but that it was done altogether without any form of justice, of their own authority, without any commission or letters of reprisal from the King, and without requiring justice first in England, as all the treaties, both old and new, do in that case require: and therefore, although there might be some doubt conceived of the former prize made by her Majesty's ships of war; yet, for as much as the second prize made by them of marseilles, was manifestly unjust and against the treaties; it was just and reasonable, and so I did require on her Majesty's behalf, that her subjects might be reintegrated in the ship and goods then taken from them, and recompensed of the damage, loss, and charges they have sustained about that cause, and that afterwards the right and justice of the former prize might be debated; wherein her Majesty would be always content to yield to that which was just and reasonable. The King answered, he would be very sorry any subjects of his should offer wrong to any of his good sisters, and that he would by no means permit it; and therefore willed me to deliver a note of the matter to his counsel, who should consider of it and give me answer. Then I told him, that upon relation from me of the complaint he had used at my first and second audience, of want of justice on our part upon offenders and offenses at sea, (as he had received information from his Ambassador) her Majesty had sent those she had deputed to deal in those causes to his Ambassador, to know wherein he found himself greeved, and to let him see the particularities and reasons of their proceedings; who upon that conference confessed, he had in all points received very good justice, and that touching the delay used both in the judgment and execution of some causes, now he was informed of the reason thereof, he was likewise very well satisfied: and that her Majesty thought it sit to let him know thus much, that he might see the regard she bare to him, and her desire to give him and his subjects all good contentment. He told me, he took it in very kind part, that her Majesty was so careful to see justice done unto his subjects, and willed me to assure her of all good correspondence on his part. Then I came to speak of the advertisements her Majesty had received, of the two Spaniards coming to Brest, and their errand thither, which the King would in no wise believe, saying, that Monsieur de Sourdiac parted from him at Orleans but four days before, and he was sure would have told him if there had been any such thing. I replied, that the Queen was advertised by so good means, that she could not but give some credit unto it; and therefore prayed him to inform himself of the truth of it, and to acquaint her Majesty with it, that she might thereby discover the more of the King of Spain's designs; and to take order, that neither there nor in any other port of his kingdom, they might receive any harbor or succour, it being a thing altogether contrary to the treaties, and far from that friendship that her Majesty had cause to expect at his hands. He willed me to assure the Queen, that there should not be any such thing permitted in any place of his kingdom, and seemed to wonder that the Spaniards should presume so much upon him, saying, there was no such good intelligence between them, but he would send to Monsieur de Sourdiac. After this I told him, that his Ambassador had signified unto her Majesty, that he was willing to continue the treaty of Blois made between her and King Charles the 9th, which she took as an argument of his good affection, in that he was desirous to confirm a treaty of so straight amity between them and their subjects as that was, and had willed me to let him know, that she did likewise very willingly assent unto the continuance and confirmation of it; and that she was also well content to annex and incorporate into it, such articles as had been moved to be established, for reformation of abuses committed at sea; only she desired him to allow of some alteration in one of them, which concerned the free passage of all ships carrying French flags, wherein she had already found great inconveniency, as I particularly rehearsed unto him, of the four Spanish ships which escaped by that means, and of the two biscainers which brought succours to the rebels in Ireland: and therefore desired that some other expedient might be thought of, which might effect his purpose and desire, without such notable prejudice to her estate, and benefit to her enemies. The King said, it was reason there should be a distinction made between friends and foes. I asked him how that could be, if the carrying of a flag (which all ships that feared us would be sure of ,) were made a sufficient warrant for any ship to pass unsearched, or uncontroll'd; and therefore prayed him again to consider, how little reason and safety there was for the Queen in that course. I told him also, that there are some few points likewise which her Majesty desired might likewise be added to the treaty of Blois it self, which I hoped upon conference would appear so reasonable, as they would not be disliked. His answer to all was, that he would depute some of his counsel, to treat of these points with me, and would be ever willing to give the Queen his good sister all contentment reasonable; and so dismissed me, having first showed me where the Duke of Guise was killed; and made the more haste to dispatch me, as I guess, because the Ambassador of Savoy was attending without in the mean time for audience. That afternoon, which was the first opportunity I could have, I was with monsieur Villeroy, and repeated unto him what had passed between the King and me, and desired I might receive some satisfaction in the matters I had moved. For the matter of marseilles, he said monsieur de boissise had written of it, and had advertised him that the commissioners were all of opinion, that the first prize made by the Queen's ships was not good, and that restitution should be made thereupon: which being done, those of marseilles would likewise restore the prize they had taken; but that since some of the counsel had been of another mind, belike upon some particular respect and interest. I told him, no particular man could have interest in that prize, being made by one of the Queen's ships of war, and therefore that was but a mean surmize without ground. He said he was informed, that at that very instant, the Marseillians did ordinarily trade, and were wellcome into England, and were not at that time actually declared against the King, and therefore had no war with us: and if they had been so declared against the King, yet as we justified our prize upon them by the war, so would they justify theirs upon us; which I seeing to be his chief anchor-hold, told him, that we did not so much justify the prize we made by the war, (for that indeed the Marseillians were not then in actual rebellion against the King) as by the King's ordinance, confiscating all goods that his subjects should carry to any town revolted, which gave authority to any in his service, to seize and take them: and that those ships of war were then in his service, and at his request appointed to keep the coast for that only purpose, to impeach the traffic, and to interrupt all such things as should presume so much upon those revolted towns. On the other side, the prize made by the Marseillians upon us, which were then the King's friends and theirs, and without either letters of reprisal from the King, or without any requisition of justice made on their parts, and refused on ours; was without any ground or color of justice, and contrary to all the treaties between the two crowns: and therefore that it was just and meet that the Queen's subjects should be fust reintegrated in that which was taken from them without any form of justice, and afterwards the right of the other prize might be debated likewise. He replied nothing, but only willed me to deliver a particular memorial of the case in writing, which he would present to the counsel, and procure me an answer. Touching the justice done upon their complaints, he confessed their ambassadors had given very good testimony of his satisfaction. For the matter of Brest he answered as the King had done, but promised to be thoroughly informed of it; assuring me the King would permit no such matter, to the hurt or disfavour of her Majesty, with whom he so much desired to hold all good amity and correspondence. He told me also, that the Queen should not need to doubt any such attempt now; for though the King of Spain had assembled a good army at length, yet he thought he had no intention to provoke her Majesty anew; and although he had, yet at this time he was forced to employ his forces another way, by reason that the states army had taken the great canaries, as certain advertisements came yesternight. Hence we came to speak of the treaties of Blois, and the reglement for marine causes: for the first, he said, the King was ever willing, as he had often told, to make straight amity with the Queen, either by renewing that treaty, or in any other sort that should be reasonable; and said, your honor had desired to add two articles unto it, which their Ambassador had sent him, and that they were likewise desirous to add some in behalf of their own merchants. Whereupon fearing they might be such, as might marr all the rest, and take away the advantage we have now in that treaty: I told him my commission was double in this matter; first, to propose the renewing the treaty as it is, where the King seems tied by the treaty to declare his intention to her Majesty, she being the survivor, and he the successor of him who last confirmed it. Secondly, might likewise move addition on their part; but if they should not agree upon the additions, yet the Queen conceived that the King had offered her to move the addition of those articles that had been spoken of to Monsieur Boissise and some other, in which case they confirmation of the treaty as it is, to which he seemed to assent: and thereupon he entered into some speech of dislike of the second point required to be added touching the staple of the hanses; I told him, it was a thing might be greatly prejudicial to her Majesty, if they might be suffered to make France a bridge and passage to convey their commodities of that kind into Spain, and would neither agree with our amity, nor greatly advantage France, that their new and scarce assured friend, should be so strengthened against us, their so well approved friends. He bade me assure my self that the King would never suffer it; but in some things he said we must trust them, or if we would needs require an article for it, it must be General, without naming any particularly, either to whom, or at from whom, those commodities should come. Lastly, we came to speak of the alteration required in that article of reglement touching the free passage of all ships bearing French flags, which he insisted much upon, saying, that it was agreed upon after long debate and consultation on both sides, and that it was the only way to prevent the abuses and spoils which would be committed, if liberty of searching were permitted. I told him, for the first point I was very well acquainted with the proceedings of this matter, and I did know very perfectly, that this point was very much insisted upon by your honor, and absolutely refused to be passed in that sort he required it, and that monsieur de boissise had assented to admit some exceptions; but that afterwards her Majesty, upon new instance, being ever desirous to give the King all contentment that her estate would permit, had condescended to make some trial of the course he propounded, and that upon trial thereof she had found so great inconveniency already happened, and like to happen daily, as she had just cause to refuse it, and to pray the King to be contented, that some other more indifferent course might be thought of, which was the surest way to make the treaty to have continuance; whereof otherwise necessity would enforce them to break it, who found so great inequality and disadvantage in it. For the second I said, the experience they had lately made of her Majesty's care and indulgence to minister justice in the like complaints, might secure them from all doubt or danger of any abuse to grow that way; and therefore I prayed him not to do her Majesty that wrong to distrust her any more than she did them, but that in confidence one of anothers sincerity, as was meet to be among good friends, we might think of some equal course for both. He said, he did not see how there could be any other safe course devised for their side. Thereupon I told him, I was sure monsieur de boissise had acquainted him with that which had been propounded from your honor out of their own ordinances, which I also showed him, together with another article I had collected out of the same ordinances, whereof I send your honor a copy: and I said, as their kings had thought it reasonable to prescribe that law not only to their subjects, but their allies also, so was it as reasonable and as lawful for her Majesty to do the same: and therefore I wished that we might follow those ordinances as a ground, and add thereunto such other conditions, as should be reasonable. His answer was, that we might make what ordinances we would, for government of our own people, and so might they for theirs; but in penning a treaty, both sides must agree, and nether interests must govern the other. I replied, that they had made that ordinance, to take hold of their allies as well as their subjects; and if we now required them to be contented to receive the same measure they had given to others, they could not with any reason or justice refuse it; for if it were just on their side, it is as just on ours. At length being thus pressed upon that point, he said, I should confer with the counsel upon all these matters, and they would consider of them, and give me answer. After this, because I would give him some occasion, to discover the cause of derstood there were such ambassadors here, who had lately been in England, and not having obtained their purpose there, it may be they might make a partial report of their differences with her Majesty, to her disadvantage and dishonour; and therefore I thought good to let him know the truth of it, which I did summarily, according to the writing your honor sent me. He seemed very glad to be informed of it, and said he would be always ready to justify her Majesty's honor, in her proceedings with them and the rest of the hanses; but that in truth, the hamburghers had made no complaint of her Majesty's proceedings to his knowledge, and that their business here, was only to renew such privileges, as had been granted them heretofore in this kingdom. I prayed him, therein to have a regard, that there might grow no wrong or prejudice to his other allies, especially in such sort as I had before mentioned; he willed me to assure my self, that there was no such thing required, nor if it were, would be granted. Lastly, I told him I had received commandment to make new instance for the payment of the money, the Queen my Mistress had Lent the King: but I did forbear it, until I had received answer to my proposition I had delivered, chiefly touching that matter: hoping that the reason and justice of the cause being such as it spake sufficiently for it self, they would without any further poursuite, determine to give her Majesty such answer as might content her, which I prayed him I might receive with some expedition, having so long already attended for it, and her Majesty being in great expectation of it. He said, I had done well to forbear to make any new instance in it to the matter he said, he had the very day before moved the counsel, that I might receive an answer with some satisfaction to her Majesty if it were possible, but he saw so little hope thereof, that he was very loth to make me such an answer as would so little content me. I said I must needs urge him for an answer, which I would be glad might be such, as her Majesty might reap some comfort and contentment for her kindness towards the King; which had not been an ordinary kindness, but such as all the allies of the crown of France put together, had not performed so much; which, added to her more than ordinary occasions to require reimbursement, deserved more than an ordinary answer. He confessed all to be true that I said, and that the King was bound in many respects to give her Majesty better satisfaction, and protested he had done and would do, his best endeavours in it: but he saw no possibility for this present year; but they were now beginning dresser l'estat for the year to come, wherein the King had commanded, that there should be express regard had of her Majesty's contentment; but what it would be in particular, could not be known till they had finished the state, which would be about the end of August. He advised me to talk with Monsieur de Rosny about it, unto whom I went afterward, and received in effect the same answer. what your honor's opinion was touching his being installed for the King, which he saith proceeded first from a motion made by some in England to the Ambassador for that purpose: but seeing he perceaves the Queen would not like of it, he saith the King will think of some other. I made a motion as of my self, protesting that I had no commission to do it, but that it came only out of my desire that the King would not too much discontent her Majesty, but shew a desire at least to satisfy her some way, that he should make her an offer of some corn, to be delivered at some ports most convenient for her, which perhaps she would accept in steed of money, at the least for so much as she should had occasion to use in Ireland, for the victualling of her army and garrisons there; or howsoever, yet it would somewhat moderate the discontentment which otherwise she might justly conceive, to be utterly neglected. He seemed to hearken willingly unto it, and gave me thanks for putting him in mind of it, saying he would propose it as of himself to the King, and that he verily hoped somthing would be done that way. So that now it may please your honor to let me know, how much or to what a value her Majesty will accept in that sort; for mine own part, I think all is well gotten that can be won out of these men's hands: and as for the prices, I make no doubt but they will be as reasonable, or more, than the prices in England, for it is the only thing that is cheape here. Also I would desire to know at what places her Majesty would desire to receive it, for I think that will be all one to them. I have procured the King's letters under the great seal, to stay the execution of the letters of mart granted to certain merchants of Bayonne. And for the matter of the seminary at Rheims, Monsieur de Villeroy showed me the Archbishop's letter to the King, wherein he confesseth, that such a thing had been moved and followed by one barret an English Priest, that had heretofore been governor of that college; but that since his death which happen'd about whitsuntyde last, the matter hath lyen dead, and now he understands the King's pleasure in it, he assureth it shall not be revived. I send your honor a copy of the commission granted by the King to do justice in marine causes, it may please you to give order to all such as have cause of complaint in that kind, to send some one over at common charge, which may be thoroughly instructed in their causes, and armed with sufficient proofs, which may attend and follow their business; my self will be always ready to assist him the best I may; but the stating of the causes being at Rouen, and I remaining so far off, nether I nor any of mine, can attend to follow their suits: I would be glad they might receive some justice here, as well as their people have done in England, and I hope to procure it. I thought good to send away this bearer with thus much, because I understand honor should be acquainted with all that hath passed between us, as well, and as soon as he. While these matters are in handling, it will be necessary that the curriers be the more set on work; these matters once ended, there will be no more that occasion, and the extraordinary expense now, may be saved afterwards terwards. As soon as I have treated with the counsel, and received my answer, I will send again. In the mean time, I send your honor a project of mine own for the article of the treaty of depredations, which you desire to have altered, it may be they will especially except to the point of victuals; your honor will be pleased I hope, to let me understand your pleasure therein, and generally, what I shall yield, and what I shall insist upon. And so, & c. Your honor's, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
01 August 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_017
Right honorable, Blois 1st August 1599. O. S. I was yesterday in conference with the counsel, viz. The Chancellor, the presented in writing at Orleans, desiring I might after so long attendance at length receive an answer; and in the matter of the money, adding what weight of reason and persuasion my poor wits were able to afford. Their answer were full of very good words, acknowledging the Queen's many favors, and the King's great obligation to her: that they were already entered into consultation which way to give her satisfaction, and that very shortly I should receive an answer. Afterwards we entered into conference of the points I had last in charge: first, touching the matter of Marseilles, which I related unto them, as I had done before to Monsieur de Villeroy, and certified in my last dispatch. They answered, they would with all convenient speed inform themselves of the particulars of the cause, and then I should receive satisfaction. Secondly, we spake of the article of the treaty or reglement of depredations, which I desired might be changed, and qualified in such sort, as her Majesty might be freed from such inconveniences as had thereby already happened, and were daily like to happen; which I declared in particular, shewing that the matter imported us much more than it did them; for it concerned them only in profit, but it concerned us in our preservation, and that the Queen was resolute not to suffer so notable a prejudice any longer; and therefore wished they would enter into consultation of some other course, more equal and indifferent for us both; and for the more speedy proceeding therein, I said her Majesty had proposed unto Monsieur Boissise, certain articles taken out of their own ordinances, which she thought not impertinent to be put in execution on both sides. Which being redd, were absolutely refused by them all, alleging that those ordinances were made for a time, and on a special occasion, ever resisted by their allies as unreasonable, therefore we must not think to thrust them upon them now. I told them if they were just then when they made them, they were as just now, no Prince having ever had more occasion to be jealous of that which is done at sea, than her Majesty hath now; besides, we required nothing of them but that we were content to yield them, which would be no disadvantage; and therefore they must be contented to secure her Majesty either that way, or some other way to the same purpose; for the greatest law of all, was that of a man's own preservation; and they might be assured, the Queen would not betray herself and her estate, nor suffer her enemy to be armed and strengthened against her, when she had power to impeach it; and if they were such friends to us as they pretended, they would not upon such petty respects of profit, urge any thing that they saw by evident proof so prejudicial unto us; but would rather according to the natur e of true amity, bear or suffer a little for the good of their friends; and this was the only thing wherein we had hitherto had occasion to make trial of their friendship towards us: all that hath passed until now between us having been burden and charge unto us, without any return on their part. They answered, it was not reasonable they should press any thing that should be so prejudicial unto us as it seemed this might be; yet on the other side, they could not any way endure that yoke of servitude, to have their ships searched; assuring themselves that course would never pass without great wrong and injustice to the weaker; but they would consult of it, and confer with their Admiral and other officers, who understood more of these matters than they did, and thereupon advise of some course which might be more to our contentment, and advertise their Ambassador of it, to impart unto her Majesty and her counsel. I understood since by monsieur de Villeroy, that he had received fresh advertisements out of Spain, containing confirmation of the taking of the great Canaries by the Hollanders, and withal that the King's fleet is assembled at Ferrol, consisting of 150 sail or thereabout, and 12000 men. His opinion is, if the Hollanders possess and hold the island, then the King will send his whole fleet that way; otherwise, if they leave the island and follow after prey and gaine, he believes that a great part of this fleet will come for Ireland, or some part of England, and therefore wisheth the Queen not to be unprovided in both. Of the matters of the Low Countries, your honor is better, and more speedily advertised than they be here, therefore I forbear. I send you a copy of the King's letters of prohibition, to receive, harbor, or favor any ships of war in the parts of this kingdom. I thought good to send this bearer expressly, the rather, because this advertisement out of Spain seems to be of importance. I send your honor a copy of the advertisements that came yesterday out of Spain, which because they seem to be of much moment, I have willed the Messenger to take post that he may make haste. It may please your honor to consider of him in his allowance accordingly. You must look for no money hence till the next year, and then, without all doubt, you may make some certain account, to receive some good sum. The 20000 crowns will not fail to be ready at Michaelmas, and shall be paid at Rouen or Dieppe, which her Majesty will. The German army is already come to the Rhine, with a purpose to attempt the fort the Spaniards have built at Rees, to defend their bridge. The princes that deal in this action are, the Duke of Brunswick, the Landgrave of Hesse, and the Marquis of Ansbach of the house of Brandenburg, the rest have retired themselves. We hold they have already taken Berck. The Spaniards are gone out of the isle of Bommel to meet with them, having left in the fort 3000 foot and 400 horse. The States labor by all means to join the German army with theirs, whereunto most of the German commanders have assented, and it is hoped it will be effected, though some be unwilling. The Duke of Brunswick and the Landgrave are looked for in person in the camp every day. And so I humbly take my leave. Your honor's, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
07 August 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_018
Right honorable, Paris, 7 Aug. 1599. O. S. It may please you to understand, that within a day after I sent away my last dispatch, Monsieur de Villeroy came to my lodging at Blois, and after long and solemn protestations from himself and the rest of the Council, how sorry they were that the King's disability at present would not suffer him to give the Queen better satisfaction at this time, acknowledging the great justice and reason of her demands, the King's great obligations towards her, and assuring me of a full and settled purpose in the King and them all, to give her Majesty very good contentment this next year: he delivered me answer in writing, to that I had likewise presented in writing at my first coming to Orleans; excusing the long deferring of it, upon his desire to have given me some certainty of that her Majesty should expect this next year; for which cause (but for the instance and earnestness I have used) he would still have deferred it, until the state of the receipts and payments for the next year had been perfected, which would be within five or six weeks. But for my satisfaction, and likewise for my discharge, that there might appear no default in my diligence, he had brought me this answer in the mean time, which he prayed me to interpret the best of, and to assure her Majesty, that there wanted rather means than good will in the King to satisfy her: and that he would be alway ready, not only to pay her what he owed as soon as possibly he could, to which in honor and justice he was bound; but also to expose his whole force, and his own person in her defence, if she had need at any time, to requite the faithful friendship he had found at her hands. When I had received the answer, I told him, I was sorry that the great deserts of her Majesty, and the reason and justice of her demands, which they did so fully acknowledge, together with the instance and solicitation I had used ever since my coming, had wrought so little effect for her Majesty's contentment. I put him in mind of that speech I had before used to the Council, namely, that I prayed them to consider to whom it was that they were to give an answer, and upon what subject and occasion: that it was to a great Princess, who had most faithfully and sincerely assisted the King in his greatest extremity; and that having means, and great opportunity to have dismembered and ruined the crown of France, and perhaps to have taken a good portion of it herself, (as many other Princes would gladly have done, and some did, detaining it to this day ,) chose rather to employ her uttermost means and forces to preserve it; and had effected perhaps more therein than all the rest of the friends and allies of the crown of France; neglecting in some sort her own affairs for that purpose, and not refusing to bring herself into some want to supply them. That she now demanding nothing but some part of her own, whereof she had disfurnished herself to furnish them; and that not upon any light occasion, but being as they all knew in actual war, both at home within her own realm of Ireland and abroad, against one of the greatest and most potent Princes of Europe, whose continual attempts and designs against her she could not repel as she had done, but with great and continual charge; and therefore that this her so extraordinary occasions, joined with the great reason and justice of her demands, deserved at their hands a more than ordinary acknowledgment and care to content her. That this answer might well have been given to the Signory of Venice, or the Duke of Florence, who perhaps out of their abundance had lent the King some money, and being in peace with all the world, had no great occasion to press him for repayment. Whereas the Queen my Mistress, by reason of her present war, and the continual burden she hath borne almost alone for many years to the benefit of all Christendom, in withstanding the intended Monarchy of Spain, could not have time or means to gather much treasure. Therefore I wished them to weigh with themselves, first, whether it were just, in so great a difference of merits and occasions, not to make a difference of their proceedings and acknowledgment: and secondly, whether it could be for their advantage and the good of their affairs, to suffer their friends to fall into any inconvenience for the good will they had performed towards them; and that the world should discover that the friendship of France is rather amicitia peregravans and burdensome, than profitable to them which embrace it. And this I said for the generality of the answer, but in particular I excepted against that part of the answer which concern the customs of Rouen and Newhaven, which I said unto him, I marvelled how they could make with any show or regard of honor, giving just occasion to the Queen to think, that in offering her assurance for her money there was an intention to abuse her, seeing the same was before engaged to others. Monsieur de Villeroy to the first part of my speech answered, that he confessed all to be true that I said, and that I had all justice and reason on my side: but that the King's disability was such, by reason of the desolation of his country, and poverty of the people, from whom his revenues do arise, that he could do no more for this year; and therefore desired that her Majesty would add this to her former great favors towards the King, to have patience for a few months. To the second point he said, that in very deed the King knew not in what sort those customs stood, till the towns came into his hands, and that if there were any fault it was in his ministers, who knew those things better than he: that the King's intention was not to abuse her Majesty, and that now he found in what estate those customs stood, he would think of satisfying her by some other means, which he thought would be all one to her, so she might receive satisfaction any way. I told him, I would relate this answer to her Majesty, which I knew not how she would interpret; but I knew it would nothing answer her expectation. And therefore wished him to make her some amends for this long delay, by assignation of some round sum for the next year, and to be paid in the first quarter, that she might make use of it for her preparations against the beginning of summer. He said he would do his best to procure it should be so. We had likewise some speech about the 20000 crowns in what money it should be paid; I urging the payment in gold, in lieu of the charge and trouble saved of paying it in London, which the King was bound to by the obligation, and because that French silver coin is not current in England. I was answered, the King could not pay it but in such money as he received, which was altogether silver, and their silver was so good, that I should be willing enough to receive it here, and to pay it in London. The place of payment they required to be at Rouen, which I disliked not, but yet desired if her Majesty liked better to receive it at Dieppe that it might be paid there, which was granted. It may please your honor to direct me before the time what course shall be taken for the conveying of it, or otherwise making it over by exchange; and if you determine to have it received at Dieppe, and to transport it in kind, it may please you likewise to send over one authorized, with letters of procuration to receive it, and take charge of it, for so they seemed to require of me. But I told them, that the delivery of the obligation, with an acquittance of my hand, or his that received it, was sufficient, which they seemed not much to contest upon: yet being received by any other than my self, perhaps they will require his procuration: for some five or six hundred pound of it, I am desirous if it please her Majesty, to receive it here and pay it there, to save loss of the exchange in making it over. I beseech you Sir, I may know whether she so please to allow of it, that I may give order for the payment of the money there accordingly. The next day after this conference with Monsieur de Villeroy, I came away to this town, because the King was here in this town, and his return thither very uncertain. The ambassadors continue almost all in this town, but only he of Savoy, and the Spanish Ambassador, who came to Blois two days before the King came away. The King is yet here, stayed as I guess the rather by the accident that fell out between the Prince de Joinville and monsieur le grand, which was this: upon Tuesday night last, after they had all accompanied the King from the place where he had supped to his lodging to zamet's house, the Duke of Guise, Prince of Joinville, le grand and his brother, and monsieur de terms, went all out together; and the rest being already entered into le grand his coach, Joinville pulled le grand by the cloak, and required to speak with him, who thereupon drawing himself aside from the company, Joinville told him, he had been wronged to the King by a report, that he should make love to mademoiselle d'entragues, which made the King jealous of him, of which report he thought him le grand to be the author, and therefore, saith he to him, thou shall dye, and withal pulled out his sword and ran him in, the other having no weapon about him; but with haste, or some accident, his thrust lighted lower then he intended, and ran him into the flank and through the thigh, without danger; but hereupon some company coming in on both sides, the vidame de mans, and an Esquire of le grands were very for hurt, and the vidame not like to escape as I hear. The King hearing of the matter leaped out of his bed, and ran down in his shirt with a sword in his hand, but by that time the rest were gone, and le grand was brought in wounded as he was. The King hath taken it exceedingly ill, and hath sent for his court of parliament, and willed them to do severe justice upon the fact. The Prince of Joinville is fled into Lorraine, the Duchess of Guise and her daughter have been sundry times on their knees before the King, but he seems very resolute, commanding le grand not to seek revenge by any means, but to refer it to him, for that he takes the scorn as done to himself; yet for all this it is thought the King will be won in the end to pass it over. Since my coming to this town, I learn that there are certain jesuits come hither to the King from Rome, to entreat for the restoring of their order into France, which is a matter the Pope hath much laboured. + The chief of them is called padre maggio. They were presented here unto him by the Pope's Nuncio, and presently brought out again, and referred till his counsel and he should come together. Monsieur de Villeroy is a great favorer of their restitution, but the court of parliament is earnest against them. The Archduke's speed in his journey hath not been such as was expected. The last letters that came from Venice, made mention of his being yet at Milan. The King is yet purposed to go hence to morrow towards Blois, where he yet intends to make but small stay, and from thence go to the Duke of Montpensier's house at champigny, and so to tours and saumur, and diverse noblemen's houses thereabouts, to pass his time till the end of summer. His counsel remains at Blois, and this is thought to be purposely to put off business and suits for money, wherewith he is continually pestered, but payeth no man: and by this separation of the King and his counsel, men are posted from one to the other, which serves for a delay. For the matter of the treaty your honor seeth what they offer, either to continue it as it is, or to add on both sides. I beseech you advice whether it be not better for us to take it as it is now, than by seeking to add on our side, to give them occasion to add somewhat likewise on theirs, which will take away the advantage we have in that treaty. I remember monsieur fontaine was talking with me about some such matter before my coming over, and complaining of the restraint of free trade used to the frenchmen in England. If it please you to talk with him, I think you may discover by him what they mean to stand upon. For our part, so all impositions raised, and all acts passed since 1572, contrary to the treaty, may be revoked, I think we are very well; and so much they cannot refuse, being no new addition, but only a confirmation and execution of the treaty. And for that of the not executing of letters of mart at land, it may be put in the treaty of depredations, without giving them occasion or pretext thereby to require any addition on their part to the treaty of Blois. And so for this time I humbly take my leave. Your honor's most humbly to be commanded, HENRY NEVILLE
Responce du roy au derniere memoire presenté à sa majesté par le seigneur de Neville ambassadeur de la royne d'angleterre. LE roy desirant s'acquiter envers la royne d'angleterre sa bonne fœur & coufine, de ce qu'il luy doibt, & luy donner toute occasion d'attendre & recevoir de la continuation de son amitté tout ce à quoy les plaisirs qu'il a receus d'elle l'obligent; a commandé aux gens de son conseil d'adviser aux moyens de I contribuans de leur l'affection, fidelité & obeissance qu'ilz doibvent au service & aux commandments de sa majesté, & pareillement à la justice de la demand de la dicte royne, fortifiée encores de la consideration & recognoissance des bien faictz que la nation françoise a receus d'elle: ont toutesfois recogneu, que les fonds des finances de sa majesté de la present année est si incertain & espuisé, à cause de la generalle pauvreté du peuple, de la seul substance duquel il depend, & de ce que l'on est si advancé dans l'année; que ce dit tout ce que sa majesté peult faire en icelle que payer la sum de 20000 efcuz qui luy furent prestez en l'an 1599, mais aussi elle sera fournie en la ville de Dieppe, royne. Et comme fadite majesté avec ceulx de soudit conseil est encores incertaine quelz feront les deniers qu'elle tirera de ses subjects l'année prochaine, elle ne mois quelle fcaura ce dont elle pourrà faire estat, sa majesté ne voulant rien Pareillement, fadite majesté feroit tresaise de laisser à ladite dame la jouissance des impositions & terms de gabelles & autres daces qui se levent aux villes de Rouen & du Havre de Grace, comme il luy fut promis l'an 1590 par fes commissaires, si fadite majesté en pouvoit disposer: mais fadite majesté a trouvé toutes lefd '. Impositions vendues & alienées par les roys ses predecesseurs devant son advenement à la couronne, ainsi quelle a verifié depuis que lesdites villes se sont remises en son obeissance; de sorte qu'il n'est plus en la puissance d'en ordonner; dont sa majesté est tresmarrye, comme elle est de n'avoir autant de moyen à present de contenter ladite royne, qu'elle en a la volenté, & qu'elle recognoist I estre obligée: mais elle espere la recompenser à l'advenir, que ses affairs feront remises en meilleur estat qu'elles ne sont; de façon, que ladite royne en demeurera satisfaille, qui est ce que sa majesté desire le
08 August 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_019
Right honorable, Paris, 8th Aug. 1599. O. S. THE daily bruits current in this town, of the Spaniards landing in England, have moved me to send away this express Messenger to learn some certainty, both to satisfy myself and others, who continually come or send unto me about it: withal I am to let your honor understand, that notwithstanding the advice I gave in my last of the Archduke's slow proceeding in his voyage homeward, I am certainly now advertised, that both he and the Infanta arrived in Lorraine this last week, and were feasted by that Duke at Nancy, from whence they dispatched the Prince of Orange to do some compliments to this King; who arrived here in this town yesterday, and is this day gone towards Blois to the King. To morrow it is said the Archduke makes his entry into Luxembourg, and about eight or ten days hence to Brussels, where there is great magnificence prepared to receive him. The King is expected here again within fifteen days, having a purpose to see the Queen dowager at chenonceaux, and the Duke of Montpensier at his house at Champigny in Poitou, and so to return. The Turk is said to be recovered of his great sickness, and to have showed himself publicly in the mosque. The peace is treated between him and the Emperor by the means of the Tartars, from whom the Persians have lately recovered a great country, which they have occupied during the wars against the Turk, and have defeated a great army of them, and slain their Cham. The Sophi hath lately sent a great embassage to the Turk to communicate his good success therein, and withal to demand restitution of such countries as have been in these late wars taken from him; which being not performed, it is thought he will seek it by force. The Emperor is thought to be somewhat crazed or distempered in his brain, and hath discarded and sent home to their houses two of his principal counsellers, rumf and trautz. The accident of his sickness gives occasion for many discourses in these parts, and of direct practice and labor as I hear of this King, to be King of the Romans; for which purpose, + besides Bongars, who remains for the most about Frankfurt, he hath another at this present in Saxony. I will inform my self of this point more particularly, and accordingly I will acquaint your honor. For the matter of the Marquisate, the Ambassador of Venice doth assure me, according to his intelligence out of Italy, that the Pope will judge it for the King of France, and that before the end of September. For my part I am very doubtful of it, and if it fall out so, I shall take it for an argument, either of exceeding weakness in the King of Spain, or obstinate resolution to bend himself against us; for otherwise reason of state would not suffer him to give such way to the French into Italy. For the matter of the marriage, no man knows what to conjecture. The King never made more show of affection to Mademoiselle d'Entragues than at his last being in this town, and I hear by some familiar in that house, that they are in great hope the King will marry her. On the other side, the King doth not in public shew or speech entertain the other, and as I learn hopes shortly to receive contentment from Rome touching his divorce, for which purpose, (howsoever he be otherwise inclined) he must make a pretence of that match of Florence, for otherwise the Pope, who affects that match, will not be drawn so easily to consent. I was lately to visit the constable, whom I had not seen before, by reason of his absence from the court and this town; but I wrote unto him from Orleans, and included both her Majesty's letters, with such compliments as I was directed to do unto him. And now I renewed the same, and received as good contentment from him for his affection and devotion towards her Majesty, as I have done from any since I came into France. He hath promised to deal with the King effectually about the matters I have proposed, and confesseth there is no reason nor honor in the answer I have received. The worst is I fear he bears no great sway in counsel, although he be the chief man. I would gladly know her Majesty's pleasure, whether I shall do any compliment to the young Prince of Condé, who lies at St. Maur two leagues from this town; or to the Count Soissons when he comes, who hath yet never been at court since my arrival. And so, hoping to hear from your honor, and to receive your further direction about all matters which I have negotiated here, I most humbly take my leave, & c. Your honor's, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
14 August 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_020
Right honorable, Paris, 14th August 1599. O. S. SINCE my return to Paris, Charles Paget hath again made means to me, to know her Majesty's disposition and your honor's towards him, and what hope there is of his pardon and Grace from her Majesty. I let him understand, that it was not to be expected, that after so great and so long continued offenses as his hath been, her Majesty would at the first motion, and as it were upon even hand, receive him to her Grace; but that it was likely she would make first some trial of him, whether his pretended sorrow, and desire of returning into her obedience, were real on his part; and therefore he must make account to give some assured argument thereof, by some actual and important service, as well as his former actions had given open testimony of a contrary disposition. He answered, that he would be ready to give any arguments or assurance thereof, that he was able to give; and desired to know what it was that was required of him, protesting with great vows and oaths, that he would willingly spend life, credit, and all he had to serve her Majesty, and to cancel his former faults; which he confessed to be great, but yet such as her Majesty in her mercy and clemency had pardoned as great, to her eternal honor. He let me see a large discourse of his own writing against the proceedings of Parsons, and the rest of the Jesuits, wherein he layeth open some of their practices, and sheweth his dislike of them; which he offers to send to your honor, if you shall think good to print it with his name to it, and thereby declare himself an open enemy, and make himself irreconcilable unto them: besides the disgust he hopes to work thereby in the minds of all the Catholics of England, who are ignorant of these practices, and therefore believe too well of them. He seems very desirous to return with her Majesty's liking into the low-countries, if the treaty of peace proceed; pretending to be able to do her Majesty good service by his intelligence and credit there: and afterwards either to return and serve her in England, if it please her to be so gracious unto him, or to be used, and commanded by her wheresoever it pleaseth her: only he desires that he may end his days, with that comfort and satisfaction of mind and confidence, that he is restored to her gracious favor, and to the obedience of his natural Prince. I beseech your honor let me understand how I shall further proceed with him, and what comfort I shall give him, and what particularly I shall require at his hands; I do think there is more in him than in most of the rest, and like enough there may be good use made of him, which I leave to your honor's better consideration. I am advertised that Spinola is arrived at Dunkirk with six galleys, which he hath an intention to employ upon our coasts, in making continual spoils there, and perhaps to attempt somewhat upon our navy in the medway. Also that the Infanta will stay at Namur, till the end of their September, but the Archduke goeth presently to Brussels. And so I humbly take my leave. Your honor's, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
20 August 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_021
Right honorable, Paris 20th of August 1599, o. S. I wrote unto your honor from Blois, what answer the King had made me, in that matter of the Spaniards coming to Brest with letters to Monsieur de Sourdiac, requesting harbor and favor for their navy there if they need it; the same answer I received likewise from Monsieur de Villeroy. Notwithstanding, at my return to Paris, I thought it fit to put him again in mind of it, and though I could have no access unto him, yet I found the means to do it by a friend I have near about him, the rather because I understood the like request had been made to some governors of other places. The effect of my travail therein, will appear by the King's letters which I understand he hath written to her Majesty, to assure her of his constant amity towards her, and his resolution not to favor her enemies, but to assist her with his forces, and his own person, if she have need of it; and I am informed he hath given order accordingly, to all the governors of his port towns. All which I assure your honor, is to be imputed chiefly to the King's own good disposition towards her Majesty. For when the advice came first unto the counsel, from the governors who had been dealt with by the Spaniards, there wanted not some in the council that were willing to have yielded them that they desired; or if not wholly, yet at least the use of victuals, water, cordage, or any thing els they wanted for their money; pretending, that they were now to consider of the Spaniard as he was, and not as he had been. Others of more honor, and more faith, as I believe, to this King and his state, were of opinion that they could neither in honor nor justice do that which was required, both in respect of the great and fresh merits of the Queen towards the King, and his state and crown, and also of the league defensive, which yet remained in force between them. This disputation divided the counsel so, as there could be no resolution taken till the King's return; who as soon as it was proposed unto him, answered very peremptorily, that all the world should not persuade him to favor the King of Spain against his good sister of England, who had dealt so faithfully and sincerely with him; but that he would declare both unto her, and to all men, that he would employ his honor, his forces, and his person in her defence. And thereupon he caused that letter to be written which before I mentioned, and which I do not doubt but her Majesty hath by this time received from Monsieur de Boissise. Of all which I thought fit her Majesty should be informed, that she may know the better what foundation to make of the King himself, and discover likewise the disposition of some principal men of his counsel, whereof, e're it be long I hope to write more particularly. The Prince of Orange is returned from the King to this town, and goeth away this evening or tomorrow towards Brussels. He was yesterday to visit the Princess of Orange his mother in law. In his return out of Italy he passed by Orange, and there established for governor monsieur de blatesn, who was before of the religion, but to continue the government, hath been contented to go to mass. I am informed that in this journey, the Prince hath obtained main leveé of his lands in the low countries, having till now received only a pension of 500 crowns a month. I understand there are lately discovered in Poitou and Auvergne, certain mines of silver, which they hope here will prove very beneficial. The King hereupon is about a reglement generally for all the mines in France, determining to take them all into his own hands, and to content the proprietors with a certain stint, proportionable to the profit that shall arise, and so to manage all by his own officers, a matter which is like to be very offensive. The edict I have seen as it is drawn, but it is not yet passed the parliament. Monsieur de Rosny affects the matter much, and if it proceed, is like to be great Master or superintendant of all the mines in France. Monsieur de La Motte Fenelon I understand is dead at Bordeaux, in his journey towards Spain. Whom they intend to employ in his place, I do not yet know, but I will be careful to learn it, and to procure Mr. Lock to be recommended unto him, as he was to the other. Out of Italy I hear by good means, that the Duke of Savoy upon pretence of discovering some practice that this King had, not only upon the Marquisate of Saluces, but upon Turin and other towns of Piedmont, made several prisoners, and amongst the rest the same captain which first betrayed Carmagnola unto him, and a countess called delbene: and thereupon hath likewise taken occasion to arm, and make himself strong, both in the Marquisate, and in Piedmont. The Agent of Geneva doth also assure me, that the Duke fortifies himself very much on Savoy side. All which confirms unto me, that I have always believed, that he hath no purpose to render Saluces unto this King. Yet I am told, the King hath wrote lately unto, the constable, that he had received good news from Rome, both touching the matter of the Marquisate, and his divorce. Out of Turkey I hear that Ephraim Pasha with 50000 men is gone to the siege of Warradin the town which the Emperor holdeth in Transylvania, ever since the accord between him and that vaiode. On the other side the Count of Wartzenburgh with 15000 men is gone towards Buda, intending some enterprise either covert or open upon it: all which notwithstanding, there is a conclusion taken between them, that deputies on both sides shall meet upon the confines in the end of the next month, to treat of a peace, which hath hitherto been entertained by mediation of the tartars. The Duchess of Tuscany is lately delivered of another son. The Duke of Mantua is still in the Low-Countries, though perhaps disappointed of his principal purpose in coming thither, by reason that the Marquis of Burgau, brother to the Cardinal Andreas, is designed General of the army, in place of the Admiral of aragon. The Count de ladron passed lately this way in post into Spain, with some dozen in his company, among the which the marquis of burgau was said to be, tho'disguised; but that agreeth not with the advices I have out of the low-countries. W.209 Charles paget doth continue to do me any good offices he can, and communicate such intelligence as he receaves. The z. Iusetk Master x. Hn. Of I. Ucwm Gray entertains me with very frivolous and absurd advertisements, as may appear by this enclosed, and some other as unprobable. He tells me he hath heard very lately from your honor, which I do not believe, because I have had nothing from you or any body else in England this full month; which makes me almost glad of that little distemperature I have now upon me, for a pretext neither to visit, nor to be visited, till I may be able to deliver some certainty of these bruits, whereof all men expect to know the trueth by me. I hope I shall shortly receive directions from your honor in all the matters I have written of since my first going to Orleans. And so, & c. Your honor's, & c. HENRY NEVILLE. Since the finishing my letter, I have thought sit to move your honor, to be a means to her Majesty, to entertain monsieur de bethune when he comes that way out of Scotland with all courtesy, and so to use the matter, that his brother Monsieur de Rosny may think himself honoured and respected in it; for this Monsieur de Rosny is very great with the King, and like daily to grow greater, and withal of the religion, and a very stout man; so as if he may be thoroughly won, there is no manne in the counsel will more advantage her Majesty's and favouring the Spanish army, there was no man more firm to her Majesty than he, and the division in the counsel as I understand passed thus; for the Spaniards were Villeroy, the Chancellor, and the first president of Rouen, Navarre and President of Grenoble: a very worthy man, but one that by reason of his religion comes but little in counsel, and bears no great sway. I beseech your honor, direct me whether I shall take any knowledge that such a point was debated in counsel, or nay; and taking knowledge of it, in which sort I shall do it: for howsoever the King's own inclination hath presently overgovern'd this matter, surely those men that have thus declared themselves for the Spaniard now, are like for the most part to carry the sway in this war, for few of the rest, except Rosny and de Messe, come ordinarily to the counsel. Therefore I hold this point in my poor judgment, as worthy of her Majesty's consideration as any thing that hath happened since my coming hither. Your honor may assure your self there is no foundation to be made of monsieur Villeroy for our good, d 100 the Duke of Bouillon is well affected, but dares not shew himself, d 122 the constable hath no credit.
26 August 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_022
Right honorable, Paris 26th Aug. 1599. O. S. YOUR honor shall understand by this enclosed, as much as I can advertise of the Spanish navy or their preparations, which might give me occasion not to trouble you with much more at this time; saving that I understand there is one Bennet an English capuchin lately taken in England, who was thought to have a hand very deep in the practice of the Duke of Joyeuse, about the woman that was suborned to counterfeit her self to be possessed with a Devil. In which practice, it is thought here, there was a dangerous reach, and not thoroughly sifted, because it would have touched some great ones. So as if now the bottom of it might be extorted from this Bennet, I think it would be very acceptable to the King. Also I learn, that this same Bennet enticed away Charles Drury from my house in my absence at Blois, and hath placed him some where secretly, so as I cannot yet hear of him. I beseech your honor he may be examined also upon that point; for though I were exceeding weary of him for his disorderliness, yet I would be glad to discharge my hands in some better sort of him. I would be glad to know whether those men were brought from Rochelle into England, that I gave advice of from Orleans. Touching the 20000 crowns, I have written to Rouen to the merchants to know how they will undertake the exchange of it, and will certify your honor e'er it be long. I will be bold to retain 600l. Of it, and I have already sent into England an order for the repayment of it into the exchequer in the beginning of the term. I have already used some means to find out such a one as your honor desires to employ into Spain, and am in some hope to hear of one very shortly. I have sought to inform myself of the quality of the haven of Dunkirk, and I cannot learn that it is meet to receive galleys, because at low water they must lie dry, which galleys furnish'd with their tackle cannot endure, as I am informed. The Duke of Savoy hath imprisoned and executed very many frenchmen which were in Turin, about this practice which he hath lately discovered. The Infanta hath nothing but peace in her mouth, whatsoever she hath in her heart. The fifteenth of September she maketh her entry in Brussels. This day one of the tréasuriers d'espargne came to me, to assure me the 20000 crowns should be ready the morrow after Michaelmas-day to be pain in Rouen. I sent this bearer with my Secretary to Blois, and now upon his return I have dispatched him with all the speed I could. And so, & c. Your honor's, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
01 September 1599
Henry Neville to Monsieur de Villeroy
ID: letter_023
, Paris 1 septembre 1599. O. S. J'eusse bien desirc avoir eu l'honneur d'entendre par vous, ce que j'ay depuis ouy par autre moyen, de la gracieuse lettre & offers sort amiables du roy presentées à ma maistresse en fes siennes occasions. Car outre ce que la cognoissance de cela m'appartenoit en quelque sorte comme estant son ministre par deça, & celuy qui en avoit traicté avecq le roy de sa part en communicquant l'advertisement qu'elle avoit receu de brest de l'arrivée de deux espagnols par le roy ne voulut croire alors, mais a depais trouvé veritable; il m'eust aussy donné plus grand contentment m'estant communique de vostre part, comme portant tesmoignage & argument de vostre faveur en mon endroict que je tant desire. Mais quoy que ce soit qui a esté la cause que vous ne m'en avez donné aucun advertisement, je le veux pluftost attribuer à quelque accident qu'à fault de bonne volonté envers moy, en ayant receu si souvent asseurance de vostre bouche, & me fentant si sort voüé & dedié que je suis à vous servir & honnorer. Je me rejouis infiniment, monsieur, de ceste constante & parfaille bonne volonté que le roy declare envers ma maistresse: & puis dire asseurement, que que les effectz en fuivent. Entre lefquelz il feroit à desirer, que le roy luy voulut presenter son fecours en la sort qui luy peut le plus profiter, & dont j'en ay tant dict deja, & vous m'avez si souvent confess la raison & justice de mes demands, qu'il ne sera besoing d'autres argumentz en ceste matiere que de prieres, lesquelles je fais treshumbles au roy, qu'il luy plaise surmonter toutes ses difficultez pour render à une si fidele alliée ung effect d'amitié qui luy est si necessaire; (car c'est au besoing qu'on cognoist l'amy) & à vous apporter plus que nul autre. d'une indisposition de ma personne sort commune aux estrangers qui viennent en ce pais; j'I envoyé mon secretaire porteur de la present, pour vous solliciter tant en cest affair, qu'autres que je raccommanday au conseil devant que des advertissements que vous pourrez avoir receu du desseing, nombre, & qualité des vaisseaux & hommes de ceste flotte d'espagne; & principalement du nombre de galeres, & si elles font desia arrivez a la corogne, pour se joindre au reste de la flotte, ou si on les attend. Vous me ferez une faveur singuliere,
01 September 1599
Henry Neville to Monsieur de Rosny
ID: letter_024
, Paris 1 septembre 1599. O. S. EStant retenu d'une indisposition de ma personne, qui a continué desia quelques jours, de sort que je ne puis pas si tost venir en cour que je defirois, j'ay pensé I envoyer ce mien secretaire pour faire mes affairs jusques à ma venue. Et me confiant beaucoup en vostre faveur & courtoisie, & en vostre bonne affection envers la royne ma maistresse, & la cause commune qu'elle embrasse, j'ay pris l'hardiesse de le vous recommander, & vous supplier de prendre confidence de luy en tout ce qu'il vous plaira de me communiquer. Par mesme moien je vous ay voulu assurer, que la royne ma soveraine fur le rapport qu'elle a eu de vos vertus & dignes qualitez, & du service tres important & tres fidele que vous faillez tous les jours au roy, vous ayme & respecte beaucoup, & desire autant de se pouvoir asseurer de vostre amitié, que de celle d'aucun seigneur en France; & fuis afsuré que ce fien desir s'accroistera, quand elle aura entendu (Comme je luy ay desia mandé ,) les bons offices que vous luy avez dernierement rendu, en la consultation qui s'est faille au conseil du roy, touchant la requisition des espagnols, d'avoir ports & autres faveurs en France pour leur armé, qu'ilz preparent contre l'angleterre. Dont cependant je vous remercie tres affectueusement en son nom, & vous prie de continuer la mesme bonne volonté, vous assurant que ma maistresse n'en sera jamais ingrate. J'ay esté in finiment resjoui de la lettre qu'il à pleu au roy d'escrire à ma souveraine, pleine d'affection, & d'offres sort amiables. Je desire seulement qu'il luy pleust de luy faire assistance en la sort, qu'elle a le plus de besoing se font en la faison & en la façon qu'on les desire, & au besoign on cognoist l'amy. Voicidonc la faison presentée au roy sur toutes autres la plus propre, de s'acquitter non seulement de fa debt, mais encore du plaisir & service qu'il a tiré vous puis dire monsieur, que cinquante ou soixante mille escus, viendront
01 September 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_025
Right honorable, Paris, 1st Sept. 1599. O. S. I have received this morning these two enclosed letters from Mr. Lock, from whom I had not heard in two months before; and because I knew not of what importance they might be in these times of doubt, I thought good to send them away with speed, and have for that purpose entreated my cousin Cook to take pains to be the Messenger. We are full of bruits here, which come from Calais and the coast, that the Spanish fleet should be come into the narrow seas. But I had letters this morning from this court, which assure me there is nothing known or believed there, more than my Secretary advertised me in the letter I sent your honor with my last, so ill they are here advertised. I beseech your honor I may understand how matters go there, I shall be otherwise in great pain, and little reputation here. The King purposes shortly to license his counsel for a month, and to draw hitherward. The voyage of Lyons is notwithstanding very fresh in speech now again. The Pope hath promised the King to grant him a divorce, but it cannot be dispatched till the consistory assemble again, which will not be till October, by reason the cardinals are all abroad now for their pleasure. I have been troubled since my return to this town with a disease ordinary to strangers in this country, but I thank God I am now very well, and ready to perform any direction or commandment I shall receive. I understand by the merchants, they would undertake the payment of her Majesty's money in England without any loss, were it not for these troublesome times, which makes them afraid to take any money by exchange, for fear their respondents in England should fail them. I will deal with some in this town who hold correspondence with Corsini, and the answer I receive, I will certify with the first commodity. And so praying God to bless her Majesty's forces, and her royal person especially, whereof she cannot be too wary now, I most humbly take my leave. Your honor's, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
06 September 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_026
Right honorable, Paris the 6th of September 1599. O. S. I make no doubt but your honor is advertised continually from the governors of this coast, of such intelligence as they receive touching the Spanish fleet. For so hath the King commanded them, and so hath the governor of Dieppe assured me, that both he and others will do from time to time: so that I am sure her Majesty understands as much as they know, before this King himself. And other advertised of any account or certaynry, I dare avow they have not in this court; as your honor may well judge, by the contradiction of that they have delivered unto me in this matter, from my first coming hitherto. The advices they have lately received from the coast, hath made them again to change their mind, and to be of opinion that the fleet will come, and that it is far greater than they believed it to be. D 100. The Duke de Bouillon told my Secretary, that they were advertised that they consisted of 260 sail of all sorts, and that their design was to land about Bristol, or Milford Haven. But in very truth, I am verily persuaded that they know nothing, but rove at the matter altogether. For since I heard from the court, I received this enclosed from the premier president of Rouen, whereby your honor may see that now again upon the coast they are of another opinion; and yet I know this alarum at the court came from them. But this good is come of it, that it hath caused the King to hasten hitherward, and he is already come to Fontainebleau, and hath appointed his council to follow, and to be here, or at St. Germans the 20th of this month. Two days since, there came unto me one that belongs to the trésorier de l'espargne, that is to pay the 20000 crowns, to require the original bond to make an acquittance by. And therefore have refused to deliver the original; for the less cause they have to require it, the more jealous I am to deliver it. I had before showed the original to the trésorier himself, and since delivered him a copy attested by two notaries, in the presence of his deputy. To require it, the more jealous I am to deliver it. But when the counsel comes I hope we shall end this matter with reason. Your honor seeth what the premier president writes touching. Scotland. I assure you there are very strange bruits here of some z. Publtk q.Ierz.Khe. Danger to grow that way, w 209 Charles Paget assureth me, that there have been great practices used to win the King of Scotland, to join with the King of Spain against the Queen; and that if there be not some course taken to prevent it, he will sorely draw that way in the end. The Duke de Bouillon hath received intelligence, but I know not whence, that the King of Scotland hath proclaimed war against the Queen. Your honor can best consider of what consequence these matters are, and how they may be best prevented. Upon these bruits, I caused one who is inward with the ambassader of Scotland, to found him about these matters, but he pretended utterly to know nothing, saying that he hath not heard thence in two months. I find difficulty in procuring any man to undertake the matter your honor so much desired into Spain, because it is so full of danger, yet I do offer they should be largely considered. I will not give over the matter so, and am in hope to sit your honor at length, though I stay some time about it. I am persuaded Charles Paget is able to discover somewhat touching the King of Scotland, which would be worth the knowing; but without some assurance of that he affects, he is too cunning to open himself too far. That obtained, I am fully of opinion, that there may be good use made of him. There is a Scotch-man here called Bruce, a papist, but a good scholar, that is publishing a book against the Jesuits, and likewise the King's advocate, en la chambre de contes called Pasquier. They have both made means to me, to furnish them with matter against them. If it please you therefore to impart unto me any particularities of their lewd dealings against her Majesty, and her state, I think it might be to good purpose; considering that now their cause is in question, for their restitution, or perpetual exclusion. I understand there are 6000 Swiss lately levied among the petit cantons, 3000 for the Archduke, and 3000 for the Duke of Savoy. I hear also a report that the King of Spain is about to make a levy of 12000 Italians, the intention is not yet known, but supposed to be for the use of the Duke of Savoy, if he have need. When your honor is freed of this extraordinary care abowt the Spanish attempts, I hope you will be pleased to direct me, how I shall proceed in the matters I have negotiated here. And so, & c. Your honor's, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
08 September 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_027
Right honorable, Paris, 8 September 1599. O. S. I received this enclosed yesterday from Mr. Lock, and finding this bearer ready to return for England, I thought good to send it away by him. I spake lately with one that came from Rochelle, who told me that a captain of that town arrived there out of Spain upon Tuesday was sennight, and who reporteth that he had seen the fleet imbark, and had been amongst them, and left them under sail, and affirms for certain that they took their course for the islands. Charles Paget likewise advertised me this day, that he had spoken with a gentleman of his acquaintance who came very lately out of Spain, who confirmeth the same; how this agreeth with your other intelligences I know not, but I thought it my duty to advertise it as I understood of it. Here is much speech to our disgrace, that the galleys were suffered to pass so quietly to Sluys, especially seeing there was so good warning given of their approach, by the governors of these parts. Those which affect us are very sorry, and those which love us not, laugh us to scorn. I wrote unto your honor lately of the death of monsieur de la motte fenelon; I hear now that Monsieur de Rochepot governor of Anjou is nominated for the place, but makes great labor to avoid it. I beseech your honor to let me understand your pleasure touching Mr. Lock, how far I shall communicate of his employment with Monsieur de Villeroy. I have advertised what my conceit is of his disposition towards our state, your honor will be pleased to advise how much to trust him. Mr. Lock hath once or twice desired me to use Monsieur de Villeroy's means to Taxis the Spanish Ambassador to grant him a passport to go into Spain, which methinks is so senseless a thing to be moved, and so ready a way to cut his throat though it were obtained, as I have wished him never to think more of that course. It seems the gentleman is very desirous to do some services, but the difficulty is in the means. What your honor shall command me in furtherance of him, I will be ready to do the utmost. John musfy arrived here yesternight with a packet from the Ambassador, and another from la fontaine, and told me that in the Ambassador's packet there was a letter from her Majesty to the King. I would have been very glad, if it would have pleased your honor, to have used me for the delivery thereof, rather than their Ambassador. For my negotiation hitherto with the King, hath been, as your honor knows, most about an unpleasing subject, which would have been somewhat sweetened by the argument of this letter, containing as I suppose nothing but kindness, in answer to his kind letter to her Majesty. Besides I find monsieur de Villeroy's course to be this, that wherein he can use their own Ambassador, he will never use me, not so much as to communicate it with me, which I find very strange. And unless it please your honor to do the like with their Ambassador there, I see not how I shall remedy it; and continuing in that sort, I shall not be able to serve her Majesty, but with great disadvantage and disrepute. I understand by common fame and not otherwise, that there have been some commissioners in England from the Archduke, to treat of peace. But of that and all things concerning our state, I hope to hear some certainty by those letters from your honor, which musfy tells me are upon the way. In the mean time, & c. Your honor's, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
16 September 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_028
Right honorable, Paris 16th Sept. 1599. O. S. I understand by Musfy, who brought over a packet from Monsieur de Boissise, that he left one at Dover, that had another from your honor to me. But I hear of none such as yet, and therefore I would not longer differ to advertise your honor of that I take to be of importance for you to know, namely, that the Spanish fleet which was put to sea, and had taken their course for the islands, was forced by the weather to return to Ferrol, where it now remaineth. When I first received this intelligence, I was desirous to be better assured of it before I wrote it, and therefore went unto Monsieur Villeroy, who is now in this town with the rest of the council, to know whether he understood any such matter. He told me he had the day before received advertisement to the same purpose, and his opinion was, that they would dismiss their army, and attempt no more this year. His reasons were, that part of the Hollanders'fleet was already returned home in safety, and the rest gone to the indies and left the islands wholly. And as for the indian fleet which was now to return, it would be either saill on failli before they would come to their succor. But when I replied, that seeing that part of their purpose failed, they might perhaps pursue their other design, of attempting upon some part of England or Ireland, rather than lose the whole fruit of so great a charge; he answered nothing, but that he thought they would do nothing till the spring. Your honor hereupon can best consider, what probability there is that they will dismiss such an army of so great charge, and that hath raised so great an expectation, without attempting somewhat to the disturbance of their enemies. He told me also, that there were four galleys more to come into these parts, besides the six already arrived at Sluys. Of whose passage he spake with some tax to us, saying that they put on to the English shoare, thinking that the safer, because the other was kept by the Hollanders; which I had not heard before, although I had heard much more than I took any pleasure of. He told me also, that the King received very great contentment of a letter her Majesty had lately written to him. I said the King should always find her Majesty a very royal and honorable Princess, very ready to do him all kindness, and very grateful for that she received; and my hope was, she should find the like disposition in the King, according as I had ever given her assurance since my coming hither; and prayed him to concur with me in all good offices and endeavours to entertain this good correspondence between their majesties, which he said he would always be ready to do. I put him in mind that the time did now approach wherein he had promised by the answer he delivered me, to make known unto her Majesty what she should receive from the King this next year. I said it was a matter did much import her to know, and therefore prayed him if they had resolved of it, to impart it to me, that I might advertise her Majesty of it. His answer was, that these bruits and other occasions had so busied them, that they had not yet had leisure to finish that business, but that it was in hand, and as soon as any thing was done, I should be informed of it. I was likewise to visit the Chancellor, and solicited him in that matter of the English taken by those of Marseilles; whereof her Majesty had written unto the King, and the counsel had promised me to inform themselves, and to give me an answer. He told me the Secretary for that quarter had charge to inform himself in that cause, and that he would speak with him in it, and thereupon propose it unto the counsel. They both assured me of the King's great forwardness, to have employed both his forces and himself in her majesties aid if need had ben, and that it was the only cause of his return so soon into these parts, and so further if occasion had been. I perceive by them, that in the matter of the divorce they expect that the King shall receive very good satisfaction from Rome; for which purpose the Cardinal Joyeuse comes hither very shortly, pretending private affairs of his own, but not without commission, as the Chancellor confessed to me, to treat with the Queen, and to take her consent or confession, that so some forme of justice may be observed in the proceeding. The Chancellor told me, he understood that father Bennet a capuchin that went hence, was prisoner in England: and said that he was a principal dealer in that lewd practice about the demoniaque, and that he was in good hands now, where the truth of all might be known. I said it was true that such a one was taken and imprisoned, and if the King did require that he should be examined about it, I presumed the Queen would be willing to gratify him in that, as readily as in all other matters, wherein she might declare her affection towards him. To that he answered not in particular, but in General he recommended it, and acknowledged her Majesty's good will and good offices towards the King. This I have thought good to certify, because I have once before moved your honor in this matter as of myself. Mr. Edmonds can very well inform your honor of that practice about the demoniaque, wherein the Capuchin late Duke of Joyeuse was the principal actor, and this Bennet and another, his principal adherents; and some great lay-men thought to be de la party. I send your honor herewith a short narration of the manner of the late practice upon Turin, and the discovery of it. Since I understand, that the Captain beaulien there mentioned, is executed. The matter of the Marquisate of Saluces stands in the same terms it did *. There is now a speech that it should be delivered in deposit unto the Pope till it be judged; wherein I hear there are so many difficulties proposed, as it will hardly take place. It seems the King will have great patience, and bear much before he draw his sword again. For the matter of the jesuits it is not yet resolved, they were heard at Blois, and put over again till the counsels coming to this town. I hear the King has taken some new offense against them, because they have entered into their college at Dijon in Burgundy without his leave, upon some secret favor of the parliament there. The Cardinal andreas saluted the King at halier, monsieur de vitrie's house, and so passed along to Orleans, and from thence down the river of Loire with a purpose to see those towns, and afterwards to take his journey towards Lyons, and from thence into Spain to Saragossa, where the King lies. His brother the Marquis of Burgau is also certainly gone thither, in the company of the Count of lodron, as I wrote before. I wrote in my last of a levy of 3000 Swiss for the Archduke, and as many for the Duke of Savoy. I hear now that the cantons have made a stay of both, upon fear belike to discontent this King at this time, being upon the point to receive some satisfaction from him in part, for the great sums of money, which he and the last King did owe them. Of the levy in Italy whereof I wrote, I neither hear confirmation nor controulment. I have written unto your honor heretofore of the great number of priests and jesuits which are now in England. I am assured by w.209. Charles Paget and others, that their number groweth. If it please you to give me commission to deal with some in this town, and to assure them of somewhat from her Majesty to stay themselves upon, I believe I should be able to discover their nests and haunts. I would it would please your honor to be a means to her Majesty to make some trial of Paget; I think she would not repent her of it. I have at length understood of one, that is willing to accept the employment your honor intendeth into Spain. He hath sometimes been a Priest, but has since become of the religion, and married: yet for his more safety, and to avoid suspicion in his abode there, he will take upon him the habit, and for need the function of a Priest, which will also give him credit and trust there, and means thereby to do the better service. He hath been already sundry times employed by this King, first at Brussels during the league for two or three years together; and afterwards twice into Calais, while the Spaniards held it. Language he hath none perfect but the French. Spanish and Italian he understands, but speaketh not; but makes account within three months to speak Spanish sufficiently for his purpose. His demand was 600 crowns by the year, but in the end he was contented to accept 400 crowns: hoping that if his service was acceptable, that her Majesty would bestow some small stipend upon him at his return, whereupon he might stay himself and his family. He is recommended unto me for a faithful honest man whom I may trust. I have promised him answer within twenty days; and if he be not used, I have promised him somewhat for his stay. For if I had not at this instant met with him, he had been gone into the low-countries, to be employed by monsieur de la Noue. I beseech your honor I may understand your pleasure herein within the time limited. And so, & c. Your honor's, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
24 September 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_029
Right honorable, Paris, 24th Sept. 1599. O. S. TOuching that part of your honor's letter which concerneth my allowance for intelligences, I most humbly thank your honor for the offer of your favor therein towards me. I will press nothing, but what may stand with her Majesty's liking and your honor's; yet I could allege great reason, why neither Sir Edward Stafford, nor any of those that went before him ever since the Queen's reign, had more need of allowance in this kind then I. For although those times were more dangerous, and fuller of practice, yet the Queen had then an assured party within this realm, whom it imported for their own preservation to be vigilant over all things that passed here, and to communicate their intelligence to her Majesty upon whom their safety depended; so as her ministers needed not take any great care, or be at any great charge for the matter, for it was brought home to them; but now that side hath no more need of her Majesty, they are so far from offering any intelligence, that they shun all communication with her majesties ministers, and are afraid of nothing more, then that it should be thought they have any correspondence with her. Besides Sir, I do not succeed an Ambassador who hath settled any means of intelligence here; but a gentleman, who having no allowance for it, was forced to supply that want by the acquaintance and confidence he had gotten in his long abode here, which he could not transfer to another. At least if these reasons will not serve, to equal my occasions to Sir Edward Stafford and those that went before him, yet surely there can be no difference alleged between these times, and those wherein Sir Anthony Mildmay served, or if any, the disadvantage must be confessed to be in these; for then the King was not established as he is now, but had continual need of her Majesty, and was therefore enforced to use a more respective and real proceeding towards her, than she shall find hereafter. Therefore I would be glad as my burden and charge is equal, so to be made equal likewise in the allowance; least the diminution thereof beginning in me, be made a note of evil service, and so remain a continual taxe upon me hereafter. But as in taking upon me this employment I chiefly relied upon your honor's commandment and comfort, and put my credit, estate ,- and fortune into your hands, so I do refer my self to be disposed of both in this, and any thing else that may concern me, by your honor's direction; and do therefore humbly pray, that if you think that allowance of 400l. A year too much, which was made to Sir Anthony Mildmay, it would please you to set down in certainty what you think good, that knowing it, I may not offend in exceeding it. Touching the reviving or continuance of the treaty of Blois, I am of opinion, it will not now suffice that the King signify by his letter or Ambassador that he is willing to observe it, but it must be newly sworn on both sides as a new treaty, for the former is absolutely determined, for want of that signification on the King's part within the year after his predecessor's death. I believe the King will urge to have the staple at Quillebeuf, which he hath newly fortified and called Henrienburgh, and hath a great desire to do it good but our merchaunts have no liking to remove from Rouen, and think it would much hinder their commodity. I sent your honor a note of the grievances and impositions raised upon our commodities since 1572, which is wholly contrary to the treaty. Her Majesty on the other side as I am informed hath raised little or nothing, and the greatest matter they can complain of will be some few licences, which I suppose her Majesty will make no great difficulty to revoke, rather then that they should hinder so great a benefit to her subjects. And so hoping to receive answer of my letter touching the 20000 crowns, and the party I have stayed to be employed into Spain, within the time limited. I humbly take my leave, & c. Your honor's, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
24 September 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_030
Right honorable, Paris 24th Sept. 1599. O. S. YOUR dispatch of the 28th of August, came not to my hands till the 17th of September in the evening: neither came it by the party your honor mentioned therein, whom your honor also commended to my care to be furthered in his journey and employment by me, but by one Honiman who brought likewise letters from the governor of Dieppe to Monsieur Villeroy concerning some service, whereunto I procured him answer I hope to her Majesty's contentment, and dispatched him away in haste upon Thursday morning. This Mr. Honiman told me, that luff who should have brought this packet, took shipping directly for Bayonne as his best course, which dischargeth me of a great part of the care your honor committed to me to procure his safe passage thither. For the other point of procuring him to be commended to Monsieur Grammont, I will do it with all the dexterity and caution I can: wherein I assure your honor I dare not use monsieur de Villeroy; and for the old woman, I am afraid to trust her with it, and besides I hear she is retired from hence. But I will advise with d 100 the Duke de Bouillon, of the best means to do it, and therein I must be driven to deal plainly with him, for he will think it strange that I should be so careful to recommend a scott, except it be for some service to be done for her Majesty. Mr. Honniman had set down a course which he saith he did acquaint your honor with, to have obtained letters of naturalization for him of this King as for a Scot, supposing it would make his disguising more probable, if he were brought in question. But having received no such direction from your honor, I disliked that course, both for the incongruity of it, that I should have laboured in such a matter for a scott, (there being an Ambassador of that nation here, which would have made the matter very suspicious ;) and also because it must have passed under the great seal, and consequently through too many hands to have been kept secret. I guess, by reason your honor hath employed so many already that way, that you will have no need or use of him that I advertised you of in my last. Yet all qualities requisite in such an employment considered, I think you should not easily find a fitter. I will not therefore absolutely discharge him, till I hear of an answer from your honor. Monsieur de Villeroy told me the last time I spake with him, that her Majesty had imparted unto their Ambassador, what had passed between her and him that came out of the low-countries about the treaty of peace. I have in former communication both with the King and him, signified in generality, that if the treaty proceeded, her Majesty would be very willing and desirous to receive the King's advice in it; that as their interests were sincerely joined, and in a sort common, so their proceedings likewise might be by common advice and council. I could never have other answer but this, that when her Majesty should require it, the King would not refuse to give her his faithful advice; but he knew her to be so wise, and so well assisted by wise council, as she little needed his. If her Majesty's pleasure be that I shall more particularly urge it, it may please your honor to direct me in what sort, and upon what particularities. I dare not in a matter of this weight interpose any of my own conjectures; but surely I am very jealous that this counsel hath a great design upon this peace, supposing that her Majesty will make it without the states, and that they will be forced thereupon to cast themselves into this King's arms. I have many motives to be of this opinion. First, I am informed by good means, that when your honor came over here, with commission and purpose to have entered into the treaty of peace jointly with this King, if the States should have been contented to have treated likewise: the King did underhand dissuade them from peace, upon assurance of a standing supply from him of 200000 crowns yearly, besides other secret favors. This he hath not performed since, but only so much as might keep them out of despair, but not out of necessity. Again, they do what they can here to put a jealousy into the states heads of her Majesty, that she will abandon them. They seek to break off the intelligence between her and them, and have in a manner expressly forbidden their Agent here, to have too straight communication with me, or to let me know how matters pass between them; in the mean time the King fills them full of verbal comfort that he will not forsake them, whosoever else do. All which in my poor opinion doth infer thus much, that they would not have them make peace, but yet they would be content to sever them from her Majesty, and that they should depend only upon French hopes and amity. I remember that monsieur la fontaine conferring with me at large the same day I came from London of these and other matters, told me, that the King would willingly join with the Queen in their maintenance, because she knew his undertaking it alone might breed some jealousy between them: but assuredly he was resolved that it was necessary by all means that they should be upholden; and if the Queen would not join in it he would do it alone, rather than they should shrinke or yield under the burden.. The states Agent hath directly told me, the King's drift is to sever them from this straight dependence and amity, which they now bold with her Majesty. If this be not prevented, your honor can best judge of what consequence and danger it may be. For surely, more than in the King's own inclination, (which perhaps is no very sure anker neither ,) you can make no foundation in this amity. They which saw and heard, what rejoicing was here generally at our imaginary danger, upon the rumor of the Spaniards landing in England, might easily conceive what affection they bare in their hearts towards us. Besides, their careless proceeding to give her Majesty any contentment, in her just demands and so important occasions, argueth their little regarde of her, and their small desire of her prosperity. I have had it often answered me, when I have urged the Queen's great merits, as a motive to them to give her good contentment in those things she required of them, that in doing that, she did as much assure her own estate as pleasure them. But that which chiefly makes me to mistrust this amity, is the drift that in my poor judgment may be discovered daily in the chief ministers and counselors here, to work a persuasion and hope in the King, that he may become head of the Catholic party throughout Christendom; for the obtaining whereof, there is no doubt they will likewise persuade him, that he must estrange himself from all show and effects of friendship to those of the other side, and to entertain straight amity only with the catholiques. Hence comes the paring of his last edict granted to them of the religion, in such sort as it is far worse than that of 77, which was granted them by the last King in a time when they were exceeding weak, and at discord among themselves. Hence comes also the manifest neglect and injury to them of Geneva, not only omitting them out of his treaty with the Duke of Savoy, though his predecessor had taken them into his protection, but in refusing to pay them that which they Lent him, and disbursed for his service. Hence the inclination, and almost the resolution to readmit the Jesuits, though greatly resisted by this court of parliament. And of this very root I suppose that great coldness to arise, which I have found in all things that I have dealt in since my coming. To all which, if the King's inclination be opposed, and this late kind offer to her Majesty; I answer the matter is not yet ripe, nor thoroughly wrought, but what may not ministers so affected work in time, with a Prince that disburdeneth himself of all affairs as much as he can, and casteth the care upon them. Besides your honor remembreth the saying of tacitus, beneficia eo usque lata sunt dum videntur exolvi posse; ubi multum antevenêre, pro gratia odium redditur. I cannot forget however, in my first audience the King told me, upon occasion of some speech which then passed between us, that he stood in as good terms at Rome, and had as good credit as the King of Spain. Pardon me I humbly beseech your honor, that I am entered so far into this argument, for though it belong rather to my place to advertise, than to infer or to enforce, yet my zeal to her Majesty's service cannot contain itself within ordinary bounds, and methinks I see somewhat more than I can by a bare advertisement explaine. What I have written I beseech your honor to keep to yourself, and to interpret it if I erre, as an error of mistake, and not of presumption. I received within these two days, this book which I send your honor; the + author of it is now sick of an ague, which he fears may turn into a consumption, for the recovery whereof he is very desirous to go into England, and hath made means unto me to procure your honor's passport to return thither and to present himself to your honor; which perhaps he intends not, without some pourpose of offering his service further unto you. I beseech your honor to let me understand your pleasure, both touching him and. Charles Paget. Concerning the matter whereof I wished that Bennet the capuchin should be examined, Mr. Edmonds can very fully inform your honor. But for the particularities which may most import the King to know, I will inform my self as soon as I may, and advertise your honor thereof. For the posts which I have dispatched since my coming, I assure your honor except one or two, they could have little business else but what I delivered them, for I dispatched them upon the sudden, and other means than by the posts I have none sometimes in two months together, and those I have in that sort, I find are very slow. But if your honor think well of that uncertain and slow means of conveyance of letters, I will conform myself to your pleasure therein hereafter, though I am sure that my advertisements will be very stale by this means before they come, which perhaps will be imputed to my negligence. And so, & c. Your honor's, & c. HENRY NEVILLE. P. S. Monsieur Villeroy in my last conference with him, told me he understood we were towards a peace in Ireland, and that Tyronne offered parley. I did rather take it for a scorn than for a truth, but I replied nothing, because I had not then received your honor's letters, and knew not what he might have received in his packet from Monsieur de Boissise.
26 September 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_031
Right honorable, Paris 26th Sept. 1599. O. S. I received your honor's letter with her Majesty's to this King enclosed upon Monday at noon being the 24th of this month, having the morning before written by Musfy unto you; and because I understood that the King was at Malesherbes, and was therefore uncertain of my audience, I sent away my Secretary presently with the letter to monsieur de Villeroy to Fontainebleau as your honor commanded me. I received his answer this afternoon, which I send herewith, which confirmed what I have heretofore written, that where he may use Monsieur de Boissise, he will impart nothing to me. Your honor I hope will use the like measure, or else my disadvantage will be great. Your honor shall likewise receive herewith, a copy of a letter from the first president of Aix to the King, touching the prise of an English ship made by those of Marseilles, about which her Majesty wrote unto him. It seems they mean to insist upon two points, the one, the town was not then in the King's obedience, and consequently discharged of all things done then, by the King's pardon granted upon their coming in. The other, that the prise made by her Majesty's ship of theirs which went to Newhaven was not lawful, because there was at that time free trade between the English and the Marseillians. For the former, it is a point by all means to be insisted upon, for otherwise we shall continually be choked with that answer, and shall be without remedy in most of the complaints which I have seen, the wrongs being chiefly done by them who were at that time of the league; whom although the King night pardon for offenses done against him, yet he could not pardon those that were committed against his allies; or if he will, he must of his own make good the damages. Therefore I beseech your honor to be well advised of this point, and to insist upon it, and rather than fail, to make stay of execution of judgment given upon their complaints in England, till you see how we shall be dealt with here; otherwise I foresee plainly that we shall be at an after deal. For the second point, I have already answered it, and told them, that the Queen's ship did not make that prise as upon the King's enemies or rebels, but as upon his subjects that disobeyed his proclamation, by trafficking with leaguers, and consequently incurred the penalty of confiscation, which thereby he inflicted upon them; and that it concerned the King in honor, to justify that which was done in his service and by his commandment. Your honor will I hope deal roundly with the French Ambassador upon these points, and direct me how I shall further proceed, both about this and the rest of the matters which I have begun to negotiate here, namely about the demand of money for the next year. I willed my Secretary to know of monsieur de Villeroy what he understood more of the return of the Spanish fleet into Ferrol, and it seemeth by his speech to him, that his advertisement came but from monsieur de Sourdiac; but to me, I assure your honor, he said he had received it out of Spain. He saith now, he heard they were dispersed by tempest, but nothing of their return thither. I know not what his meaning is by these forgetfulnesses or rather contradictions, but I hope your honor is too well advertised, to build upon those that shall come from hence for Spanish matters. The Cardinal Joyeuse is expected this night at Fontainebleau, where his lodgings are already prepared. The proposition presented to the Pope by Monsieur de Sillery, for the separation for the King from his wife, as I understand, was committed to consideration in full consistory to eight cardinals, + whereof Bellarmine was one, and the Archbishop of Florence, late Legate here another; he, for his experience in these parts, the other, for his sufficiency in learning. It seems they seek to have this marriage pronounced esse nullum. For a simple divorce (which the Church of Rome doth peremptorily defend to be à thoro non à vinculo) will not give place to a second marriage. + The Queen hath been often solicited to acknowledge, that the marriage was enforced by fear and never consummated between them, to which she protesteth never to condescend; so that it is likely many more difficulties will arise in this matter than yet are thought of, or can be determined in so short a time as the King at first did expect. I send your honor a letter from Mr. Locke which I received this morning. D 100 the Duke de Bouillon hath been hitherto at Fontainebleau, but this day returned to this town as I hear. I will speak with him about Luff whom your honor recommended unto me. And so craving pardon for my shortness at this time, by reason of some domestic misfortune in the loss of my son lately born, I humbly take my leave. Your honor's, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
05 October 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_032
Right honorable, Paris 5th Oct. 1599. O. S. I wrote unto you by Simons, and sent you the answer I received from Monsieur de Villeroy to her Majesty's letter, and likewise to the offer I made to have Bennet the Capuchin examined. I understand since by the Duke de Bouillon, that the Irishmen were set at liberty before that letter came; and for the examination of Bennet, he told me, the King would gladly it were done, but would not be seen in it. I answered, if I might have instructions delivered me whereupon to examine him, it should be done without the knowledge of the King's dealing in it; he promised to furnish me with them, but hath not yet done it. Your honor may see how fearful the King is to displease them of the Church.
Since Mr. Honniman's departure, I received advertisement from him, that by his means the governor of Dieppe had imprisoned at Tréport a French captain, who had served some time in a ship of Dunkirk, and therein done many spoils to our nation; but he wrote me neither the name of the man or the ship, which was an error in him. Notwithstanding, upon that ground I had I dealt with the council, and have obtained letters to the governor to proceed to inform against him, and if he be found guilty, to do justice upon him. I was the more earnest to prosecute this matter, because I am informed'tis an ordinary matter for Frenchmen to serve in ships of Dunkirk, and sometimes to take upon them the name of Dunkirkers when they be none, thereby to have the freer scope against us: so that we are daily spoiled by both, not only to the loss of her Majesty's subjects, especially the coast-men, but to her great dishonor, who was wont to be mistress of the seas, and is now affronted by every base fisher town. I do labor therefore to have some exemplary justice done upon this man, as well to bridle others who will take that course hereafter, as to recall those that are already in it; and for that purpose I have entreated a merchant at Rouen to go to Dieppe to solicit the cause, and to produce what informations he can against him. And if he cannot be sufficiently furnished here, I have willed him to make bold to signify so much unto your honor, and to pray that either from Mr. Honniman, or by some other means from the coast, he may be furnished with matter against him. I have also willed him to deal with the governor for the apprehension of some others, of whom I have like information; and I beseech your honor to deal earnestly with the Ambassador there, that there may be some public proclamation made for the recalling of all such as serve in the galleys or ships of the enemies, upon pain of confiscation; for by Frenchmen comes a great part of our mischief daily, who pass under the name of Dunkirkers. I mean to deal to the same effect with the council here, and the more reason we have to insist hereupon, because as I learn by one which is familiar with the Spanish Ambassador here, that Spinola hath undertaken, by promise to the King of Spain, to build ten galleys more this winter in the Low Countries, which no doubt he hopes to furnish (chiefly at least) with pilots out of France; in the mean time he is captain of these six, and hath allowance for payment of 1000 men.
The Duke de Bouillon hath undertaken the commending of Mr. Luff to Monsieur de Grammont in as ample manner as I desired. The Cardinal Joyeuse having been a week with the King at Fontainebleau, goeth shortly to the Queen, and with him the Bishop of Arles come lately from Rome. The Cardinal comes with very large commission in that cause, and it is thought it will shortly be determined; for which purpose the Queen Dowager at the King's entreaty goeth likewise to the Queen, to dispose her to conformity in such things as are required of her; whereunto fear of worse which she begins to apprehend, will in the end persuade her.
The King hath now at length won the fort at Malesherbes which he hath so long laid siege to; the conditions are 100000 crowns in ready money, and an yearly pension: The next news we shall hear I think will be, that she is made Countess of Moret, and her father Marshal of France, by the resignation of the old Marshal de Retz. What alteration this may breed in the King's marriage is very doubtful; for my part, if the divorce were once thoroughly dispatched, and she with child, I think verily he would marry her. In the mean time I assure myself he will make no haste to any other, though that marriage of Florence be still in speech to content the world, and to draw on the divorce the more easily.
The restitution of the Jesuits goeth on with full sails in the jurisdiction of all the parlements but Paris, where it is thought the King being turned, will likewise turn those Messieurs too in the end. The reasons that have wrought this alteration in the King are partly these; a need he hath now of the Pope, who labors it very hotly; but chiefly as I conceive, the drift and scope of his principal counselors whereof I wrote in my letter by Musfy, and of which I think we shall see more effects daily. The Pope to effect his purpose herein the better, hath assured the King, that he will so bridle them with orders and ecclesiastical censures, as he shall not need to doubt they will exceed the bounds of their calling, or intermeddle with matters of state. They do here likewise speak of a restraint to be joined to their re-admission, that they shall not be capable to receive any gift or legacy above a small value. One great difficulty ariseth, how they shall be restored to their colleges, lands and goods, which in divers places have been confiscated and sold to the King's use.
There are two in this town (as I wrote lately) writing bitterly against them. This day Pasquier was with me again, to request some instructions of their proceedings against her Majesty's person and her estate, and particularly of their late dealing in Spain with Squire for the poisoning of her. If it please your honor to afford me an abstract of their bad practices, set down by some of her Majesty's learned council, I think it might be to good purpose.
The estate of the King's finances for the next year is not finished, therefore I cannot yet advertise what her Majesty shall look for from them; but I solicit them as much as with any good manners I may, to have a due regard of her. The Duke of Bouillon told me, that if the Spanish invasion had proceeded, the King was resolved to set all other respects aside, and to have furnished her with a good round sum, which indeed I urged much at that instant, instead of his other succors offered. But of this your honor may believe as much or as little as you will, and these words now cost them nothing. All my care is that her Majesty may receive some good satisfaction the next year, and in some reasonable time, to make use of before summer be too far spent for her wars in Ireland; although these men here will needs persuade me, that things grow near a pacification there, and that Tyrone offers to come in. They also tell me, that her Majesty and the Archduke intend to send both shortly to the King to desire a convenient place in his kingdom to meet and treat of peace in: But I deny all that I hear not from your honor.
The matter of the Marquisate depends as it did, but the King showeth himself unwilling to put it into the Pope's hands. The Duke of Savoy offered him in exchange Bresse and Savoy, but he will not accept it. Cardinal Andreas is gone to be Governor of Milan, and hath therein left many deceived, who thought rather he had gone into Portugal. Of the German army we hear nothing but shame, for their weak and irresolute proceeding. They have levied the siege they had undertaken, and have at length joined the relics which remain with the States, having purchased dishonor with a very great charge.
I have at length received the 20000 crowns in this town, as I was enforced through the unreasonableness of the Treasurer of the Épargne with whom I had to deal: I expect your honor's directions to whom I shall deliver it. I could put it into the hands of three Italians here, called Spada, Segso, and Ferrarino, after the rate I wrote of, but I dare do nothing before I hear from your honor. And if you shall direct me to deal with these Italians, it were good first to know, whether Corsini and Ricci with whom they have correspondency, will accept their bills for such a sum or nay.
The parliaments of Brittany, Toulouse, and Bordeaux, stand hitherto very obstinately against the edict for the liberty of religion, neither is there hope that hereafter they will be induced to admit of it. The Marquis of Pisani governor of the young Prince of Condé is lately dead, into whose charge is substituted Chevalier Rambouillet. This week the Count de Lude is set forward to Brussels, to congratulate with the Archduke and the Infanta for their safe arrival in those parts.
I understand that the Duke of Arschot is sent from the Archduke and Infanta to treat with the States of a peace, or at the least to endeavor to induce them to treat to that purpose, whereof I rest assured your honor hath more perfect advertisement.
Out of Hungary we hear that the Emperor and Turk do treat of a peace. The Cham of Tartary is the mean between them, who useth in this negotiation Paleologo. Deputies on both parties are appointed for the treaty, and motion hath been made, that acts of hostility in this interim might be suspended. And so for this time I humbly take my leave, & c. Your honor's, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
11 October 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_033
Right honorable, Paris, 11th Oct. 1599. O. S. I received your honor's letters of the 25th of September the 6th of October, and the morrow after, Peter Brown arrived with your letter of the 28th of September. By that which brown brought your honor hath imparted unto me the substance of the parley between the Earl of Essex and Tyrone, for which I most humbly thank you, and beseech God there may grow a good conclusion thereof to her Majesty's quiet and contentment. That opinion of your honors I hold for an oracle, that rumores non funt pouendi ante falutem, and that tuta are to be preferred before speciosa. I assure your honor, that by compounding these matters in any sort, your honor shall greatly establish her Majesty's reputation in these parts, where it is held for a maxime, that the honor of a Prince consisteth en bien faisant fes affairs, and where the opinion hath been conceived and delivered, not without shew of rejoycing by some principal persons, that her Majesty would never see an end of those troubles in her time. The King himself, at my audience at Orleans, used these speeches unto me, talking of the war of Ireland: the Queen your Mistress thought I dealt too basely in making composition with my subjects, and buying my peace; we shall see whether shall speed better, she with her gloriousness, or I with that she calls baseness. The rest I certified at that time: this I forbore, because I would not breed offense. But I see, howsoever tho'for their own interest they would be loth Spain should prevail against us, yet they would be contented we should be humbled, and kept as low as might be; as well in envy to our prosperity, as upon a desire that we may be enforced to stand in more respective and regardful terms towards them. But if this pacification succeed, you shall greatly disappoint them, and find that they will treat with you with much better respect: the want whereof hitherto, considering her Majesty's great merits and quality, I must confess, hath moved me to some indignation. I do not doubt also, but you shall find great advantage by it in your treaty with Spain, when they shall see you treat with them upon pleasure, and not upon necessity. By your other letter of the 25th of September, I understand her majestic's pleasure touching Charles Paget, which I made known unto him in such sort as I was therein directed. I found the man exceeding sorrowful, and to bewail very much the loss of his hope therein, the rather for that he hath been born in hand these two years, (by such as he used for his means) that her Majesty was very graciously enclined to have taken compassion upon him; but for the matter thus he answered. That if it would have pleased her Majesty to have pardoned him, and thereby given him the right and quality of her subject, which he stands now deprived of, as he might have justified whatsoever he would have done for her service with good credit and reputation, so he would have done it faithfully, and not only to have reavealed whatsoever either himself hath treated with others, or others with him, or whatsoever he had understood to be treated by others against her Majesty; but also to have employed his credit and acquaintance in foreign parts, for the discovery of any practice that might be used hereafter. But not standing in the quality of her subject, nor in any assurance of her Grace or protection, to serve in the quality of a spe, to the prejudice of them from whom he was to receive maintenance and protection, it was a thing he could not do either with credit or safety. And prayed me to assure my self, that it was not want that he either felt or feared, that had moved him to seek her Majesty's Grace and favor; but a remorse of conscience, and a desire to end his days with that peace and satisfaction of mind, that he died in the obedience of his natural Prince, and that before his death he had done her some service. Which though he was not so happy to attain unto, yet it was a great quieting to his conscience that he had sought it, and failing of it, though he should be enforced to accept the offers of other princes that were made him for his maintenance, (which must needs tie him to a duty and service towards them ,) yet it should be ever with the same mind and respect he hath always born to her Majesty; namely, to oppose himself as he hath often done, and to hinder as much as lay in him, all violent courses against her person or her estate: and though he should be never so well accommodated in the service of any other Prince, yet whensoever God shall move her Majesty to take any compassion upon him, he would leave all to come to prostrate himself at her feet. I replied not much unto him, because I found him resolute not to deal in that kind I proposed, only I promised at his request to relate his answer. I have according to your commandment sent over the party that I have stayed to be employed into Spain. I have made him bearer of these my letters, and have given him 30 crowns for the charge of his journey. He doth not require to have his money before hand, except it be some reasonable portion to carry him thither, and to maintain him till a supply come. It seems he would assign a good part of it to be received quarterly by his wife, whom he intends to leave at Dieppe, unless your honor think better he should leave her in England for a plea of his fidelity, which he will be contented to do if you please. For his ability to judge of warlike preparations, although his profession were not that way, yet his employment by this King sundry times, and for that purpose chiefly, is an argument that there was some sufficiency discerned in him. He is born a Frenchman, upon the frontiers of Picardy towards Artois. I am assured by such as recommended him unto me, of his faithfulness and honesty, the rest your honor can best judge of. For the 28000 crowns, I stay the delivery of it to these Italians till I may hear from your honor that Corsini and Ricci will accept their bills; for the other 2000 crowns I will be answerable for them, and have already given order for the payment of so much into the exchequer. I beseech your honor to speak to the Lord treasurer that my entertainment be not stayed hereafter as it hath been. By that time this letter come to your hands there will be three months owing me, whereas by the privy seal, I was to be allowed ever three months beforehand. Surely Sir if my entertainment be stopped, I cannot continue here; and even this stay of it already hath put me much to my shifts. For the money that is promised from hence this next year, I can yet say no answer: I was yesterday with Monsieur de Rosny about it, but he could give me no answer. I think if it would please her Majesty to write to the King of it, it would work some good effect. Out of Spain I understand, that of the fleet which went from Ferrol the 25th of August, consisting of fifty three ships, whereof thirty were galleons, there returned seven driven back by tempest, whereof the Admiral was one with her masts broken; the rest pursued their voyage towards the terçeras, where they were in hope to meet the Hollanders'fleet. The King departed from Saragossa the 24th of September stilo novo, and was expected at the Escurial within ten days after. The city of Saragossa, to obtain the King's coming thither presented him with 100000 crowns, besides 20000 ducats to the Queen for chopines, and 6000 to the Marquis of Denia. The King at his being there, was contented that the heads set up upon the town-house in the last rebellion should be taken down, and the houses re-edified which were then demolished. Antonio de Perez I hear is restored to his lands, and his wife and children all at liberty. I have secret intelligence that there is some unkindness growing between the King of Spain and the Duke of Savoy, and the Duke thereupon begins to make some ovetures to this King to the prejudice of Spain; as I learn more of it I will advertise your honor. I hear a bruit that the Earl of Essex is returned, and come already to the court, and that there are commissioners arrived in England from the low countries. Your honor's nephew Mr. William Cecyll arrived here on Sunday last, and went away the next day towards Lyons. The King is not yet come from Orleans, whether he went upon Sunday last to meet with the Queen-dowager; but upon Thursday or Friday next he is expected at St. Germans, and shortly after here in this town. The matter between Prince Joinville and monsieur le grande, hath occupied the constable and marshalls of France a good time; at length they have set down an order, that Joinville should say to the other, that he is sorry for that he did, and should pray him to forgive it, which I hear Joinville refuseth, and so, & c. Your honor's, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
22 October 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_034
Right honorable, Paris 22d of October 1559, o. S. Wrote so lately unto your honor by him that I sent over to be employed into Spain, that I have not much to add now; yet the opportunity of this bearer's return provoked me not to be altogether silent. I do first therefore acknowledge the receipt of your honor's letter which he brought of the 8th of October, and do most humbly thank you for the advertisements therein contained. The news of the pacification of Ireland (for so it is believed here) hath been current here a good while, but I do not think that the other of my Lord's restraint is yet known, at least within these two days I am sure it was not. I am very glad to perceive by your honor's letter, that your resolution continueth to accept of the rebel's submission upon any tolerable conditions; in my poor opinion her Majesty will find infinite advantage in it, especially for her reputation abroad, which was mightily impeached by the conceit men had generally received, of the irrecoverableness of that kingdom. The Ambassador of Venice came purposely to congratulate with me of it, and said he had dispatched of purpose to Venice with the advertisement; where he assured me it would be most acceptable news, in respect of the danger and consequence they did apprehend might grow of that war to her Majesty's estate; and he added this epiphonema (which I believe to be true) that states are governed by realities and not by punctilios's, and that the Queen did shew true judgment and wisdom not to formalize too much upon the outward appearance of matters, but to establish her peace by any means, wherein consisted indeed her true honor and prosperity. The constable and the Duke of Bouillon came likewise to visit me since the arrival of this news, and both spoke with me to the same purpose. So that your honor sees what the opinion of all men is here for the point of honor, which being a matter wholly consisting in opinion, the true conceit of it is the General conceit; and therefore as I said, I am exceeding glad that her Majesty's resolutions rend that way. For the matter of the capuchin, the Duke of Bouillon told me, the cause why he had hitherto given me no instructions as he promised me, was the sickness of the Lieutenant criminel who had dealt in those examinations: but that now he was almost recovered, and I should hear from him. I understand for certain, that both Bennet and Campbell (who was taken with him) were sent hence, and furnished with necessaries by the Ambassador of Scotland, and that Campbell knows much of his secrets. The cause of their sending, was to second a project they have (which is greatly favoured and laboured by the Ambassador of Scotland ,) to introduce a liberty of religion into Scotland; for which purpose there were two sent thither a little before my coming hither, the one called the Laird of Ponington, the other a Priest a Highland-man called MacVoigh or some such Irish name. Their return is shortly expected, and I am promised to have some understanding of the success of their employment there. It is a thing much laboured, and greatly feared, by the best affected to that nation, it were a dangerous president for their neighbours. I beseech you Sir, let me know if Bennet confess any thing about Charles Drury. Out of the low-countries I understand, there are two galleys building at Sluce and two at Dunkirk; there is an expectation likewise of more to come out of Spain this next spring. The Spanish army is much discontented, and being commanded to muster refused it flatly, till they were paid their arrearages unto a certain time. To the requisition of the States of Brabant for the dismission of the Spaniards, the Infanta hath answered, that she cannot do it, unless they will undertake the burden and charge of the war, for the King of Spain will be at no charge any longer, if the Spaniards be sent out of the country. She hath also demanded of them, an increase of their ordinary contributions, for the maintenance of her state and port; pretending that by reason of the separation of the other provinces, and the loss of that revenue which they yielded, she shall not be otherwise able to uphold her state, according to her dignity. These be very offensive propositions, which together with the Archduke's unpleasing carriage of himself, discontent very many, especially the nobility; whom somewhat to content another way, he hath obtained the order toison d'or for the Duke of Arschot, the Prince of Orange, the Marquis of Havre, Count Egmont, and one or two more. I understand they have a design to build as much shipping as they can in the river of Sluce, wherein they intend to proceed, though they should make peace with us. The Duke of Mercur is arrived at Vienna with 200 gentlemen in his train, intending to employ himself in those wars against the Turk; where notwithstanding it is believed that matters are growing towards a pacification, and that the deputies are already assembled about it. The General of the Cordeliers, otherwise called Patriarch of Constantinople arrived here upon Friday last, with a Secretary of the Duke of Savoy's called Roncas, who hath been oft employed here. Their coming is to propound unto the King an exchange of other seigniories for the Marquisate, or that he will be contented to put it in deposit in the Pope's hands till it be judged. The opinion is the King will agree to neither, and that he doth temporize till the matter of his divorce be thoroughly dispatched, minding afterwards to shew himself more warm in that of the Marquisate. The discontentment of the Duke of Savoy against the King of Spain, and the overtures thereupon made to this King, is judged to be but a cunning, and therefore embraced by this King accordingly. The quarrel between the Prince of Joinville and monsieur le grand, was ended yesterday, for the finishing whereof the constable, the marshals de Bouillon, de Biron, and d'Ornano met at Villette, a village within a mile of this town: and thither came from St. Denis the Prince Joinville, accompanied with the dukes of Guise, de Maine, and de Nemours; and monsieur le grande from this town, accompanied with the Duke of Trémouille, the Count de Rochepot (who goeth into Spain ,) and Monsieur de Liancourt, premier Esquire. The conditions were first signed by both parties, and afterwards read, and thereupon they both embraced with some words of compliments. Notwithstanding, the King is not yet appeased for the affront done to himself therein, but hath willed that the Prince de Joinville shall absent himself out of his presence for a time, and some say out of the realm; but I believe he will not persist in that rigor. I wrote unto your honor lately, that one Pasquier was writing a book against the Jesuits, which he intended to print here. Since, at the instance of the Nuncio it is forbidden to be printed here, but the man is resolved to set it notwithstanding, and hath made some means to me to know if it might not be printed in England, though bearing the name of Douai or some other place; I told him I would answer within this month, by which time I think his book will be ready for the press; I desire therefore to know what I may say unto him. Monsieur de Bethune is returned out of Scotland: he gives south that he came to Yarmouth, and there took shipping; but I am assuredly informed that he came to London in disguised manner as a Scottish-man, and hath brought a packet from Monsieur de Boissise. How this proceeding agreeth with the promise of the Ambassador there to her Majesty, and with Monsieur de Villeroy's words to me, (whereof from Blois I advertised your honor) I leave to your good consideration. Monsieur de Bethune or his packet hath brought the news of my Lord of Essex's restraint, which hath filled this court full of discourse. The Duke of Savoy is looked for here very shortly, he presumes that his presence will determine all differences between him and the King. The King is now come to St. Germans. I understand that the Master of Gray, when he departed out of this town, went to Brussels, where yet he continueth, and converseth much with Count Bothwell, between whom (as it is suspected) some secret practices are intended against their King. —— It is constantly reported here, (by advice out of Italy) that there is a great revolt against the Turk in Anatolia, and that Mehmed Pasha is slain, who was sent thither to repress the rebellion. There is a great discontentment grown in Genoa against the King of Spain, by reason of the purchase he hath made of the Marquisate of Final, which borders near upon them, and hath some antient pretensions upon Castel Franco, Valle di Pia, and some other places; but chiefly they fear he should go about to make another port in some place belonging thereunto, which would be the ruin of their town. Hereupon they have sent one of the house of Doria unto him, who being returned without any satisfaction, they have held a public consultation about their affairs, and have resolved to put in a readiness 20 galleys, to be employed as occasion shall serve. And so, & c. Your honor's, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
01 November 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_035
Right honorable, Paris 1st Nov. 1599. O. S. SINCE my last letters, I have had occasion to deal with the Chancellor and monsieur de Villeroy, about the verifying of the commission for marine causes in the several courts of parliaments without which we find by experience, (in a cause of one Alden recommended by my Lord Treasurer unto me) that the commission will be to little purpose. For the complayut being against them of Crotoy, which is under the jurisdiction of the parliament of Paris, the officers of this court and jurisdiction, refuse to obey any warrant made by the commissioners. The Chancellor at my first proposing it to him, thought it very reasonable it should be verified in all courts, and made shew as if it should have been dispatched presently. Since I find him colder, which I conceive to arise from others. Monsieur de Villeroy when he was first moved of it, began to except to our justice in England, as if he had had some fresh complaints: but in the end being urged upon the point, he said he thought sit there should be two commissions established, the one for the admirality of France at Rouen, the other for the admiralty of Guyenne at Bordeaux. This for my part I think very unequal and inconvenient for her Majesty and her subjects, and so I have signified, my reasons are these. The Ambassador of France assured her Majesty there should be but one commission for these causes thorough all France, and thereupon she hath established the like for her whole realm; the ancient presidents have ever been so. It were an excessive trouble and charge, and very unequal for her Majesty's subjects to travel to Bordeaux for justice, when no Frenchman need go further than London. If any difficulty or impediment should arise, or any cause of complaint of the slacknes or partiality of the commissioners, her Majesty's Ambassador to whom it appertains to procure justice to be done, is so far off, as it would require a great length of time to acquaynt him and receive his direction, as often as shall be need; and so instead of abridging the length of these suts, and easing the subjects of England, it would rather lengthen them and burden them with a new charge, of sending up and down to the English ambassadors. The counselors of those courts of Bordeaux and Toulouse are very stiff against those of the religion, and particularly evil affected to our nation, and therefore little hope of good usage at their hands. For these reasons I have made bold to signify that my opinion is, her Majesty will not like of it. Notwithstanding this day again having sent to monsieur de Villeroy to solicit the dispatch of this matter, he answered, that he could say nothing till he knew how her majestic would like of that he had proposed about the double commission. It was answered him, that he might notwithstanding cause this to be verified in the mean time in this parliament: and though her Majesty should assent to another commission for Guyenne, yet this commission as it is might serve for these parts, and so we might procede to do somewhat. Which were very reasonable and very meet to be done, seeing her Majesty had a full year since established a commission on her part, which had traveled in these causes with good effect and contentment of the complainants, as himself had acknowledged unto me at the counsel table here. Being thus urged, he said at length that he would speak with the King's procureur in it, which was all that could be drawn from him. In the mean time the party that followeth the suit lies at charges, and repines much, being assured (as he saith) before he came over, that he should have justice with expedition. But it seems they make no great regard of giving her Majesty satisfaction in this, more than in other matters of nearer importance to her. I thought it my duty to inform your honor of these unlooked for stops and traverses in a matter so plain and just, that by them you may judge (as you best can) of their General disposition. I am sure they could not be ignorant of this concurrence of the parliaments about their jurisdiction: and therefore it argues a meaning rather of dallying than of plain dealing, thus to delude us with a commission that they themselves knew would not, and as it seems meant should not be executed in these terms. My poor opinion is therefore, that you be not too forward in contenting them in their demands, for that will be the way to draw most reason from them. I understand, that a Priest which escaped this summer from Rochelle, when alablassen and his fellow were apprehended and sent into England, hath procured the Nuncio to deal with the King, to write unto her Majesty in their behalf; but that the King refused it, and hereupon took occasion to use some speech to the Nuncio, that he marveled the Pope used no good means to the Queen to deal more favorably with the Catholics. The Nuncio answered, that he thought it would not prevail coming from the Pope, but rather irritate her. The King said yes, so as he would assure her, they should not practice against her as they had done: and upon these and the like speeches, they concluded that the Nuncio should write to the Pope, what the King's opinion and advice was. It is somewhat noted, that her Majesty hath not communicated with this King, her success in the pacifying of Ireland, being conceived here to be of very great importance, I hear that the treaty of peace is broken off between the Emperor and the Turk, and the war is begun very hotly. I hear also that the Pope is about to marry three of his nieces very honorably, viz. One to the Duke of Parma, another to the Duke of Mantua's son, and a third to the Duke of Modena's son. The Duke of Savoy will be here about the 24th of this month: no doubt seeing he comes in person, all things are accorded between him and the King. Yet the Chancellor assured me, they were not yet accorded, but that he thought the Duke was too wise to come hither, but with a resolution to give the King satisfaction. The Spanish Ambassador is much discontented, and gives out that he will be gone. I can learn no cause, but that he takes his Master deluded, because they have yet sent no Ambassador to him from hence; for although monsieur de la Rochepot be designed, he makes no great haste yet to be gone. Touching Monsieur de Béthune, that point of my last advertisement was mistaken, that he gave out he came by land to Yarmouth, and there took shipping for France. For the truth is, (and so he doth acknowledge) that he came by sea to Yarmouth, and there landed, and took horse. He denieth that he came by London, and says he went directly thence to Dover, but I am assured he brought a packet from Monsieur de Boissise, and the same day he arrived he sent it to monsieur de Villeroy, desiring to be excused himself till the next day, because he was weary. I am also credibly informed, that the Saturday after his return, he was five howers with the Ambassador of Scotland, and lay all night in his house. A certain gentleman that hath often access to monsieur Villeroy, talking with me of that matter, said, it was very likely that if the Queen renewed friendship and alliance with the King of Spain and the Archduke, that the French King would seek to do the like with Scotland. Here is great enquiring of me touching the Earl of Essex. I answer according to your honor's letters, but as little as I may. There have been strange bruits raised here about that matter, but I suppress them all I may. I expect your honor's direction whether I shall deliver the money to these Italians I wrote of, or nay. For any more for the next year, I can yet understand nothing, though I solicit it as much as I may. So, & c. Your honor's most, & c. HENRY NEVILLE. I send herewith a letter which came out of the low-countries from the Master of Gray, who I understand hath had very private access with the Archduke and Infanta, and much inward communication with Bothwell, which is not the best interpreted.
13 November 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_036
Right honorable, Paris, 13th Nov. 1599. O. S. Since my last which I sent by a merchant called Beanois, there hath been an Englishman with me called Eliot, who hath served in Spain about three years, and came down now in the galleys with Spinola. This man, partly upon sorrow (as he pretends) for his offense towards her Majesty, but chiefly as I conceive upon discontentment against the Spaniards for their bad usage of him, hath entered into cogitation, how he might with some notable piece of service cancel his former fault and purchase his pardon, and likewise be revenged upon them. And for that purpose he hath entered into practice with a Spaniard born in the Indies, whose grandfather and father were of the first conquerors of Peru and el nuevo reino de Granada, whom he found likewise much discontented for some private grievances of his own, and for the execution of some of his parents about a year since in the indies. This Spaniard, as he says, will deliver unto her Majesty the means to possesse her of the havana, and will undertake to perform it with 2000 men upon the peril of his life. What these means are, himself will relate if the offer be embraced, and will for that purpose come into England with this Eliot, if it please her Majesty. He is now with Spinola and very inward with him, and privy to his chief designs; so as he will be able also do do her Majesty service in the discovery thereof. His demands are for the present about 150 or 200 crowns, to discharge some debts he hath made, and to furnish him for his journey, which he will pretend to be into Spain to facilitate his leave to come away, and so first repair hither, and hence into England. He demands also some maintenance till the action be embraced, and such recompense, as her Majesty shall think him worthy of when it is performed. For Eliot who is the worker of it, he requires only his pardon and protection from arrest for a time, and to be employed in the action if it proceed. Eliot pretends both to have drawn this Spaniard into these parts, and himself to have likewise come down with Spinola only for this purpose, and to have sold such things as he hath to furnish both the other and himself. Therefore finding him in some want, I have ventured a few crowns with him to entertain him till I heard from your honor whether you will give any ear to the overture or nay, which I desire to be with as much speed as conveniently you may. I send you herewith a copy of the Pope's bull, for the authorizing of an Arch-Priest in England among the papists. It seems they are grown very confident of settling there, seeing they begin to establish an order of government amongst them; assuredly there number and hope groweth daily. Touching Bennet the capuchin, the Duke of Bouillon who promised me instructions for his examinations, hath given me the slipp and is gone to q. Dus lb sedan, whence he will not return this month. Therefore seeing they be here so negligent, (whom it chiefly concerns) your honor in my poor opinion shall not need to be more careful in it. I understand that the French King is much troubled about your Treaty of peace. Monsieur de La Noue is come home out of the low-countries, and it is thought he is to make some I. Bcf z. Dbf wembbq. Ic proposition to the French King from the states. 1. 160 the Protestants are mightily discontented, and hardly kept from breaking out. Themselves think it cannot long continue; especially seeing the Jesuits are to be restored, and the King daily more and more given over to the papists. I can yet obtain no dispatch for the verifying of the commission, and now monsieur de Villeroy is gone to his house to solemnize the anniversary obit for his father's death, and hath put me off till his return, though I have solicited the Chancellor and him in it almost this month. Your honor may do well in my poor judgment, to suspend the proceeding of our commissioners for those causes, till you see them here in some more forwardness to yield her Majesty her due respect, whereof I can hitherto give them but little testimony. For my self also, and that which concerns my particular, I assure your honor I find as little favor. I moved monsieur de Villeroy almost three weeks since for a discharge from impositions in such provisions as I make for my house, which hath been ordinary to all former ambassadors, but yet I cannot obtain it; he doth not deny it, but says still he forgot it. Not long since the lientenant civil came to me, to give me knowledge that the people murmured that I had a sermon in my house, and that some foreigners resorted unto it, and would needs insinuate some danger of mutiny that might grow thereby in the end, and therefore advised me to prevent it. I asked him if he had any commission from the King or his council to say any thing unto me on the matter; he said no, but that he spoke it out of good will, and a desire to prevent any inconvenience that might happen. I told him, I did nothing but that which was warranted by the liberty and privilege of my place, which had been always enjoyed by former English ambassadors here, and the like by the French ambassadors in England, and that I would not dishonor my place, nor quit any privilege belonging to it. If the King commanded me to surcease, I knew what I had to do: but otherwise I purposed to continue as I had done, which was nothing, but that which my self in mine own experience had known former ambassadors to do. And as for the people, I would not subject myself to their passions, but loked to be protected by the King as belonged to my place, and as he would look that his Ambassador should be in England, where his mass was as distasteful to the people there, as my sermon was here. Since I have heard no more of him. There be many things that I have heretofore written of, wherein I expect your honor's direction, especially about the delivery of this money I have in my hands, the demand of more for the next year, or at least new assignations in place of them, which they answer were engaged to others before they were assigned to her Majesty, and the reviving of the treaty of Blois. And so, & c. Your honor's very, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
15 November 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_037
Right honorable, Paris 15th Nov. 1599. O. S. A bout a month since I had secret intelligence given me, that the drapers of this town, Orleans, Tours, and other cities, went about to renew the attempt which was made the last winter, for the banishing of our clothes, and all manufactures of wool. Whereupon I went to the Chancellor, shewing him what intelligence I had received, and praying that if any such thing were proposed to the council, I might be heard for the interest of the Queen my Mistress, hoping I should be able to shew sufficient reasons, why it could neither be honorable nor profitable for the King and his realm, to make any such prohibition. The Chancellor answered, that to his knowledge there was no such thing proposed yet in council; and if it should be, he assured me I should be made acquaynted with it, and heard in any thing I would propose; and should always find, that the King and his ministers would have a due regard of the Queen my Mistress, and of the amity and entercours between their realm and subjects. Notwithstanding, I am now again freshly advertised, that it is very hotly laboured, and favoured by some persons that have credit with the King. I mean to deal with all the chief of the council about it out of hand; and with the King himself as soon as he returns from Monceaux, which will be within these five days. In the mean time I thought it not amiss to give your honor to understand of it, and to desire to be directed how I shall carry my self in my opposition to it, if I find that it be likely to pass. It were good in my poor opinion, that the Ambassador there might understand, (by speeches given out underhand) that if it proceed, the Queen will revoke her subjects from trading in these parts, or at least forbid the bringing in of any French commodities into England, which is a thing they will never endure. This morning before he took his journey, the King gave audience to the Ambassador of Savoy, who came to advertise him, that for some occasions the Duke had put off his journey for fifteen days. He intends to come with a great train as I understand, and for that purpose hath given ordre to all the principal gentlemen of Savoy to put themselves in a readiness to attend him. The discontentment in the Low-Countries on the Archduke's side is said to be accommodated, and that the country is contented the Spaniards shall remain there one year, to see if a peace may be concluded in the mean time. Our English fugitives are all turned over into Spain for their pensions, and dismissed only with some three month's pay to a man, instead of all arrearages due unto them. I call upon the verifying of the commission every day, but they make little the more haste for any thing I see. The King's procureur would fain have the commission established at Paris; but it were to lose much time, in the nominating and allowing of new commissioners: and I have a very good conceit of the first president of Rouen that he is very well disposed to do us justice, being both a very honest and a wise man, And not many of better reputation in all France of his coat. And for my assistance, I am not so far off, but I shall be able to afford it them well enough. I wrote unto your honor so lately by my Secretary, (to whom I gave also in charge to deliver some things by mouth ,) that I have not much more to trouble you with now. And therefore humbly beseeching the continuance of your favor towards me, whereupon I do only depend, I humbly take my leave. Your honors very, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
19 November 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_038
Right honorable, Paris 19th Nov. 1599. O. S. Upon the receipt of your letters of the 28th of October, I sent for Magdalena to treat with him about the making over of the money, wherein I found him dearer than the other Italians I had before spoken with, for he made difficulty of receiving it, without allowance of two-pence upon every French crown for the exchange; but in the end we concluded for three-halfe-pence upon the crown, and so I have delivered him seventeen thousand and twenty crowns, for which he is to pay five thousand pound sterling in this sort, viz. Three thousand pound within twenty days after the sight of his bill, and the two thousand within fifty days after sight, which is a month after the first. Spedier payment I could not get at his hands, so I have sent your honor his first bills here enclosed, reserving the second for more surety till another time. Because I found that by the bond the money was to have been paid to the Lord Treasurer, and I have received no other direction, I caused the bills to be made in the same sort. For the other two thousand nine hundred and fourscore crowns, I detained two thousand crowns with your honor's liking, which is paid I hope ere this time. And I have made bold to detain the other 980 crowns now, and have given order for the payment of it, at the time that Corsini payeth in his second sum, which I hope will be all one to her Majesty, and will save her 20 nobles loss in the making over, and me as much in the return; wherefore I hope her Majesty will not disallow of my doing in it. When this is all discharged, because I take it that I stand accountable for this money, and subject to the last statute, I beseech your honor to favor my poor estate so much, as I may receive a sufficient discharge for it. Wherin, as in my former requests of like favor, I humbly pray you not to conceive me to have either so little good manners or discretion, as to desire your honor's further trouble than your good word and recommendation to my Lord Treasurer by whose order it must be done, and to whom I will use (as I have done) all means to procure it; having for that purpose, before my coming over, authorized one under my hand and seal to demand and receive my intertaynement and other allowances, and to solicit the dispatch of my business there. I wrote unto your honor in my last by Mr. Lock, that I understood the drapers went about to procure a prohibition of bringing into this realm any clothes or manufactures of wool; I was since with monsieur de Villeroy about it, who confessed that such a matter had been offered to the council, but in no likelihood or forwardness to be accepted. I prayed him to consider, how contrary it would be to that promise and offer which the King himself, and he in the King's name had so often made me, not only to continue all former treaties made with her Majesty, but to make the bonds of amity straighter if need were; whereas this debarring of our traffic, were rather to cut off the roots and foundation of all true friendship. He bidd me assure my self, that before any thing should be concluded in it to the prejudice of the Queen or her subjects, I should be called to it, and heard as I desired at full; but his opinion was, it should never come so far. This speech ended, I moved him about the Captain which was stayed at Tréport by Mr. Honniman's procurement, that he might receive some punishment for example; and likewise in generality, touching those which served the enemies against us, both as captains, soldiers, and pilots, that they might be revoked by some public proclamation, and all other forbidden to take any such course hereafter. For the Captain he answered, that the King had written to do justice upon him if he were found faulty; but no particular proof coming against him, he was set at liberty upon bonds not to depart the realm without licence: and he said that he marveled there had nothing been spoken to Ambassador about it. For the public proclamation he did absolutely refuse it, but said, if any of them came back into France, upon complaint and proof made against them, they should be punished. We debated the point a little, I shewing how much more the King was tied to her Majesty than to the Spaniard, by reason that he had with her an alliance defensive, and with him but peace only; and yet at his instance he had been contented to revoke Monsieur de La Noue and his troops from the States'service, and therefore he had no reason to refuse the like to her Majesty. But he persisted still in his former refusal, saying, that they would perform what was spoken, but after their own fashion, not after our. We spoke also of the matter of the prize taken by those of Marseilles, wherein he said they had already sent the King's answer unto their Ambassador, agreeable as it seems with that I wrote by Symons. Lastly, I put him again in mind of the King's promise of money this next year, and prayed that her Majesty might understand what she might assuredly trust to, being a matter whereupon some of her resolutions might happily depend. He said he medled not with the King's finances, and could give me no answer in that matter; but when the King commanded him to make any answer, he would either impart it to me, or to their own Ambassador to relate. Thus your honor sees how little contentment I can receive in any thing I propose. I am sorry I am so unprofitable to her Majesty here; but my hope and humble suit is, that she might not impute the blame to want of zeal or diligence in me, but consider I am come hither in a time when the King hath no more need of her, as he hath had, and is besides governed by those which are not the best affected to her. The conclusion of the King's long desired divorce will not be long deferred, for those which were sent to the Queen about it, are returned fully satisfied in those points they required of her. The nullity is grounded upon these three points: that they were too near of kin, being in the third degree: that the Queen's father Henry ii. Was godfather unto the King, which is spiritual alliance; and that she was enforced to the match by her mother. For the first there was a dispensation from the Pope, but not sufficient in some point of formality as they say; for the second there was no dispensation at all; the third was not known till now. This may serve the King's turn for the present, but God knows what the consequence of it may be hereafter. The speech of the match with Florence groweth every day colder as the King's affection to mademoiselle d'entragues groweth warmer, who is now openly showed as his Mistress in all meetings; and they are contented to give out speeches out of her house, that she is with child, which if it prove true, your honor knows what I have written heretofore, which I verily believe will follow. The Duke of Savoy sets south from Turin either this day or upon Monday. I understand there are some deputies expected here from the states very shortly. Monsieur de Villeroy told me he understood there were some to go thence into England, but of any to come hither he would not be acknowledged. I beseech You remember what I have written of that point heretofore. There is a bruit that the Spanish navy is returned to Lisbon; but Monsieur de Villeroy either could not, or would not deliver me any certainty of it. In Italy there hath been some little stirring about the Marquisate del finale, during the Marquis sickness; the Spaniards preparing to seize upon it after his death, by virtue of the purchase; and the imperials who have certain garrisons there, reinforcing themselves to prevent it, pretending it is to devolve to the empire after his death; but his recovery hath ended the controversy for the present. There hath been one of the grimaldi's here with the King from them of Genoa, his pretext was, to demand recompense of some good offices done by himself to the King in the time of the league; but they which observe the King's carriage towards such suitors; note, that he should not have been so well received, if he had had no other errand. The party by whom I had the advertisement sent by my Secretary, offers if it please her Majesty to go to x. Ihaw Rome in the company of z. Cotduy.Bemsertw the Patriarch, and remain there as long as shall be thought meet, with such allowance as may reasonably maintain him; I desire your honor's answer in it. Instead of Monsieur de Rambouillet who was first nominated to be governor to the young Prince of Condé, the King hath now appointed Monsieur de Belin, who was governor of this town for the league, and afterwards rendered Ardres to the Spaniards, for which he should have lost his head, which makes many marvel that he is preferred to such a charge. As I was writing hereof, there was advertisement brought me that the deputies from the states were arrived at Calais, with commission to treat with this King about their protection, which undoubtedly be will accept, to get some entry and footing among ft them. The Archduke fearing it above all things, hath sent a principal man in trust with him to Calais to meet with the deputies, and to offer them almost la carte blanch, that they will not proceed in heretofore written of the design of the French upon this peace; if it be not very warily dealt in, I fear undoubtedly it will come to pass as I have signified, and then I doubt our latter end will be worse than our beginning, and that ia weakening one enemy we shall set up another more dangerous. Your honor remembers that they never put themselves into the protection of England till both monsieur had discovered his purpose to betray them, and the last French King had refused them, when they offered to give themselves unto him; such an inclination they have had ever this way. This King, whatsoever his meaning is, hath been very careful of late to furnish himself of ordinance, and hath taken order for the casting of 50 or 60 pieces here in the arsenal, whereof 30 are already cast and tried; he hath also appointed great store of arms to be bought in sundry towns as I am informed, wherein he may happily have a double end, to furnish himself for all occasions, and to disfurnish the towns. I send this Messenger in some speed, as well that you may receive the bills of exchange the sooner, as also to give you knowledge of those matters which are here a working. And so till farther occasion I humbly take my leave. Your honor's most, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
20 November 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_039
Right honorable, Paris the 20th of November 1599, o. S. I have stayed my packet one day after it was ready, upon an advertisement I received from my Secretary, that he had met at Dieppe with the states Agent returning out of the low countries, and that he had some speech with him which seems not to agree with that I have advertised, as namely to this effect, that the states should have a disposition to join with the Queen x. Rf in the treaty, which I was willing to discover somewhat more of before I sent away my dispatch. For the arrival of the z. Ptdaemifcb I.Rskz ma deputies to Calais, I cannot learn any certainty of it; but it is confirmed unto me that there are some to come, and that the Archduke hath sent one thither to meet them as I wrote. The Spanish Ambassador hath confessed that he hath had advertisement to that effect from the Archduke, and hath offered by a third person whom he sent unto me to meet with me secretly, and to confer of the means to prevent it, supposing be like her Majesty would not be well content with it. I put it off upon pretext that I did not believe there was any such thing; but in deed I durst not venture to do it without warrant, not knowing how it would be taken. But if it please her Majesty to give me commission to meet him upon any such like overture hereafter, I hope her service shall receive no prejudice by it. The party that came unto me upon the message was Charles Paget. I am no way prone to believe that which the States Agent said unto my Secretary, for if the States make Peace, I see no use for him here longer than till the treaty be finished, and for so small a time as that is like to be, I think he would not have removed his q. Btmulbs x unarcrw wise and family hither, as he hath done at this instant: therefore I rather think it a disguising: but of this your honor may be perfectly informed from those parts. In the mean time I hold it my duty not to neglect the advertisement I received, but to acquaint your honor with it, especially seeing the Spanish Ambassador takes the alarm likewise of it. And so I humbly take my leave. Your honor's, & ce. HENRY NEVILLE.
29 November 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_040
Right honorable, Paris 29th Nov. 1599. O.S. Understanding of this bearer, Romain's return, I was willing to take the opportunity as likewise any other that shall be offered to add somewhat to my former advertisements; though much it cannot be at this time, both by reason of my late writing, and of an indisposition and infirmity befallen me in my hearing, which hath forced me into a course of physic for these five or six days past, though with little profit hitherto. The substance of that I have learned since my last is this, the states Agent is come to this town with his wife lately married and her mother, he hath not yet been with me though I sent to visit him the next day after his return, and received word from him, that he would have seen me the morrow after: which I note, because it differs from the former course he was wont to hold with me before his going into those parts. His common speech is sutable to that he delivered to my Secretary for his Master's resolution; but the contrary is assured me: and this that he delivers is supposed to be done but to endear his merchandise here, where it will not be refused at any price. Your honor I hope remembers what speech I wrote La Fontaine used to me of that matter before my coming over, and will compare that with the present jealousies and your other advertisements, and thereupon conclude (as you best can) what is like to be the sequele. I am informed by such as saw Monsieur de Bethune's instructions, that there was nothing contained in them any way prejudicial to her Majesty, but only a commission to do compliment to that King, which had been long omitted, and to offer the confirmation unto that nation of the exemption from the aubeine, and some other priviledges about their service in the gard which they have long enjoyed. But of any league, treaty, or alliance to be made, or renewed between the two kings, there was not a word: particularly he was directed to advise that King, to hold all good respect and amity with her Majesty. But withal I learn, that whether by direction verbal, or otherwise of his own mind, he recommended very affectionately unto that King the cause of the Catholics, and the liberty of religion, which they labor for making known that it would be acceptable here. Your honor will add this to that I have heretofore advertised. The Ambassador of Scotland maketh very fair weather to me, and seems willing enough to communicate any thing he knows with me; but surely he doth much harm among those of his nation here, laboring by all means to seduce them in religion; which he hath effected with sundry young noblemen and gentlemen, as namely the Earl of Sutherland, the Master of Paisley son to the Lord Claude Hamilton, and sundry others, who are returned into Scotland resolute Catholics, whereas they came out good protestants. The Lord Hume also since his coming hither goeth openly to Mass, and now they labor to seduce the young Lord Oliphant, son-in-law to the Lord Hume. The Duke of Savoy will be at Orleans upon Saturday next, and comes to Fontainebleau upon Monday; whither the King removes upon Friday next to receive him, if he be well; but for these two days he hath been evil at ease by reason of some surfeit he took upon Monday, for which he hath this day taken physic. Yesterday Monsieur de La Trémouille was admitted in the parliament pair of France. This day the Chancellor sent his secretary to visit me, and communicated unto me an advertisement which he understood came lately out of Spain, that the King hath raised a new imposition upon the salt and some other commodities in his kingdom, which will amount by estimation unto six or seven millions: that he intends to levy thirty thousand foot, whereof ten thousand in Italy by Don Pietro de'Medici, whom he sends thither for that purpose, and some six thousand horse: that of these he intends to leave a good number upon the frontiers towards France to assure his country: that with the rest he means to go in person to Lisbon where his whole navy is, the Adelantado being for certain returned thither: that he makes an arrest of all ships, and means to make a fleet of one hundred and fifty sail wherein he intends to embark himself, as he yet gives out: that he hath likewise commanded D'Oria to bring thither all the galleys he can make. Of this since I received the advertisement, I have sought to learn what I might from some of this council, but I can hear no confirmation: notwithstanding coming from so good a hand, I would not utterly contemn it, but thought good to send it as I had received it, together with my author. I will be careful to sift it as I may. I have at length received your honor's letter sent by the Frenchman: be fell sick by the way as he saith, which made him to be so long ere he delivered it. I received the duplicate of it before by Mussy, and have returned answer unto him already. And therefore I do hear for this time most humbly take my leave. Your honor's very, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
01 December 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_041
Right honorable, Paris, 1st Dec. 1599. O. S. Since my last unto you sent by Romain, there came an Englishman hither from Brest, to advertise me, that two English barks, the one of Dartmouth, the other of Plymouth, coming from Rochelle, were taken by two Spanish men of war which were going to Brest to fetch away certain Spaniards which remained there; and that the Spaniards after they had taken them, carried them with them to Brest, where upon the suit of some English merchants, the Lieutenant and council of the town, in the absence of monsieur de Sourdiac, stayed both the prizes and the men taken in them, until the King's pleasure were known, for which purpose they sent a Messenger purposely unto the court. Upon this advertisement I sent to monsieur de Villeroy and other of the council about it, (being my self in physic, and not in case to go out of my house ,) to pray them to move the King in it; who presently gave order that the men should be set at liberty, and that both the barks and goods should be restored unto them. Whereof I thought sit to give your honor speedy advertisement, that her Majesty or your honor may if it please you take knowledge of it unto the French Ambassador there; for I perceive they think they have done her Majesty a great kindness in it, and more than they were bound to do, and perhaps will look it should be acknowledged by her. The King is this day gone to Fontainebleau to receive the D. of Savoy, who comes thither upon Monday; he would gladly, if he could patche up an accord with the King, to yield up the propriety of the Marquisate, but to retain the perpetual government of it for one of his sons, as the Duke of Lorraine did of Toul and Verdun: he hath also somewhat in his fancy (as I hear) about the duchy of Milan. The stater Agent hath been this day with me, and telleth me if the French King do not give them good assurance of assistance, his masters mean to treat, and that in treating they will choose to do it rather severally than jointly; the King deferreth his resolution, till the matter of the Marquisate be accommodated. I think to renew my former correspondence with him, and therefore desire your honor's direction how I shall comport my self towards him, and within what compas of speech I shall keep my self. I can yet learn none confirmation from any hand, of the advertisement I received from the Chancellor, which I communicated in my last; only I hear it avowed, that the Adelantado is returned to Lisbon with his fleet much weather beaten. Before my coming over your honor willed me to endeavor to settle some intelligence for you, with some one of the Ambassador's company, that went hence into Spain. There is now offered me a very good opportunity to do it if you please, for there is an ancient acquaintance of mine that upon my motion will purposely put himself into his service, and hath promised to perform carefully that I require of him. He hath been a traveler in Italy, Germany, and England, and a soldier; so that I hold him very able for that purpose. There remain therefore to be known whether your former desire continue; and if yea, what entertainement you will think him worthy of, and what instructions you will give him, and what address for the conveyance of his letters: this must be determined without bis coming thither, and with some reasonable speed, for he must take his journey soon after the hollidayes. And so not having any farther matter to impart at this time I humbly take my leave. Your honor's very, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
20 December 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_042
Sir, Paris 20th Dec. 1599. O. S. I might very well have been silent at this time, this being a season that affords no great alteration for matters of action, and my self having received no one letter from you of any direction since that of the 24th of October, the other of the 28th, containing nothing but a duplicate of that. Yet to hold my former course, and to perform that which I take to be the duty of my place, I would not let this messenger return without some few lines from me. The Duke of Savoy arrived at Fontainebleau upon Friday the 17th of December according to this account. The order taken for his receiving and entertainment, I send you a copy of, which was only altered in the first point of his meeting, because the Duke purposely to prevent it, took post, and came thither early in the morning while the King was at mass. Upon the Tuesday after, the King brought him to this town, and lodged him and himself for two or three nights at Zamet's house, and afterwards brought him to Madam de Nemours house, just upon the day that the Duke of Guise was slain, and which that house was wont to keep very religiously: but notwithstanding the King would needs have him feasted there that day, and madam de Guise to be present at it. The Duke hath lodged there ever since till yesterday, that he removed to the lawre. The Duke of Bouillon told my Secretary, that the Duke of Savoy offers to discover to the French King such practices both against him and the Queen, that should give him just occasion to break the peace he hath with Spain, and to the Queen, to proceed no further in the Treaty; but before he do it, he would be assured both to be supported by the French King, and that the Queen had not gone so far in the Treaty, but that she might (upon this advertisement) desist. Hereupon he motioned that I would be contented, upon a visitation first performed by the Ambassador of the Duke unto me, to go to visit the Duke. But for my part I am jealous of all that proceeds both from the Duke de Bouillon and the Duke of Savoy in this matter; therefore I resolve not to do any thing in this point without warrant. The Duke de Bouillon sent me word, he would very shortly come unto me of purpose to confer with me about it. If his conference yield any matter worthy of advertisement, I will presently dispatch a Messenger unto you. He hath dealt to the same purpose with the states Agent, who hath communicated it with me, and hath promised, if at his going to the Duke of Savoy he can discover any thing, to acquaint me with it. The Duke of Savoy hath offered to deliver up the Marquisate to the King, but he would gladly that the King should promise him to abandon those of Geneva, and hath been very earnest in it; but the King will not hear of it by any means. I had some secret understanding of it, by the party I sent your honor word of by my Secretary, which I communicated to their Agent here, and gave him occasion to labor in time against it. The sentence of the King's divorce was pronounced upon Saturday was sevennight, and published upon thursday last. I wrote unto your honor in some of my last of an advise that was communicated to me out of Spain; I have been careful to sift as much as I might, yet the letter it self I could not see, but these points were delivered me collected out of it which I have here enclosed. This court hath no confirmation of any particularity, but I understand for certain, that all the soldiers and mariners which returned with the Adelantado are retained in pay, and Monsieur de Villeroy acknowledged to a friend of mine, that he was advertised the King of Spain made some preparations, but not in that proportion that might give his neighbors cause to fear much. It is held here, that our treaty with the Archduke groweth cold, and the like I saw written out of the low countries. The commission is now verified at length in this court of parliament, if it prove so difficile in all the other parliaments, it will be a long piece of work: and I believe although the verification be passed, we shall find much difference in the execution. I have at length with much opposition of the farmers, gotten the ordinary allowance of impost of wine, which former ambassadors have had. The Earl of Crawford is arrived here, with a brother of the Secretary's of Scotland. It is thought they are both to go to the Pope about the employment I have heretofore written of. I send your honor copies of the King's letters written to Brest, about the delivering of our two English barks that were brought in thither by the Spaniards. More I have not to trouble your honor with at this time, and therefore, & c. Your honor's very, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
28 December 1599
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_043
Right honorable, Paris 28th Dec. 1599. O. S. According to your honor's direction, I have given a passport unto this bearer Mr. Elliots, and have also delivered him for his maintenance here
01 January 1600
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_141_cecil_1600_french_ambassador
Right honorable. Although my healthe did not permit me to be present at the conference between the French ambassador & the Commissioners, yet Understanding since by some of them, the principal points whereupon they differed, I have made bold to deliver my poor conceit upon two of them, which I send herewith, humbly praying your honor to pardon my boldness both now & at former times. And so I most humbly take my leave & rest
Your honors very dutiful & devoted to do you all Service
Henry Neville
01 January 1600
Henry Neville to George Gilpin
ID: letter_156_megaletters_1600_01_01_gilpin
Sir: Being commanded by her majesty to serve her as her Ambassador resident in France: And knowing how necessary for her service that I should hold good intelligence with all her ministers abroad: and with none more then your self: the present estate of her affairs considered; I have therefore thought good by these few lines to begin acquaintance and amity with you, and to desire you that there may be that good correspondence between us that is fit to be between the ministers of the same prince: which as I assure you shall be really performed on my part. About Candlemas I think to set forward on my journey and within some 15 Days after I hope to be at Paris: where I shall be glad (if not before) to understand that you have received my letter: and what means I may best use to send unto you. I think it fit good also there were some cipher agreed on between us: which I will prepare and send you before my going hence. I am desirous to understand the progress of the Admiral of Arragon's army: and what resistance is prepared of your parts there: the princes of the Empire appearing are affected with it, and most particularly how it makes with you there, to prepare you either to the Continuance of the war; or to harken to the treaty: which as you know is entertained here, and like enough to be effectually prosecuted, if the impediments grow not from you. I pray you also to advertise me what is conceived there of the late Cession of these Low Countries made by the late King: of Spaine to the Archduke; for I perceive we are here very jealous of it, and hold it rather for a point of cunning then of reality. If there be any discourses come to your hand of that point; I would be very glad to see them: to know not only their opinion (who have best cause to look into it) but their reasons also of their opinion. And so Sir with my very hearty salutations hoping hereafter to be better known to you then yet I am I take my leave & commit you to God. from London the first of January 1599. Your very loving friend at commandment H: Neville
03 January 1600
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_044
Right honorable, Paris, 3d Jan. 1599. O. S. Since my last letter unto your honor, because I had not seen the King a good while I took occasion to pray audience, though I had no great matter to deal with him of. At my access unto him, first I gave him thanks for the favor he showed to the Englishmen which were taken by the Spaniards and brought to Brest, assuring him that her Majesty had received very great contentment thereof, as of a certain argument of his friendship and good affection towards us, which she held more dear than the friendship of any other Prince in the world; and that for her part, knowing that amity is preserved by the same means it is bred, she would also strive to correspond in all good offices towards him; as being assuredly persuaded, that this good union and intelligence between them, would breed both honor, safety, and contentment unto them both. I said, I doubted not but he was of the same mind, and in that confidence I would be bold to remember him of some points wherein I conceived there was some default on the part of his subjects and ministers, which I trusted he would give order to reform, according to his good intention which he had often declared unto me. First I told him, it was an ordinary matter for his subjects to serve in Dunkirk ships against us, and that by means of their skill and knowledge of both coasts, and the favorable access and retreat which they found in the havens and maritime towns of France, they had given the enemies opportunity to do us much more harm than otherwise they could have done: which being so directly contrary to the treaties he hath with her Majesty, and namely to that of 1596 made by himself, I prayed him to do as much for her Majesty, as he had done for the King of Spain this last summer in like case, though with less obligation by treaty; namely to revoke those which were there, and to forbid all other to serve them any more, against the subjects of the Queen my Mistress. For the second, I prayed him to remember, that it was more than a year since that her Majesty, at the instance chiefly of his Ambassador, had established an absolute and sufficient commission to here and determine marine causes, which had been seriously traveled in, and good justice done to diverse of his subjects, to the contentment of his Ambassador; as he had acknowledged to her Majesty and her council; that the like was promised to have been established on his part from the beginning, yet that at my first coming into France I found nothing done in it; but that after some pursuit thereof made by me, it pleased him at length to grant such a commission, which being taken to be as absolute and as sufficient power as the Queen's was, and that there would have been no opposition in the execution of it, there came some over hither to pursue a complaint before these commissioners against some of Crotoy; and that entering into the cause, in the very beginning they found the commission insufficient for want of verification in the several parliaments, and the commissioners precepts were absolutely refused to be obeyed. That hereupon I had sued above three months to have it verified only in this parliament, which was scarce yet effective as it should be; the poor complainants being driven to attend here in the mean time at an excessive and unnecessary charge, which would deter all others to come to sue for justice here, and so hinder the good intention both their majesties had to reform those abuses, and to settle a good amity and agreement between their subjects, by removing all such causes of difference and discontentment: therefore I prayed him to give commandment, that the commission should be verified in all the parliaments out of hand, and that justice should be ministered with expedition, to such as came to complain. The King answered to the thanks I gave him, that he would be ever found as ready as he had now been, to give the Queen and her subjects all good contentment, and that he hoped the Queen would now remitte her anger she had conceived, because he had not delivered her the irishmen which she demanded. To that I could reply nothing, because I neither knew what he had answered the Queen in that point, nor what she had thereupon said to his Ambassador. To the first of my demands, he said he would do it without difficulty, for those were his words; which I noted the rather, because I found monsieur de Villeroy before so peremptory against it. To the second he also promised all contentment, although he said the proceeding in England was nothing solide, but that he would do that which belonged to him notwithstanding; and the fault, if any were, should be on our side. Lastly, after his answer to these points, I told him I must be bold to put him in mind again of her Majesty's great expense this last year, which was not like any whit to diminish this year, seeing the troubles of Ireland were in all appearance like to continue. And I therefore prayed him to remember his promise made me at Blois, to give her Majesty some ample contentment of that she had demanded of him; and that he would show himself such to her in her occasions, as she had been to him in his, and not to blemish the glorious memory which he should otherwise leave to all posterity with this one spot, to have too little regarded, or too ill requited, the worthiest and most faithful friend that ever Prince had. And I prayed him to consider, that by his dealing herein with her Majesty, the world would ground a judgement, how to esteem and value his friendship towards others. In particular, I desired him to strain himself to pay her some round sum of money this year, that she might be the better enabled to make a short end of her troubles, and have the less occasion to press him hereafter. To this he answered shortly, that he was about it, and would do the uttermost he could for her Majesty's satisfaction; acknowledging himself infinitely beholden to her, and that he would ever remain her servant. Then demanding of her Majesty's good health, without any other questions or discourse he dismissed me, (because the Nuncio was likewise attending for audience) willing me to deliver a note to monsieur de Villeroy of the points I had proposed, which I have done accordingly. Of the Duke of Savoy's treaty with the King I can write you no certainty; many offers have been made by the Duke, but all so, as he would not depart with the Marquisate. They have been sometimes at the very point to agree, but after have broken off again. Upon Monday last the King went a hunting, leaving the Duke behind him, and came not hither again till yesternight. In the mean time the Duke made shew of much discontentment, and as if he would take his leave of the King as soon as he returned. Notwithstanding the opinion is, they will accord in the end to this effect; that the Duke shall retain the Marquisate, and render in exchange to the King all Bresse, and the valley of Barcellonetta, and re-edify at his own charges Centall, a frontier town of Provence, which he had surprised during these wars, and demolished. This men gather, by reason of the King's disposition, which seems wholly bent to take his ease and pleasure, and to shun all occasions that may divert him from it. On the other side, the Duke of Savoy speaks high about the leaving of the Marquisate, and says, he will rather make it the tomb of himself and all his race. By this your honor may see, that I conceived aright of those overtures which I signified were made by him at his first coming, wherein I wonder the Duke of Bouillon could be so abused, unless I should think rather that he had a purpose to abuse me in it. Our advertisements of the preparations in Spain do still continue among the merchants which have correspondence there, who have lately received advise not to be hasty in sending some commodities thither which they intended to do, because there is little money stirring there, by reason of the fleet and great preparations which are now making there. Notwithstanding, the governor of Dieppe told me yesterday, that he hath news that a ship of his which hath been detained there the last year is now released absolutely, and many other likewise by the King's express commandment, the Adelantado refusing before the commandment came, to discharge any, but upon sufficient bond to return to his service, if he did require it. I send you also enclosed an extract of a letter out of Spain, importing the great scarcity of money and almost impossibility of making any great preparations; yet as I said, the merchants here have contrary advise, and the opinion is, that the King of Spain doth not intend peace: but of that I do assure my self, your honor hath better means to judge than they here. And for his preparations, (which are the best discoverers of his intention) I suppose your honor is also very perfectly advertised, by such means as I know you have employed for it: yet I think it my duty also to add what I can learn or hear thereof. The irishmen that live in this town and the low countries, give out very confident bruits, of the great weakenes of her Majesty's forces there, and the strength of the rebels; of Tyrone's resolution to pursue the war, till he have established the Catholic religion, and of his purpose to approach the war to the gates of Dublin. Their intelligence it seems they receive from some Jesuits there, and namely from one Fitzsimon residing in Dublin. Those which are well affected to the Queen in these parts, wish these troubles ended ed with any conditions, saying that whatsoever she grant now to establish her peace, she shall not want just pretexts to revoke when she is ready for it; and in the mean time they say she shall secure her estate, from the greatest dishonor and danger that it was subject to since her reign. These discourses I cannot refuse to hear, proceeding as I am persuaded of good affection, and I think it my duty to relate them, although I know that her Majesty is so wise, as she needs no suggestions from hence, or any place. Our advertisements here out of the east parts are, that the Cardinal Bathory, to whom the Prince of Transylvania resigned his country, is defeated in battle by the Voivode of Wallachia, and in his flight drowned in a river he sought to pass: and that the treaty of peace, between the Turk and the Emperor, is resumed again. Out of Germany we hear, that the Protestant princes, apprehending the dishonor they received the last summer, resolve to recover their reputation this year; and that some other princes which withdrew themselves then, are now contented to join in the action: particularly, that the Duke of Brunswick is most sensible of the disgrace, and hath executed diverse of the commanders of his troops about it. The Duke of Württemberg upon a jollity, is gone to Rome to the jubilee. There is like to be some trouble again about the bishopric of Strasbourg. I was bold by my Secretary to move your honor again about Charles Paget, and upon the report he hath made me of your answer, I am bold now once more to recommend it unto you, being fully persuaded he may be of very great use unto her Majesty's affairs; and where she may reap more advantage by his restoring than his rejecting. I should think it most honorable for her to do that, by which she should receive most good. Besides he hath done me many good offices here, hoping he might receive some comfort by my mediation unto your honor. And many more will do the like to me, and those that shall succeed, if they find his course to speed well. But if they once see we have no credit, nor power to do them any good, they will all forsake us, and deal no further with us. Therefore sometimes to give a minister that Grace, cannot prejudice her Majesty's affairs, but rather further them. I humbly beseech your honor therefore at my suit, to move her Majesty once more about him. As for his land which he seeks to be restored unto, it is but a state for his life which the Queen hath in it, and it is now let since it came into her Majesty's hands for less then a hundred pound: so that upon the matter that which her Majesty should depart with, would be but as a pension of such a value. Touching the interview between the Spanish Ambassador and me, I hear no more of it. The jealousy belike is past for this time, but if the like occasion be offered again, now I understand her Majesty's pleasure, I will embrace it, and govern my self as I am directed. My Secretary tells me, that your honor refers to my discretion the employing of x. Dowlbiy.Nwkmwehfz.Khit the cordelier to Rome if I think him faithful. For that point I dare undertake, for he is secretly of the religion, and means ere long to declare himself; and in the mean time is willing to do such service, as he may deserve somewhat to stay himself upon, when he shall retire hence. I do therefore determine to use him, and will send him away very shortly in the company of cotduq.Igthgown the Patriarch. For the practices which I imparted to your honor by my Secretary, I have a very extraordinary means offered me of late to discover them, which I will communicate when I have a sit Messenger. In the mean time I humbly beseech you, that what I shall write thereof at any time, may not be communicated but to her Majesty alone, and that it will please your honor, to reserve those letters in your own custody; for seeing her Majesty's gracious pleasure is to have that confidence in me which your honor writes, (for which I humbly kiss her royal hands) I will endeavor with all faith and diligence to answer her expectation, and to serve her without respect of any hazard; and I hope I shall be able to discover somewhat worth the knowing. This day monsieur d'Aliencourt hath taken his journey towards Rome, to thank the Pope for his favor done the King about his divorce. In his way he is to visit the gran duca, and his niece the Princess, of whose match with the King there is now fresh speech again. And so, & c. Your honor's most, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
10 January 1600
Henry Neville to Thomas Windebank
ID: letter_123
Sir. I have received sundry kind letters from you, which do all confirm unto me the assurance I have long held of your love and affection towards me. I can make you no offers in requital but those which I have often made, and which I hope you have accepted, namely of a mind & heart unfeignedly thankful, and desirous to approve it self unto you, by the best efforts it can perform. When I have offered this, I have offered all. And to make idle repetitions of the same were impertinent. Therefore I will only commend that to your good reputation, and the proof of it to any trial it shall please you to make. The alterations lately happened in England have bred great argument of discourse in these parts, and throughout all Christendom. I beseech you make a good end of them, that both her majesty. may retain the honor and respect that is due unto her which she hath reason to be tender of, and withal not deprive her self of a servant so necessary in his kind. for howsoever you be now in talke of peace, for my thing I see or believe, there will be as great use of such men as there hath been. for my particular, I have as little interest in his standing or falling as he that hath least. But for the general, I hold him a profitable instrument/ your good wishes of my speedy return, I do very thankfully receive, and pray you (as I do all my other friends) to convert them into some good offices to that purpose. for in very truth the burden is to heavy for me every way, especially for my purse: and is like rather to grow every day, then to diminish, by reason of the continual repaire over hither of English gentlemen, to whom I can not shut my gates, nor refuse my table, which I thank them they accept so well of as I have sometimes a dozen or sixteene at once besides my own company. I will hold out as long as I can for the queen 's honor & mine own credit, hoping there will be some compassion taken of me in the end. And ever hereafter my mot shall be fie upon honor that brings no profit. when I come home I will become an hermit in Ashridge or somewhere in the forest, and do pennance for the faults I commit here. I am ashamed to see what idols we make of ambassadors there considering what little respect or courtesy is done them here. you may see I am not in love with my place. yet to any that I think may succeede me I will not dispraise it/ But I have had you to long therefore I will here abruptly end, with my wife's and mine own most kind commendations unto you and mris. windebanke, and so commit you to the protection of the almighty. from Paris the 10th of January 1599 your assured and most affectionate friend Henry Neville
14 January 1600
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_045
Right honorable, Paris 14th of January 1599, o. S. I wrote unto your honor in my last, that I had light upon a very extraordinary means to discover the practices x. Rf in Scotland. And surely I do for my part, acknowledge it to proceed from the same miraculous favor of God which he hath so often showed towards her Majesty, being otherwise a thing that no wit nor industry of man could have projected, the matter is this. One of the x. Iwn. St k t b puq. G t udie Referendaries to the Pope of principal credit and estimation, wrote a letter unto lby. Mb sk m sd an Italian in this town whom he hath known long, whereof this is an abstract which I send here enclosed, for as much as concerns that matter. The party, having been 7 or 8 years in England, and bearing some affection to our state, and perhaps loking for some reward; but especially as I conceive guided by the very hand of God, and by the happy destiny of her Majesty, came to me, and communicated the whole letter unto me, offering to entertain the matter if I would, and to reveal from time to time unto me the whole proceeding in it. I embraced the offer very willingly, as I had cause; and the better to enable him to make such a relation of England as might give them liking of him, and induce them the rather to employ him, I have furnished him with some notes which he hath already sent away, offering his service further as they shall please to command it. He makes full account to be used in this business: by means whereof we shall be able to discover their whole designs, which surely are worth the hearkening after, and further advanced I fear than is conceived. I have promised the party, if he perform what he pretends, that he shall be rewarded according to the importance of the service. In the mean time he shall receive some remembrance from me, to entertain him in good devotion to pursue it. This party is nephew unto one q. Keg it b l gt portinari, who some time served her Majesty as an engineer in the beginning of her reign, and wrote a book (as this man tells me) of the means to reduce Ireland to perfect obedience; which was written out in this man's hand, and delivered unto my Lord your father, when he was Secretary. I beseech you to insert these characters following into your cipher, To serve for the friar whom I employ; For the party from whom I had this enclosed letter; and For Rome, for of these I shall have often occasion to write hereafter. I desire that it would please your honor to give me such directions as you shall think sit for my proceeding in it. I have not yet heard of Mr. Edmonds since he went from Calais, if I have no news of him this week, I shall imaginne him to be returned into England; but otherwise if the treaty proceed here, and if your honor commes over about it, (as all men conceive you shall) I shall take it for a great honor if I may be permitted to wait upon you wheresoever it be: which I think I may very well do, for here will be noc such great business for me in the mean time, but that I may be well enough spared. I hope Captain elliott be long ere this arrived in England, I dispatched p ed him hence the morrow after our chrystmas-day. I send here enclosed the second bill of exchange to Corsini, for the 5000 crowns he is to pay her Majesty. The King and the Duke of Savoy are not yet accorded, they rather seem to grow every day the farther off. Presently after his departure, the King intends a posting journey to Calais, and the frontier towns thereabouts: and towards the spring men talk already of a journey to Lyons and Marseilles, supposing the treaty of marriage with the princes of Florence will be well advanced by that time. I hear that Monsieur de Sillery shall go to Florence about it, presently after the arrival of Monsieur d'Aliencourt at Rome. By my next I hope to send you the conclusion of this treaty for the Marquisate, or that it is broken of; but I think rather the former, for what shews soever they make to the contrary, I assure my self they both desire an accord. I have solicited monsieur de Villeroy for some resolution in the points I proposed to the King in my last audience, but he excuses himself yet upon this other business with the Duke of Savoy. If her Majesty would be pleased to write unto the King somewhat earnestly about the money, I veryly think some good would be done: in the mean time I will not desist to urge it as I may. The Lord Hume, who was gone out of this town towards Italy (as he pretended ,) is returned again, and as I learn hath been at Brussels. It is more than two months, since I was advertised that he was reconciled (by Parsons's interposing) with the Earl Bothwell. I did not then much credit it, but this journey of his to Brussels, where Bothwell is, makes it more probable; besides the confirmation I received lately of it by a Scottish nobleman here. If this reconciliation be true, there is a mystery in it, and it is not done without the privity of the Scots King, for there are none greater with him than the Lord Hume, and his uncle Sir George Hume. In sum Sir by all advertisements I receive, I find a great concurrence towards some alteration in those parts, and many are won to the adverse side; which will not declare themselves till the instant, and in the mean time bold false fellowship with our side, to do the greater harm. I hope to discover more daily. And so, & c. Your honors very, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
25 January 1600
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_046
Right honorable, Paris 25th Jan. 1599. O. S. Since my last, which I sent by my brother Trelawny, I have dispatched the fryer mentioned in my last letter q. Ic. To Rome. Before his departure I caused him to make straight acquaintance with some dociind scots here, whom I suspected to be practizers in the business I have so often written of; which was easy for him to do, because they perceiving the credit he had with z. Eotduy. Bemsert the Patriarch, were very glad to become inward with him, hoping to make good use of him towards the other I last mentioned. In this confidence (he having governed himself discreetly, and seeming very zealous and passionate in the common cause) they have opened themselves in General terms very far unto him, and confirmed all that I have heretofore advertised, and have given him letters of special recommendation to Rome. The letters he brought to me, which I perusing, I took copy of one of them which I send here enclosed, finding it to import more than the rest. And perceiving that the writer had willed his friend to communicate their cipher unto him when he came there, I caused him, under pretence of his desire to write from Lyons, where x. Dowgmg. Igt lgow the Patriarch was to make some stay, to demand a cipher of him; whereupon he gave him the very same that he had used in his letter, by means whereof I came to read it: which I have the rather noted to your honor, that you may judge by this beginning, both of His dexterity and faithfulness. I have willed him to certify what he can learn both by iwnz. Fwb lf the scots, with whom he is like to have great confidence by reason of the commendation he carries, and likewise by I. Btw m dn k m at the English, of such points as I have given him instructions of. And if any of them list to write hither, I have willed him to offer his means of conveying their letters, which they will never distrust; and thereby their letters will fall into my hands: so that before may-day, I am in hope your honor shall know the very secret of their designs. I have given him for his journey and maintenance for a time 25 l. Sterling, and besides furnish'd him of a horse which cost 15 l. I have promised him 150 crowns a year while he remains there; and upon his return, when he shall be mynded to declare himself, I have undertaken that her Majesty will bestow a prebend or some such other means of maintenance upon him to live upon, so he perform this service faithfully. In perusing the names for the which he useth special characters in the cipher, I find of English these contained in the note enclosed: her Majesty, your honor, my Lord of Essex, my Lord Admiral, Lord Willoughby, Lord Hunsdon, Lord Cobham, Lord Treasurer, Earl of Northumberland, Sir John Fortescue, Sir Walter Raleigh, the English Ambassador, Sir Henry Bromley, Mr. Bacon, Father Parsons, Doctor Cecyll, Henry Constable, Bishop a Priest, Mr. Paget, the English college at Rome. I humbly pray that this whole matter may be kept very secret, for if the least vent of it come abroad, it will both endanger his life I use, and disappoint as likely a means to discover those practices as can be imagined; which I assure your honor, upon concurrence of many advertisements, to be far advanced, and that they expect undoubtedly a speedy effect of them. The author of the letter, labouring of late to seduce a young nobleman to popery (as he is a very great intermeddler in this business) when he could not prevail by reason, told him plainly, that within few tears, and possibly within few months, he would repent him if be refused to become catholique. There is continually great consultation and meetings held at the Scotch Ambassador's house about it, at which are present, the writer of the letter, the Earl of Crawford, his brother lately come out of Scotland, the Lord Hume, John Elfeflon brother to the Secretary, and some others. They are very confident, and speak bigg, that they will have the mass in Scotland ere many months. They stay only for the money from Rome: I hope to get knowledge both when and which way it comes. If the scots King be not too far embarked in these matters, the rest will easily be prevented, receiving such information, as I hope we shall, from time to time of their proceeding. And so, & c. Your honor's very, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
26 January 1600
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_048
Right honorable, Paris, 26th Jan. 1599. O. S. Since my brother Trelawny's departure I was with Monsieur de Villeroy, to solicit the resolution and dispatch of those three points I had dealt with the King in, whereof I gave advertisement in my dispatch by bouchard. To the first he said, the proclamation the King made this last summer to revoke his subjects from the states service, was General, to all such as served any foreign state without his licence; more particular declaration he might not make; and with that we might very well be satisfied. I told him I could never obtain a sight of that proclamation, although I had used means both to the Chancellor and others for it, the copies being all taken into his own hands, and therefore desired it might be communicated unto me. He said it should be sent to Monsieur Boissise to shew her Majesty: but I fear he will play false in it, for I had once a sight of it, though I could not be permitted to take a copy; and I remember no General revocation, but only particular, to those which were in the states service. But the best is, if the peace proceed, this will not be greatly material to be stood upon. To the second point of verifying the commission, he said it should be donne in those parliaments whole jurisdictions reached to the sea coast, for the rest he thought it needful. But hereupon he fell to exclaim more bitterly than ever against our nation for the piracies they commit daily at sea (for so he terms it) against the French, and said they had continual complaints of it, and namely of some of theirs spoiled and thrown over-board by some of our merchants ships in the Levant seas, almost as far as Tripoli, and towards Constantinople, and some upon the coast of Barbary; and that if there were no better order taken, il en avieudroit du mal. I told him it was possible, there might be some evil disposed persons of our nations, as well as of theirs and others, that to gaine, would adventure the breach of any law: but as long as they found her Majesty so willing to do justice upon such offenders, they had no reason to charge her with it, either in honor or otherwise: but let them make proof of these accusations, and they shall see the offenders punished with all rigour according to justice. Nay, said he, it is that we most complain of, for we can get no justice done in England, and repeated the words point da tout twice or thrice. Then I said I perceived the informations he had received proceeded more of passion than truth, and that I would disprove them. And therewith I pulled out the certificate I received from the commissioners, of the causes they had done justice in since my coming over, which being in latin, I delivered him to reade. When he had read a little of it, finding it to be very particular, and to carry good credit, he desired me to give him a copy of it, that he might send it to their Ambassador, for he had received contrary information from him. But by this means he began to be calmer than before, and said, he did assure himself of her Majesty's princely disposition to have justice done, but he feared it was hindered by some of her ministers, that either had interest in these matters themselves, or favoured those that had. I prayed him to confirm that persuasion he had, of her Majesty's princely intention that way / and to be further assured from me, that her royal purpose being known, there was no minister of hers, that ether durst or could impeach it. But they must not measure justice by the partial report of the parties, nor the passionate information of such as would be paid with no reason. If they would have patience, and suffer matters to have their due examinations, I would undertake they should have absolute justice in the end. And to that purpose I offered to employ all the credit and means that my place did afford me, provided they did bere correspond with the like towards us; for otherwise we were not more obliged in justice or honor to them, than they to us. After this we spoke of the third point touching the money, wherein he acknowledged (as he had often done before) that the King was bound to have a great regard of her Majesty's occasions, and to give her all the satisfaction his estate would bear. But what that was he knew not, as not meddling at all with his finances, nether had the King made known his yet purpose unto him. I pressed much that I might receive an answer, for that it might import her Majesty much for some of her resolutions. And I prayed him to remember, that since we made so straight alliance with France, the profit. And benefit of it had been wholly theirs, and the charge and burden ours. And it must be confessed that the Queen my Mistress had discharged the part of a true and perfect friend and confederate, and that her succours had been a principal cause of the preservation of this estate. That now they were in peace and rest, and we in war, her Majesty was to look for some recompense of her kindenes, and some fruit of the alliance. That less could not be expected by her, nor offered by them, than that which she demanded, which was but the repayment of some of that money which she had so frankly lent the King, and disbursed for him in his great necessity. If this were denied, she could little hope for any greater matter; and she should have just cause given her to repent her, that she had left a more ancient and constant amity to embrace this, wherein there was less assurance, I showed him the note of the debt since the year 1581, which amounts to a million and three hundred and forty thousand crowns, or thereabout. I required that all above a million might be paid this year, which being done, I was in hope her Majesty should be enabled to make so good an end of her business, as she should have less need to importunate the King hereafter, and would perhaps be contented to receive the rest with more commodity to him. I remembered unto him also, that the assignations which were made unto her Majesty of the customs of Rouen and Newhaven, were found as he had answered, to be engaged before to others, which among private men had been a matter male fidei. And therefore that the King was doubly bound in honor, either to consign those into her hands, according to his contract, or to content her some other way. To all this he answered, he would relate my speech to the King, and give me such answer as he should be commanded. The next day I went to Monsieur de Rosny, and repeated in effect what I had before said to monsieur de Villeroy, and added, that I was persuaded God had not advanced him to that place of honor and authority that he bears in this kingdom only for his own good, but to the end also, that both the King's subjects and allies of the religion, should reap some fruit and comfort by it. That no man knew better than he, how profitable her Majesty's friendship hath been both to the King's estate in General, and to the cause of religion in particular; and that she thought she might chalenge thereby an interest in him, and those which were affected that way. I prayed him not to disappoint her expectation, and seeing he had so good an occasion offered him to gaine the friendship of a great Princess, (which had both power and will to requite them that deserved well of her ,) I prayed him not to neglect it, for it could not but be of great use to him in all events. I put him in mind of that himself had told me, that if the Spanish army had come on this last summer, the King had willed him to make shift for 300000 crowns to have sent to her Majesty; and I said, he was much better able to do it now than at that time, having the revenue of this year to come in, and that her Majesty's occasions to use it were nothing less; and therefore prayed him to be a means she might enjoy now, that good satisfaction intended her then. His answer was full of good words and respect towards her Majesty, and in kinder sort than his manner is. But he said he thought the King could not depart with so great a sum this year, yet assured me he would do what lay in him, to further her Majesty's contentment. In the end he discovered a matter unto me, which I perceive hath lyen upon his stomach some time. He said, he understood the Queen was offended, that his brother did not see her when he came through England, whereof he said he was the cause. For when he understood that the Queen had refused to suffer him to perform the ceremony for the King's installation, as it was intended; he, conceiving it grew upon some dislike or misprize (for so he termed it) of his brother or him, had written unto him to return some other way. And added, that for for the performance of such a ceremony, his brother might very well have been accepted; for though there were many richer in France than they, yet there were few of better house or blood, being descended of a King of France. I told him the matter was never directly propounded to her Majesty, nor refused by her. But their Ambassador having let fall some doubtful speeches, as if the King meant to discharge that ceremony by one that should do it obiter, and not be sent purposely: it was wished by some of his Majesty's council to whom he spoke it, that the King would not use greater neglect in it than his predecessors had done, who had always sent solemnly and purposely about it. And that if the Queen were grieved that he saw her not in his passage through England, it was only because she was deprived of the means to do him that honor which she intended to do him, for his respect; of whose good will and affection to her affairs, she doth as much desire to be assured, as of any mans in France. He toke my speech well, and seemed to be very well satisfied, and prayed me to assure her Majesty, that he was her humble Servant, and would be as glad to do her any acceptable service as to his own Master. Notwithstanding I dare not assure you of any great sum this year, but some reasonable portion I hope will come about midsummer, and sooner I doubt there will be nothing had, for the King will receive the first quarter himself. The matter of the Marquisate of Saluces is not yet accorded. The King demands so much in exchange, as the last speech hath been, that the Duke would rather yield up the Marquisate upon some conditions concerning Geneva, which the King yet refuses absolutely to assent unto; so as the opinion was, within these two days, that the Duke would depart without any agreement. But yesterday and this day they have met againc, but concluded nothing that is yet known. The Duke hath caused some to be spoken with, that he understands have access to me, to learn certainly whether the Queen intendeth in truth to make peace with Spain or no. I suppose he imagines, if that King had peace with us, be might be the easier drawn to embrace his defence. But other motion, or offer of any compliment he hath not made unto me, therefore I refrain likewise to do any to him; interpreting her Majesty's commandment and direction, in your letter of the 9th of Jan. In that since: and the like for my conference with the Spanish Ambassador, from whom I have had no more since the first motion by the Duke de Bouillon. The Spanish Ambassador hath delivered lately 54 articles of doleances to the council here, most of them touching the King's intelligence under-hand with the states; and namely, his toleration of their placerd against trading into Spain, and their actual impeaching of it. There are ambassadors come hither both from the Marquis of Brandenburg, and the Cardinal of Lorraine; each seeking to win the King's favor, or at least not to have him averse, in their contention about the bishopric of Strasbourg. Which being once composed, by an arbitrary sentence of the Emperor's which divided the profit and revenue between them, is now revived by those of Lorraine, that are not satisfied with the partition, but would enlarge their portion. The treaty between the Turk and the Emperor is continued by some persons, that go between the governors of the Emperor's frontiers, and Effraim bassa; but there are no deputies yet assembled about it. The last meeting was broken, upon a fear the deputies had conceived ech of other, of some treachery intended, and not upon any difficulties in the treaty, or commandment of their masters: so as it is probable they may come to some accord. But the Christians complain, that during this parley of peace, the Tartars, by the Turk's procurement, have entered upper Hungary and done great spoil there, and carried away many prisoners, which they require to be restored before they enter into further treaty. Of the revolt in Caramania, we hear that the heads of the rebellion, having by their insolencies and oppressions lost the hearts of the multitude, which favoured them at the first, have been since forced by the bassa that pursued them to quit the field, and to betake themselves to some towns where they are now besieged. So as it is thought that matter will have a speedy end, or rather that it is ended already. The georgians, who it was conceived would have stirred likewise upon such an opportunity, have kept themselves quiet, and moved not at all. This King hath taken it very offensively at the states hands, that their ships of war have staid certain French ships that were going into Calais laden with salt and wine, which they refuse to release till they have paid a certain exaction which they require, under the name of licences. The reason that moves the states to such a resolution, I understand to be this: they find that the provinces subject to the Archduke, have sought to establish at Calais a staple of all commodities which they want, and which they were wont to be furnished of from Holland and Zeeland; and upon that hope principally, they adventured to break of all commerce with the united provinces, which otherwise they could not have wanted. And they are persuaded, that if they be disappointed of that means of furnishing themselves from Calais, they will be enforced to renew the commerce, and take licences of the states, as heretofore they have done; which will be very beneficial unto them, and make them the better to subsist in their defence. And having dealt with the King to be contented with it, and finding him and his council absolutely to refuse it, (though the last King as they say gave secret consent unto it) they have taken a resolution to impeach this staple at Calais of themselves, or at lest they intend to exact that commodity by means of it, which they know they should make otherwise. The King and his council have been very bitter with their Agent here about it, and threaten not only to withdrawn the French which are there, and all other assistance, but to declare war against them, and to banish them wholly from trading in France. Notwithstanding, I do not find but they mean to persist in their course: and these men begin to be more calm (as their nature is) finding the other resolute, and are contented to hearken to some overtures of dividing the profit that shall be made of these licences. Monsieur de Villeroy in speech of this matter with the states Agent, said the Queen would have attempted such a matter, to have barred the King's subjects from trading into Spain, by staying and taking them at sea; but that the King would not endure it, and would rather have declared war against her; which speech I could not but note, and thought good to advertise. I received a letter from the lords of the council of the 27th of November, but not delivered me till the 6th of January, whercin their lordships will me to deal with the King about the proclamation of the Rochellers, forbidding any Englishman to remain in their town above four months. Before I moved the King in the matter, I thought good to speak with a gentleman that remain here in court continually for the affairs of them of Rochelle and others of the religion of Poitou; who understanding of it, hath given me some hope of accommodating the matter otherwise, and prayed me to forbear to deal with the King in it, till he had written and received answer from Rochelle, for which he required 20 dates. The term is almost expired, and if I receive not contentment by his answer, I will presently move the King about it. From Mr. Edmonds I have heard nothing since he went from Calais; but I hear by other means, that he hath had twice or thrice audience, is very well entertained, and shall accompany the Archduke to Cambrai. The King is advertised from his Ambassador in that court, that the Queen desires to have that treaty in England, but that they will not yield, but desire rather to have it here in France. I send your honor here enclosed a letter I received from Bayonne. And so I humbly take my leave. Your honor's most, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
27 January 1600
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_049
Sir, Paris 27th Jan. 1599. O. S. It may please you to remember that I wrote unto you from Blois, in recommendation of one John Mangas of Olonne, who complained, that a ship of his called la catholique, was taken by one Mr. Morgan, and detained contrary to a sentence given by the commissioners in his favor. As he reports his cause, it caryeth a very evil shew of apparent injustice, and gives an evil taste of our proceeding here. There be some men of quality interested in the cause, which let not to spread their discontentment to our disadvantage. I have written to the commissioners the state of the complaint, as he reportes it, and have prayed them to clear her Majesty's honor and their own reputations in it. I beseech your honor to recommend the cause earnestly unto them, that all mouthes may be stopped, and her Majesty's proceeding may be justified to be, as it hath been always, most just and princely. So shall I have also the better occasion to urge satisfaction in the behalf of her Majesty's subjects that be grieved in the like kind. And so shall the amitic so much desired, between their two majesties and their subjects be best preserved. And thus I humbly take my leave. Your honor's very, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
05 February 1600
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_047
(). SIR, besides my dispatch, which may perhaps be communicated to her Majesty, I thought good by this private letter to your honor, to signify what passed more between the King and me, than I have therein advertised. First, in the matter of depredations, when he seemed to lay the blame of lack of justice upon our ministers, he named directly our admiralty, complaining very bitterly against them. Moreover after the speech he used of the Irish matters, he asked me if my Lord of Essex and my Lord Admiral were made friends before his journey. I answered, I knew of no other but friendly disposition between them, and if there had been any other at any time, yet at the time of his departure I knew they were in very kind terms. Then he asked me, whether your honor and my Lord of Essex did agree any better than you did. These questions were strange to me, and I answered, that I knew of much kindness that had passed between your honor and him, but never of any unkindness. He said, yet, yes; and that he had heard much of it. I told him, that in matters of advice and counsel, you might perhaps have differed sometime in opinion, which was ordinary in princes counsels, and I thought his court was not free from it: no, no, said he, I have had the greatest pain in the world to contain them, but I have made them know my mind, that I will have them agree, and I think that the best course for the Queen your mistress also. Then he fell in commendations of your honor, with words of very good affection, and said, he thought your journey into France had done you no hurt. I told him, I had heard your honor acknowledge the great contentment and honor you had received here, and how ready you would be to acknowledge it (reserving your duty to her Majesty) with any service to him, with which he seemed to be well pleased. He told me also a merriment, that he understood that the Archduke that night he was married, was not able to consummat matrimony with the Infanta, which he had likewise related to the General of the Cordeliers, who had answered that it might well be, for he had heard the Archduke's confesser affirm, that he knew, when he was 37 years old he had never touched woman. Thus praying pardon of your honor, if while I thought to relate you all that passed, I have troubled you with more than needed, I humbly take my leave. Your honor's, & c. HENRY NEVILLE. Chevalier Guicciardini, Agent from the Duke of Florence in this court, fell suddenly dead of an apoplexy upon Saturday last.
17 February 1600
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_050
Right honorable, Paris 17th Feb. 1599. O. S. I shall not need to trouble your honor much at this time, seeing this gentleman was present at those audiences I had since his coming, and can very sufficiently relate what passed between the King and us in them. For the place required for the commissioners to meet in, it is very frankly accorded, with offer of Dieppe or Abbeville if we list; because it is conceived Boulogne will scarce afford good commodity for the train. The King had conceived a jealousy, as if we had entertained him but with shows of formalities, and had been agreed in the mean time in the substance of the treaty, which he seemed to take offensively; but in the end both he and his council remained well satisfied. At our first audience, upon fresh advertisement brought me of the proceeding of the practice to banish our clothes, I dealt directly with him in it, because I had received but a flight and doubtful answer from the Chancellor and monf. Villeroy, when I sent unto them about it. His answer was good, that I had not seen him hitherto to do any thing rashly to the prejudice of his allies, nor should not find to do it hereafter, especially towards her Majesty, to whom he renewed his former professions, and promised that I should be made acquainted and heard before any thing were concluded. But withal, he spoke somewhat of the necessity of his people, which he was bound to regard, and complained of the wrongs done by our nation to his subjects, and want of justice when pursuit is made. To the latter point, both my self answered as I had done before to monsieur de Villeroy, and Mr. Edmonds particularly related what had passed between my lords of the council and his Ambassador at a conference purposely held about those causes. Many discourses he had with us, of the wants and weakness of Spain, of the necessities of the Archduke, of the Duke of Savoy, of the Scottish King, and of some other points, which I leave to him to relate. At our second audience I remembered him again of his promise to give her Majesty some contentment in the matter of his reimbursement, and urged an answer; shewing that the delay of it was almost as prejudicial to her majesty as the refusal, and using the best reasons I could to move him to take some serious consideration of it. His answer was, that his council had been command them to intend it seriously. Notwithstanding, the Duke of Bouillon's speech to Mr. Edmonds promises but little satisfaction. His many interlocutory speeches of his journey to Calais, and inclination to see her Majesty, and of the news he had that morning received from his Ambassador touching my Lord of Essex, I leave unto Mr. Edmonds; as also many other particulars of his conference with these men here, and of the Spanish Ambassador coming to my house, and his discourse with us; assuring my self I cannot commit them to a better relation than his. And my self having an infirmity in my hearing grown upon me, which caused me to lose much of that which was said. For the matter between the Duke of Savoy and the King, we hear that this day they are accorded, that the Duke shall within two months either render the Marquisate, or deliver in exchange Bresse, and the rest which I have heretofore signified. I received lately your honor's letter of the 18th of January, by which I am instructed what to answer if I be dealt with about the complaints exhibited by the French Ambassador; but no man speaks yet to me of any such matter. This gentleman is well furnish'd with all the occurrents that this court yields. Therefore with remembrance of my humblest duty, I conclude and rest sent by Mr. Edmonds. Your honor's most, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
19 February 1600
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_157_megaletters_1600_02_19_cecil_rochester
Right honorable. This evening at my coming to Rochester I met with Simons who brought me this enclosed from Mr Winwood, whereby your Lordship may perceive in what uncertain terms the ratification of the treaty stands. At my arrival I hope the truth will be fully known, which I will not fail to advertise immediately. For the present I am only to remember your Lordship that considering one of her majesty's letters to the king, does directly offer ratification on her part of the treaty of Blois, & urges the like acknowledgment from him, and withal intimates that she has given me charge to advise and confer with his council of the means to give it full execution on both sides, it will be very necessary that I be furnished with clear directions how to proceed in it. For if they embrace the offer, as without all doubt they will, if the Duke of Savoy continue thus to dally with them, the matter is like to have a speedy course. Wherein because in former conference I have discovered, that one of the first steps will grow about the company that we are to establish there, whereupon all the benefit and advantage to the trade is founded, I humbly beseech your Lordship to vouchsafe to use your own Judgment in it, as a matter very well worthy your labour seeing upon it depends the state of one of the most beneficial trades that ever England made for the matter of trade: which is now more necessary to be regarded then ever, because we are interrupted in so many other places. I am credibly informed that there is vented into france yearly for above two hundred thousand sterling of the kersies, cottons bayes & c. such kind of manufactures of wool which are not in a manner vendible in any other place. To lose this trade were very prejudicial to the Realm: And if I can see any thing into their purposes and drifts that when you yield them to this Treaty, and by the Treaty a liberty of commerce I am fully persuaded that either directly or indirectly they will weary us out of all our trade there: And to that end I know there has been secret contributions made among the drapers & great offers to them
men of poor power & weak means in that Company. now to lose such a trade upon an imaginary inconvenience that may happen to the clothiers, not yet proved, and when it shall be discovered, subject to reformation at all times, in my poor Judgment were a great wrong to the state. The next point that I would recommend unto your Lordship consideration is, That, forasmuch as all the commodities of our trade in france, take their prejudice from the viciousness of cloth, which, though it be not such as they make it, yet in truth can not be defended, it would please your Lordship to be a means to her majesty that the known & ordinary abuses may by some severity be reformed. For otherwise we can not with any colour of reason press them to admit our commodities that are notoriously vicious & such as our own laws prohibit. Thirdly I beseech your direction, if upon my instance to the king for the payment of his debt to her majesty he should proceed with me as his Ambassador did with the queen & demand what portion she would be content with, how I shall govern my self in that point, and whether I shall make any particular demand & what. Lastly what Complement I shall do to the queen & whether I shall promise that her majesty will send any noble man over to congratulate her marriage And lastly what I shall deliver to the king of her majesty's proceedinges or intention touching the treaty with Spaine wherein it is very likely he will be inquisitive of. These things I am bold now to suggest, because I saw your Lordship so busy when I took my leave that I thought it not fit to trouble you with them then. I have left my Secretary Packer behind to overtake me upon Sunday at Dover. I beseech your Lordship to vouchsafe me some direction by him in these points or as many of them as you shall think good. And so presenting my humble service unto your Lordship and my bounden thanks for all your favors I humbly take my leave. from Rochester the 19 th of February 1600. Your Lordship: very humbly to be commanded Unsigned
20 February 1600
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_051
Right honorable, Paris 20th February 1599, o. S. I send this Messenger expressly, and with as much speed as I can, to let your honor understand, that yesterday there arrived here two curriers one after another, with great speed out of Spain: and I am secretly informed, that they brought news ether that the King of Spain is dead, or desperately sick. I cannot absolutely say it is true, but I received it from a good hand, and one near about the King, which makes me bold to advertise it with speed. I will be careful to understand the truth, and if I learn certainly ether confirmation or controllement, I will dispatch another Messenger presently. The Duke of Savoy is this day gone out of this town towards his own country, and hath time till the end of may, to resolve whether he will render the Marquisate, or the exchange required of him; having bound himself by a writing signed by himself, to do ether the one or the other in that time. The King I hear hath taken some discontentment with a letter which the Pope wrote lately unto him, both touching the Duke of Savoy's cause, and the restitution of the Jesuits. In which point, he hath challenged the King for not performing bis promise, seeing be hath on his part accomplished as much as was desired of him touching the King's divorce. The King I hear made a round answer to the Patriarch about it, and the same day dealt as sharply with the states Agent, upon fresh complaint to him of more ships taken by their men of war upon the coast of Calais. The last letters I saw out of Spain, made mention that the King was going into Portugal, and that the Adelantado was committed prisoner to his house at Madrid. That the Indian fleet was not heard of, and therefore not looked for till September. That there were ten or twelve galeons prepared to go meet them. That the scarcity of money continued there very great, but that the an 1599. King had notwithstanding, given order for twelve hundred thousand ducats to be sent with all expedition into the low-countries. That the Count de fuentes was established governor of Milan and one of the grandees of Spain, and was to come away presently with 4000 Spaniards. These letters were written in the beginning of their February, but the King's which he received, came thence as I am informed, in eight days. For the prohibition of the manufactures of wool, notwithstanding the King's answer and his counsels made to me and Mr. Edmonds, I do much doubt it will proceed. And I am credibly advertised of levies of money and contributions made in diverse towns of this kingdom for the effecting of it, and that the drapers make full account of it. I have gone as far as I can in the stay of it, unless I should descend to a direct protestation against it, as a breach of the treaties, and the amity depending upon them, which I dare not do till I have warrant from her Majesty. But assuredly Sir they are so careless and confident in their proceeding with their allies, especially with us, that if they be not very roundly dealt with, they will adventure upon any thing for their profit but if her Majesty will but follow their example, and banish their wines for a time, you shall see them humble enough, and drive them to seek to you: for those countries live wholly by the vent of their wines, and will be ready to rebel, rather than be put by it. In the mean time, the Queen's custom will not be much impaired, for if French wines be forbidden, there will be the more Spanish wine spent, which pay as great an impost or greater than the other. And moreover, such a president would greatly establish her majesties reputation, and teach them to proceed the more respectively with her, in all things els. I am bold to extend my self a little beyond the bounds of my charge in this point, out of an indignation and disdain to see her Majesty so ill requited, where she hath so much deserved; which if it hath carried me too far, I crave pardon. Since Mr. Edmontdes departure, I went to compliment with the extraordinary Ambassador of Venice, who is now, (though late) come to congratulate the peace with Spain; and finding him lodged right over against the Spanish Ambassador, I could not avoid to see him, seeing he had been here with me before. Our speech was little besides compliments, and that little was in generalities, in commendations of peace, and detestation of wars. I would willingly have drawn from him what the points were they meant to insist upon. And to that intent, when he prayed God to dispose the hearts of both sides to pass by all difficulties, and to conclude a good peace; I told him, that they must then dispose themselves to require nothing unreasonable nor dishonorable, and that if any difficulty arose, it was in all appearance to grow from their demands, not ours, for difficulties did grow always from particulars: and I did not conceive that our side were likely to propounde many particulars, but only the General incidents and consequents of peace, and the particularities were rather likely to be proposed on their part. Which he confessed to be true, but said he was fully assured that the reasonableness of their demands should well testify their sincere intention and disposition to peace. I answered that that being so, there was no doubt to be made of the like disposition in her Majesty, who hath by sex and profession was ever peaceably inclined, until she was by too great provocations forced to a necessary defence of herself. We parted with kind compliments, he giving me the precedence in his own house, as the custom is, and as I had before done to him in mine. This is all I think sit to trouble your honor with at this time. And so, & c. Your honor's very, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
26 February 1600
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_052
Right honorable, Paris, 26th Feb. 1599. O. S. The report of the King of Spain's death or sickness, whereof this court was full for three or four days, begins now to grow cold, and instead of that danger of the kings, they pretend to have advise of a burning sever of the Queen, which it is thought she will hardly escape. This is confessed by the Spanish Ambassador, and avowed unto me by Mr. De Villeroy. Notwithstanding, I know the King was very pleasant upon the first news, and began to talk of the recovery of Navarre and of other designs. So that many do yet believe the former report may be true, but that it is covered for a time by those men, upon some purpose. The opportunity of Sir Robert Drury's return, is the cause that I sent no Messenger purposely with this advertisement, (as I promised in my last ,) hoping it will come by his means in reasonable time. If I discover any more certainty of this matter, I will certify your honor of it with speed. The King's journey into Picardy is broken, and instead thereof he intends to take the diet for a fortnight or three weeks, for some of his old griefs, which are growing again upon him. I understand he hath appointed the Bishop of Boulogne to repair thither, to give order for all things necessary against the commissioners coming. I would gladly urge an answer about the Queen money before the treaty be concluded, and for that purpose I have desired audience any time these eight days, but am still put off; which makes me fear that they linger purposely, till they see what will become of the treaty. I am often solicited by our merchants, to deal with the King and his council about the abatement of the impositions, raised upon our commodities since the treaty of Blois. But because it is a point that depends upon that treaty, which is offered here to be renewed, I think not sit to meddle with that particular alone, but to include it in the General confirmation of the treaty, if it be her Majesty's pleasure to renew it. I beseech you Sir therefore I may understand her resolution in it, and how I shall otherwise satisfy the importunate desire of our merchants, who think me very negligent in my charge, that I have so long deferred to solicit that point for them. Surely somewhat will be necessary to be done, if you intend to continue any traffic here. For now all is at liberty, and the King bound to nothing; the treaties that concern the commerce being determined, and that of Troyes and the last of 1596 which be only in force, ether not meddling with that point at all, or in such generality as we can take no great hold of them for our benefit. The unkindness between the King and the states, is aggravated by the continual complaints which come of French ships taken by them. I am told that there is fresh complaint brought hither also, of two ships of Newhaven sunk by some of her Majesty's ships. If any such thing be, I beseech you to direct me what answer I shall make unto it, for I make no doubt but they will expostulate it with me. And so, & c. Your honor's most, & c. HENRY NEVILLE. Since my last, I have seen a letter from Madrid of the 7th of February, wherein it is certified, that there is a caravel of Sinigaglia arrived, which affirms that the Indian fleet is at the Havana, and expected to be at home by the end of march.
27 February 1600
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_053
Right honorable, Paris, 27th Feb. 1599. O. S. The Earl Gowrie, a nobleman of Scotland, who hath spent some time in these parts, is purposed to return home through England, and desires to have the honor to kiss her Majesty's hands as he passeth. And because I know him well, and have had good communication with him, and therein found him to be of very good judgement, and exceedingly well affected both to the common cause of religion, and particularly to her Majesty, and that which may concern her honor and service; I have thought good to recommend him especially unto your honor; and to beseech you to be a means that he may receive that honor and favor that he is worthy of, that so he may depart confirmed in that good devotion and respect, which he bears already towards her Majesty. If your honor please to confer with him about these alterations feared in Scotland, I believe he will give you good satisfaction, and that you will find him to be a man of whom there may be excceeeding good use made. I have given him my passport, to serve him till he come to her majesties court, in as ample and favourable sort as I could. The rest I refer to your honor's good favor towards him, whereunto I humbly recommend him. And so, & c. Your honor's very, & c. HENRY NEVILLE. The Lord Hume purposes shortly to return likewise as he telleth me, and hath already prayed my passport, which I cannot deny him. But you will be pleased to have regard to some of my former letters.
27 February 1600
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_140_cecil_1600_02_27_tiery
Right honorable. This bearer mr Tiery a Scottish gentleman whom I knew the last year attending upon my lord Hume in Paris, and who is since become an exempt of the french kings guard, being desirous to return into Scotland brought me letters of recommendation from mr winwood & mette me here to testify. His desire is only to have a passport for his quiet passage, wherein I am bold to entreat your honors favor towards him. And so I humbly take my leave. From Rochester the 27 th of February 1600
Your honors very humbly to be commanded
Henry Neville
02 March 1600
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_054
Right honorable, Paris 2d march 1599, o. S. I am bold to recommend unto your honor this nobleman of Scotland the Lord Hume, who is now returning into his country, and minds to take his way through England; beseeching you that by your means he may have a passport for his free passage, and receive such other favor, as her Majesty useth to extend to men of his quality. It hath pleased him to do me the honor to visit me often, and to make me many kind offers. In requital whereof, I would be glad to be a means, of any honor or favor to be done him in England. Wherein because I know your honorable disposition to be very prone, I shall need to use no more words, but will only present my service unto you, and so humbly take my leave. Your honor's most, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
12 March 1600
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_055
Right honorable, Paris 12th mar. 1599. O. S. I was desirous (as I wrote in my last) to have drawn some answer from the King in the matter of the money due to her Majesty, before the treaty of peace with Spain had been so far advanced. And for that purpose, I have any time these three weeks desired audience, as also to the intent to have dealt with him about the proclamation of the Rochellers, whereof my Lords of the council wrote unto me, and to have procured some favor to poor Captain Thynne, who is imprisoned here. But I have been continually put off upon one pretext or other, and sundry assignations disappointed; although in the mean time both the Nuncio, the Venetian ambassadors, the Scottish Ambassador, and the Patriarch, have all had audience. Which is a kind of proceeding that argueth small affection or regard to her Majesty, and whereof in that respect, I cannot but be sensible, and have thought good to advertise it, that it may please you to direct me, how I shall carry my self if these courses continue, and what resentment I shall make of it. The matter is evident, either to be done as a scorn, or upon design to avoid the answer I am like to press them to. Both are injurious to her Majesty, and the latter a kind of mockery, not to vouchsafe her an answer, but to shift her off by these delusions. I have occasion, and will enough to be warm in this matter, but I am not willing to presume too far without direction, which I do therefore humbly desire, that I may have a rule to guide my self in all such occasions. The King is this day gone to Fontainebleau a hunting, and promises to return upon Saturday. He altered his mind for taking the diet, but about fifteen days since he took physic two or three days. He doth undoubtedly purpose a journey to Lyons in the beginning of may, so that he may be at hand when the time expires which the Duke of Savoy hath taken, to resolve either to deliver up the Marquisate of Saluces, or the exchange demanded, of which many are of opinion he will do neither. And that opinion is confirmed, by the Count de Fuentes coming to be governor of Milan with 5000 Spaniards, and with a very large and extraordinary authority and good store of treasure, to be provided against all events that may ensue in Piedmont. This is one cause of the King's journey into those parts, another is to receive the Princess of Florence, whose match with this King is thought to be secretly concluded by the grand Duke's Secretary, which hath been here closely for that purpose these four or five months; and monsieur de Sillery is by this time I suppose at Florence, with absolute power to conclude the contract there publicly. In so much as they begin here already to design the estate of her house, and appoint her officers. It is very probable, that the King will marry her upon her first arrival; so that if her Majesty intend to send any nobleman to assist at the marriage, (as her use hath been ,) it will be time almost to think of it; for I am persuaded the Princess will be at Marseilles in June at the farthest. But I will endeavor to learn the certainty of her coming as soon as I may, and advertise it forthwith. I have seen letters out of Spain of the last of their February, wherein is mentioned that a caravel of advise was arrived at Seville, which brought word, that he left the Indian fleet on this side of a place called Bermuda, and that it would be arrived in all likelihood by the middle of march, the winds having been so sit for their course, and so strong. The value of it in coin, bullion, and other merchandise, was esteemed to be sixteen millions. That Count Fuentes was dispatched for Milan, and that D'Oria attended him at Barcelona with 12 galleys. That the Nuncio, which was sent thither extraordinarily about the matter of Final, was now to remain there in ordinary, and that the Pope seemed to be grown cold in that matter; and that there was great expectation and hope of the peace with England: but withal, some fear that there might grow some prejudice to the Christian faith, by the free access and conversation which the heretics were like to have thereby into those parts. That Don Cristoforo di Mora is elected viceroy of Portugal, wherewith that nation is much discontented, pretending that that dignity ought not to conferred upon any but a Prince of the blood. Here is arrived out of Spain on Sunday last, and departed yesterday towards Brussels, Fernando Carrillo, a Spaniard that hath lived long in the low-countries, and served as a judge marshal in their armies; a man of good learning in the law, and otherwise sufficient, as I am informed. His coming is as I understand to be of the council of state in the low-countries, and one of the commissioners in the treaty; which makes men conceive it may prove more full of difficulties than was expected. For this man is known to be no great favorer of peace, and withal very haughty and peremptory, like a right Spaniard. Of the Queen of Spain's sickness or recovery, there is no more news come since my last. I received lately this enclosed from Mr. Hawkines out of Spain, and likewise the other from Bayonne. I am informed that there are two Irishmen, the one a Lieutenant called Jenkins, the other an ensign called Stanihurst, esteemed good soldiers, to depart shortly out of the Low-Countries into Ireland, with the Archduke's leave and passport. The states have at length suspended their proceeding against the French, and have rendered the ships they had taken; which hath pacified the King and his council, who were greatly exasperated against them. But withal I understand, they labor still by request to the King, to hinder the staple at Calais, and the furnishing of their enemies by that means, which they are in hope he will be won unto by entreaty, though in honor he could not endure they should extort it from him. But for my part I scarce believe they will obtain it, because I see monsieur Villeroy so ready to traverse their designs in all things: but the Duke of Bouillon and Monsieur du Plessis, with others of that side, do what they may to counterpoise the balance in their favor. The princes of Germany have assembled themselves at Frankfurt, and given hope of some new enterprise this year in the states favor, or at the least of some succour both of men and money. But there is a fire kindling (as I learn) among themselves, which if it be not warily and speedily suppressed, I fear will prove very dangerous to the whole party of the religion in Germany; and that is the administrator of saxonie's pretence to the electorate, from which his grandfather was dejected by Charles the 5th: whereof being now in possession, as tutor to the young elector, and the Emperor favouring his claim, (upon design to nourish division among the protestants) it is thought it will be an easy matter for him to hold it, which cannot but engender an eternal strife between the two houses and their partakers: whereof in all likelihood the other side will prevail, to the ruin of them both. I have heard nothing from Rome of the matter I have entertained there; only (the person I employ) showed me another letter from the same party, of fresher date than the former, (but yet written before his answer he made could be arrived there) wherein he desires to know, whether My Agent will take the matter upon him, willing him to be well advised, because he fears it may prove an action of danger to them that shall deal in it, and like enough to prefer them into the rank of martyrs before their time. But we expect shortly to hear from thence at the full, in answer of that he wrote, upon the first letter. Mr. Thirme, poor gentleman, is here in the châtelet, arrested for a ship called the Holy Ghost of St. Jean de Luz, which Sir Robert Crosse and he took in the year 1591, in that voyage wherein the Revenge was lost. Mr. Thynne pretends that he did nothing but by Sir Robert Crosse's commandment, who was reere-Admiral of the fleet, and was to command him, being severed from the rest; and saith that he brought her safe into England, and presently advertised My Lord your father, and my Lord Admiral, by whose order some part of the goods were sold; and that afterwards upon proof made, that the ship was French and not Spanish, there was restitution awarded both of ship and goods; but that the ship and the greatest part of the goods were cast away in the haven by mischance, after she was out of his charge, and without any fault of his. Upon which consideration, when the owners pursued him and others to justice in the admiralty, he saith he was discharged of it. All this we allege here, but because it hath no other credit but of his own word, who is the party, we can get little help yet for him. We have evoked the matter before the council, where I labor to get him enlarged, upon his juratory caution, and such other caution as he is able to give, (out of his wive's estate which he hath recovered here) that he shall answer the suit, and abide and perform that which shall be judged. This is all I can do for him, if I can effect that. They require caution of burgesses, or men known here to be of sufficient estate; but the sum is so great of 23000 crowns, that it deters every man. If your honor will be pleased to do him any favor from thence, either by the Queen's letters, or otherwise as you shall think good, you shall do a deed of great charity; for surely he is much afflicted with it, and is in danger to sustain some misery. And so for this time, longing very much for your letters, which I suppose to be upon the way, as having received none since that of the 18th of January. I most humbly take my leave. Your honor's most, & c. HENRY NEVILLE. Sir, after the King's departure to Fontainebleau, he sent Monsieur de Liancourt to excuse my long delay for audience, by whom I am assured that at the King's return I shall have present access.
20 March 1600
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_056
Right honorable, Paris 20th march 1599. O. S. I have received your letter by jasper of the second of march, with an advertisement of her Majesty's proceedings with the audiencier since his coming into England, for which I humbly thank you. It may please your honor to remember, that I have often written, that it was not believed the King of Spain had any sincere purpose to make peace. These exorbitant demands, to my simple understanding, do import as much: and for more confirmation of it, the Spanish Ambassador doth affirm directly (as I understand both by the King himself and Charles Paget) that unless the cautionary towns be rendered, they will make no peace. Withal the said Charles Paget doth assure me, that he knows by very good means, that there are three ships dispatched from Spain into Ireland, with money and munition, and that in one of them there goeth a Knight of malta, called the grand prior of Ireland, brother to Odonel with commission to consider thoroughly the estate of the affairs there, and to make some contract with Tyrone and the rest, who offers to acknowledge the King of Spain absolutely, and to do nothing without his direction; proffering likewise, when he list to make any attempt upon England, to furnish him with six or seven thousand expert men. These things, as I am not too credulous of, so am I not willing to despise them, being related by one who hath good intelligence with that side, and who in this report can have no design in particular. For as of one side he delivers his conceit, that they intend not peace, but with great disadvantage and danger to us, by the delivery of those towns, joined with infinite dishonor; so doth he likewise assure me on the other side, that peace not succeeding, the King of Spain resolves to set up his rest, and venture his whole fortune upon us: which notwithstanding he thinks safer for us to endure, than to render those towns, which would in the end make them masters of those seas, and enable them to give us the law for our trade as they would. This advertisement I was willing to relate with speed, that if you find it to concur with the rest of their proceeding to that purpose, and see that you are not like to have a peace with safe and honorable conditions, you may, if you please, advise in time, what use or advantage may be made of the French King while the matter rests doubtful. For undoubtedly he could be contented it were broken, and while it is in balance, would perhaps be drawn to somewhat, which afterwards when be sees it broken of itself, he will hardly be brought to. The points that I could with he were urged in are these; to renew the alliances defensive in case of invasion, in such sort as they were made between King Henry the 8th and francis the 1st: to pay the Queen a certain sum of money yerely, till his debt be discharged. To establish our traffic in France, with such freedom, abatement and exemption from impositions, as the treaty of Blois appointeth. To forbid all arms and munition, to be carried into Spain. To forbid his subjects to serve at land or sea against us. To continue his assistance to the states, that they may be enabled to subsist. To interpose his credit with the emperor and princes of Germany, to restore our trade there. To do the like in Scotland. To stay such practices as the King of Spain may have there, and to keep that part in good devotion. And lastly, to aid the Queen in Ireland (if she list to require it) with two or three thousand good shott at her charge. Which I mention, because it seems that service, is of most use in these wars of Ireland, and that our men newly levied, do not commonly make the best proof that way. There is a report here of a preparation of diverse galleys in Spain, that shall come down to the Sluce and join with the rest. The indian fleet is returned as the King is advertised, for so he told me at my audience some two days ago; at which time I likewise pressed him for some answer in the matter of the money, which he hath promised to give me presently after the holidays. I dealt with him also about the ordinances made by the Rochellers in prejudice of our merchants and trade there, which he hath promised to redress. I gave since to monsieur de Villeroy the very original affiche under the mayor of Rochelle's hand, which was sent me from thence. As soon as I have any particular answer in it, I will advertise my lords of the council of it, as they commanded me by their letter. I have been careful not to divulge the difficulties grown in England about this treaty; but it needed not, for I found monsieur de Villeroy well advertised of them all, in the same sort your honor wrote unto me. Therefore being forced to acknowledge somewhat, I said for the other points, that they were proposed indeed, but not with intention (as it seemed) to be insisted upon; but for that of renewing the ancient alliances offensive and defensive, I was willing they should conceive here it to be much stood upon by the other side, but yet refused by the Queen, and so like enough to breed the greatest difficulty and stoppe in the treaty. The advertisements I mentioned to come from Charles paget, and the faithful affection which he seems to bear in sincerity to the Queen and his country, (notwithstanding the cold comfort I gave him lately) I would be very glad might breed some compassion and alteration in the heart of the Queen. Questionless if your peace succeed not, it cannot be but profitable to reclaime and recall as many of that kind as sincerely seek it, and have any worth in them. For so you shall disappoint the enemies of many serviceable instruments which they intend to work by, and give withal some contentment to those at home, of the same disposition; with whom also, these men's persuasions, and discoveries of the enemies tyrannous intentions, under his faire pretexts, will more prevail to assure them in their obedience, than any means else we can use. I am bold to discover my poor conceit in the General, although I am in a manner desperate of prevailing in this particular. There is none of these I mean, but offer oath of absolute obedience to the temporal government, and to employ body, goods and life against any invadors, renouncing all benefit of dispensation, or other evasion from it. There is a fresh complaint come to this court, of 12 of our ships that should be within the straits upon the coast of Provence, which are said to spoil and take all men. The letters came that day I was with monsieur de Villeroy, yet he said nothing to me of it; but the Duke of Bouillon gave me knowledge of it. They say the King takes it very ill; as I hear more I will advertise. I do prepare my self according to the warning your honor gives me, to come to Boulogne, and shall be very willing so to do, so as I may wait upon your honor there; which I purposed to do howsoever, if you came over. But otherwise if your honor come not, considering what a journey I am to take presently upon my return from thence, and perhaps before the treaty be finished, I would take it for a favor to be excused. I would have been glad after so extraordinary a charge as this journey to Marseilles will be to me, to have found her Majesty disposed to have shortened to me the ordinary time of residence here, considering my estate so unable to bear it. But if her service will not permit me to attain that favor, I shall depend yet with comfort upon her gracious promise at the two years end; and be bold to put your honor likewise in mind of yours made me to the same effect, at my first undertaking the charge. In the mean time I will endeavor to serve her Majesty with all diligence and fidelity, and to my ability omit nothing that may be for her honor or service. And so for this time I humbly take my leave. Your honor's most, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
02 April 1600
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_057
Right honorable, Paris 2d April 1600, o. S. Upon occasion of many probable conjectures, that this intended treaty will have no such ready passage as was conceived; in which case it cannot be amiss her Majesty should know, what assurance and foundation she may make of her allies: I presumed (though I had no special direction so to do) to press the King at a late audience, for a direct answer in some points I had heretofore moved him of. I found him in a very good humor, and very willing (as he pretended) to give the Queen all the satisfaction and assurance he was able, of his sincere affection towards her; with very liberal offers of his person and all his forces, to be employed in her defence, if she needed. And for the points I had proposed, he willed me to make a short note of them, and to deliver it to monsieur de Villeroy, promising to advise of them thoroughly with his council, and to give me an expedite answer. He fell of himself into discourse of this treaty with Spain, wishing that her Majesty should give them the law in it, as he had done, rather than receive it from them; and was of opinion, that if her Majesty would stand off a while, they would come to any reason. He found great fault with their exorbitant demands; and told me that his opinion was ever, that the King of Spain desired not peace, but in respect of the Archduke's necessities; which for the interest he had in them, would enforce him in the end from his own inclination. He willed me to let her Majesty know from him as a secret, that he was certainly informed that the Archduke and Infanta had received advise out of Spain, that the King had been desperately sick, but recovered so as he is past danger of his life; but that in this sickness of his, it hath been discovered that he is impotent, and not able to have children. Whereupon the Marquis of Denia's and other chief men (despairing belike of the King's long life or likelihood of issue) begin to make court to the Infanta, and to insinuate themselves into her favor by presents and all serviceableness. He told me also, that the states intend to set out another fleet this year, but not to make any long journey, but only to keep upon the coast of Spain; and seemed to be very affectionate to their conservation, wishing that her Majesty, though she made a peace, would do for them as be did and would. He concluded my audience with many protestations of his sincere affection to her Majesty, and his desire to continue that straight friendship he had ever held with her. This day I delivered the note of that I had proposed to monsieur de Villeroy, (whereof I send a copy) who hath promised to procure me a speedy answer. In the three latter points I am persuaded you may have any reasonable contentment. In the first I have some hope, though it be feeble. I have not found monsieur de Villeroy in better tune at any time, which confirms me in mine opinion, that if her Majesty intend to make any use, or to draw any assurance from hence, this is the true time for it, and the opportunity would not be omitted. I have presumed thus far of my self, which although I had no direct warrant for at this time, yet I hope her Majesty will interpret it graciously, considering I have not any way engaged her, but only sought to engage the King in those points I have heretofore had commission to propose; that so her Majesty being cleared of his intention, may resolve the more freely in this weighty business. If it be her pleasure to found the King in any of the other points I mentioned in my last letter, I beseech your honor I may understand in time. The King is of opinion, that the meeting will be put off yet a good while, and that there will be sending to and fro about it twice or thrice before it be agreed on. Charles paget is advertised from his friends at Brussels, that they have little hope there now of the proceeding of it. The Scottish Ambassador here told me, the like was written from thence to him. Monsieur de Villeroy spoke to that purpose the King had done, that if her Majesty beld off, they would fall in their demands. I understand by him, that the King intends shortly to send a man of quality into England to be installed for him. I would gladly have known whom, but he said it was not yet thoroughly resolved upon, yet assured me it should be a personage of such quality as we should well like of. Now, Sir, it may please you to direct me with some speed, (which in this time is very necessary) how I shall further carry my self in the prosecuting of this I have begun, or any thing els you think necessary to be proposed, in this seasonable time. For the renewing of the treaty, (in my simple judgment) it will be very profitable, partly in regard of the assurance of the traffic depending upon it, but chiefly to engage the King, and to be somewhat retentive to him, that he be not carried away with so Maine a stream towards Rome and that side, as be hath of late seemed to be; but rather that some diffidence might be renewed by this means, between him and that side: which I would hold a point of very good advantage for us, and I know would greatly rejoyce all those of the religion in this realm, who begin to apprehend very much of his declination in affection from them, and are jealous of his too strict combination with the Pope and that party. And no doubt but it would be some good stay to the motions and designs in Scotland, which are greatly nourished by the conceit of this King's alienation from us, and consequently of the declination of our party, and the growth of the other. If there be any opposition made, in respect of abatement of customs that must follow on both parts, I suppose you may rule that point as you will, and begin a new from this day; leaving the matter of customs and impositions, in the same state it is in: for they have reason to be well contented with it, having raised since that treaty three times as much upon our commodities, as the Queen hath done upon theirs. But I think rather, the merchants that trade hither, might be induced to make good unto her Majesty, that which she should lose by it, so there might be an abatement generally of all that hath been raised since that treaty, and some certainty established for their trade hereafter. For the complaint I made against those of Rochelle, as well upon the proclamation sent me over from my lords of the council, as likewise upon another they have published since, (enjoining all foreign merchants upon a pain, to bestow the sixth part of the value of all the merchandise they utter there, upon wine of that country and other commodities proper to that place ;) monsieur de Villeroy told me yesterday, that the King had written unto them, commanding them to inform him upon what grownd they had presumed to make such ordinances of themselves without his privity, and forbidding them to put them in execution till his pleasure were known. Monsieur de Villeroy complained unto me, (but in some milder sort than he hath used at other times ,) of great spoils done by some ships of ours within the streights upon the coast of provence; and the King himself told me, they had taken six or seven French ships. I gave them the best assurance I could, of her majesties intention to do good justice upon such offenders, upon proof made against them; and said that these outrages might perhaps be committed by some pyrates, which were not avowed by the state, but proscribed and proclaimed for such, which were entertained as we understood, by some princes of Italy. And therefore I prayed him to suspend his conceit, until it were known who were the actors in the offense. Monsieur de Villeroy said we did our selves much dishonor, and made our nation infamous generally for such misdemeanors; and alleged, that the Signory of Venice had upon like occasion stayed all our ships there; that the grand Duke had once done the like, but that the King temporized, hoping in the end to receive some satisfaction. By occasion of these ordinary complaints against us, for spoils committed without any restitution, I have had a particular conceit which I will be bold to impart to your honor: that for such offenses against this nation as fall out to be plain, and whereupon it will be sit to award restitution, her Majesty should take the benefit of that restitution, and assign over to the complainants, so much of the King's debt to her for their satisfaction; they likewise resigning to her, all their action and demand against the offenders. This course the King cannot except against, and by this means either he will become less eager in the prosecuting of such matters, or at least her Majesty shall receive some part of her money, sooner than otherwise she should do. Of the King's journey to Lyons, we are not yet certain when it will begin, depending much upon the assurance or doubt of the Duke of Savoy's performance of his treaty; whereof I send your honor a copy, though it have been kept here as a very great secret. The common speech is, he will be at Lyons by the end of may. But if that occasion hasten him not, in respect of the Princess of Florence's coming, he shall not need to set forward so soon; for I understand she stayeth till the grande duchess be delivered, who is desirous to accompany her, and who is not yet passing five months gone with child, so as it will be the end of September or later ere she can arrive; before which time the King will have six galleys ready to conduct her, which are now building at Marseilles. The Duke of Guise is already departed towards Provence, to assist at the Estados held there, and to prepare for the King's coming, and the entertainment of him and the Princess when she arrives. The marshal of Biron is likewise gone into his government of Burgundy, and Monsieur Lesdiguières into Dauphiné. I have received advertisement from sundry hands, confirmed also by monsieur de Villeroy unto me, that there are 25 galleys prepared in Spain to be brought down into the low countries as soon as the season will permit it: and for that purpose perhaps, they will take the opportunity of this treaty. But if you see no likelihood of the proceeding of it, I hope order will be given that they shall not have too easy a passage. I remember elliot told me, their purpose was the last summer to have brought their galleys to milford, so to have kept both the channel to bristol, and to have barred the passage into Ireland. We know not what design they may have now, but one thinks before there be any meeting, it would be accorded on both sides, that there should be nothing innovated nor attempted by either, during the conference, nor in certain time after. Sir James Lindsay, brother to the Earl of Crawford, is shortly (as I hear) to go for Spain. The Earl Bothwell is already gone thither, having received but only 400 crowns of the Archduke at his departure, to carry him thither. Here hath passed of late certain challenges between Monsieur du Plessis and the Bishop of Évreux, whereof I send your honor copies. Whether it will come to any issue or nay I know not, but believe rather that the sorbon will binder it; for I hear they interpose themselves, and that the Nuncio hath likewise excepted against it, as done without the Pope's privity. In the mean time here are certain gentlemen, whereof one of good account called saulle marie de mont of normandy, which forsook their religion, and became romanists against this Easter. But in exchange, there was a sur-intendant of the finances called manpeau, of good account, that declared himself of our religion, and came to the communion on Easter day .. Of the progress of the states forces in bommelerwaard, against the sorts of crevecoeur and St. Andrè, I am sure your honor is better advertised then we can be here. The Archduke's forces are drawn into the field under the command of done aloyfe de velasco and the Marquis of berghes. The admirante was removed from that charge, upon an intention to employ him in the treaty: but by the coming of carillo he is eased of that pain, but not restored to his former place, at which he is much discontented; and the matter had like to have grown to a great quarrel between him and velasco, the spaniards taking part with the one, and the italiens with the other. It is thought if they can reduce the mutineers, they will be able to bring into the field some 15000 men of all sorts. This is all I have to advertise your honor at this time. And therefore I will here conclude most humbly taking my leave and resting. Your honor's most, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
08 April 1600
Henry Neville to French King
ID: letter_058
the 8th of April 1600 S I r e, s u r ce qui a efté refpondu de la part de vostre majesté par monsieur de Villeroy, à la proposition faicte dernierement par l'ambassadeur de la royne d'angleterre: le dit ambassadeur faict declarer à vostre majesté, que pour ce qui concern la confirmation des traictes, il en eft demeure sort fatisfaict, & croit fermement, que la royne fa soveraine en recevra grande contentment. Mais pour ce qui eft du reimbursement de quelque somme d'argent ceste annie pour luy foubvenir en fes neceffitez & occasions prefentes, il trouvé la dite refpouce imparfaille & incertaine; & desire partant, qu'il vous plaise luy en declarer vostre plaisir plus ouvertement, & ne le point remettre au temps de la confirmation dudit traicté, estant chose qui n'en depend aucunement, & qui a efté traictée par ledit ambassadeur feparément, & à laquelle il a eu promeffes reiterées de promte responce avant qu'il propofaft dernierement le renouvellement des traictez: joinct l'aufly, que c'est le point qui importe le plus à la royne, & auquel elle eft plus preffée de defirer de fcavoir l'intention de vostre majesté; afin que prenant par arguments d'effect & non de paroles seulement, pleine asseurance de vostre affection & amitié, elle s'en puisse entierement fonder, comme fur une base & colonne ferme de son estat. Et à ceste fin le dit ambassadeur fupplić bumblement votre majesté, de luy declarer quelle somme vous avez deliberé de payer à la dite dame c'est année, & en quel term, eftant bien content, que la conclusion du paiement annuel fe puisse remettre au traicté. Et fi vostre majesté desire pour quelques raifons, que ces deux points, du reimbursement de l'argent; & du renouvellement des le moins donner à la royne une promesse & assignation affeurée de quelque somme, payable fur la fignature dudit traicté de fa part; & desire que vostre bon plaisir foit de luy faire donner prompte responce à tout ce que dessus. HENRY NEVILLE.
09 April 1600
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_059
Right honorable, Paris 9th April 1600. O. S. I wrote unto you lately by a Servant of mine own, advertiseing you what propositions I had made unto the King, to discover his intentions in the most material points I had negotiated with him since my coming; that so her Majesty being fully cleared what account and assurance she could make of him, might resolve with better ground in this her great business. The Saturday after I dispatched him, monsieur de Villeroy came unto me, and brought me this answer, that the King's intent and desire, was not only to entertain all former treaties and alliances made with her Majesty and her predecessors, and namely that of 1572, but to fortify and renew them, and if need were, to increase them: protesting of the King's exceeding affection towards her Majesty, and of his great obligation that he acknowledged to owe her; and therefore made offer, that the King would send purposely into England, as soon as it should please her Majesty, a man of very good quality; to conclude, and perform what should be sit, touching that treaty. And that the same party should have power likewise to agree of the time, and forme of repayment of her money, both for this present year, and for an annual sum till the debt were discharged: and likewise to determine of some good course to her Majesty's contentment, touching the two last points contained in my proposition. I replied, that the answer was unperfect and uncertain in the first and chiefest point I had proposed, touching the money: which had no affinity with the other matter of the treaty, which I had always severally negotiated, and wherein the King had engaged himself by many promises to give me a speedy answer; and said, that if the King had any purpose to give her Majesty contentment therein, I saw no reason why he should refuse to declare it, his estate being already perfected for this year, and four months of it already past, and the season come, wherein her Majesty might with reason expect, rather to receive money then to debate of it. That no treaty could bind the King to the payment of the money more strongly, then he was already bound, nor yet make him more able to do it. That by performing in some measure the contracts he had already made, he should give the Queen more cause to trust the treaty he offered to renew: whereas otherwise, refusing to satisfy herein the least demand she could make him, (but wherein she had greatest reason and justice of her side ,) he gave her little cause to hope of favor and assistance, in any greater measure, if she should need it. Therefore I prayed I might receive a more direct and plain answer in the matter of the money, without which I should have little comfort to relate the rest. And for that purpose I desired him to procure me audience of the King with some expedition. He said he would relate my speech unto the King, and procure me audience if he could. The next day I solicited my audience both by him and monsieur de gondy, but could not obtain it. The morrow after early the King went to St. Germans, promising to return that night, but came not till the next day after dinner, and that evening departed towards Fontainebleau, to be private and take the diet for 10 or 12 days. Wherefore seeing I was not like to have access unto him of a good time, I made a little short reply in writing, (whereof I send a copy) upon monsieur de Villeroy's promise to present it to the King, and to procure me an answer. This morning I went to him to receive the answer, which he delivered me in this sort; that whereas I desired to know certainly what sum of money the King would pay her Majesty this year, he could not absolutely give me answer, nor would he resolve, till he heard an answer of his last dispatch he made into England, which he hoped would give her Majesty good contentment. In the mean time he prayed me to have patience, and to interprete the best of his answer, both in mine own conceit, and in my report to her Majesty. Now, Sir, to deliver you my conceit: of this matter, this it is, they are infinitely desirous to break off this treaty of peace, or if that cannot be, at the least to bold the chief place and interest in her Majesty's amity: and for that purpose are willing to renew the treaties. But they are jealous that her Majesty hath no intention to do it, and found themselves therein, (as monsieur de Villeroy himself discovered in speech unto me) upon some cold answer, monsieur de boissise received in that matter about two months since, ether from her Majesty or your honor. And I learn for certain, and by good means, that monsieur de Villeroy takes all this that I have done, to proceed from me, of office as they term it, only to found them, and draw some promise of money from them; which done, her Majesty (he thinks) hath no purpose to renew the treaties. But if it please her Majesty to clear them of that doubt, and to offer to renew the treaties, upon condition they will pay her such a sum of money as she shall think sit this year, (which notwithstanding will hardly be above 200000 crowns, if so much ,) and assure her of an annual payment till the debt be discharged; ether you shall draw that contentment and assurance from them which you would, (as I verily believe you may at this time) or you shall gaine another point of no small advantage, namely, to discover that you are not to trust or build upon any thing from them at any time. For if they will do nothing now, (her Majesty's occasions to maintain her wars, and their own interests to assure her amity so seasonably requiring it ,) you may make a sure conclusion, that no other occasion will draw it from them. And account which happily she makes of this King. But as I said, I rather believe the former: and the better to draw them to it, it will not be amiss to entertain the treaty with Spain, whether you think to conclude it or nay, at least till you have received from hence the satisfaction you look for. And though you should both intend and see likelihood to conclude a peace with Spain, I see not why it should not be good for the Queen to defer it so long, till she might both assure her merchants state and trade here, and draw hence peradventure fifty or threescore thousand pound: whereof the peace being once made, she is in danger never to see a penny. They will not offer to bind you not to make peace with Spain, but only seek to assure themselves, that you will not make alliance with Spain against them, which is the thing they extremely fear, and whereof in my poor opinion they would be held in doubt, till you monsieur de Villeroy's suspicion, and overthrow the very ground of all. Next I desire to have an answer with all possible speed. Monsieur de Villeroy received a packet upon Monday last from monsieur de boissise in four days: I suppose it imports somewhat; coming in such haste, though I cannot learn what. The last week before he brought me my answer, he sent away in great speed, which made me likewise send away my Servant at the same time. I understand he sends again to morrow, and therefore I have dispatched this Messenger, willing him to take post all the way, that he may prevent his currier if it be possible. Your honor will be pleased to have some consideration of him accordingly, for sure the ordinary allowance in that case will scarce defray the charge. The King purposes about the 10th of may to begin his journey toward Lyons, which argueth that he is not fully assured of the Duke of Savoy, though his Ambassador here entertain him with many faire promises. Your honor sees, that if you will have any thing negotiated with this King, you must lose no time. Monsieur de Villeroy told me, if the Queen would, the King would send within these three weeks to renew the treaty. I beseech your honor, if you will have any thing done, use speed in directing me, and send by an ordinary Messenger, for gentlemen that bring packets make no haste. And so, & c. Your honor's most, & c. HENRY NEVILLE. The party whom the King doth purpose to send to be installed in the order for him, is monsieur de chattes governor of Dieppe; who, as monsieur de Villeroy doth assure me, shall have commission to treat likewise of these points which herein have been mentioned. The states have already this year received 50000 crowns here, and are promised 50000 more in June next, with assurance also of 100000, to be paid them before the end of this year. Memoire prefenté au roy le 11 d'avril 1600. Sir, l'ambassadeur de la royne d'angleterre ayant receu commandment de s'apprefter pour fe trouver à ceste affemblée des deputies à Boulogne, ou il I a apparence qu'il trouverà aussy quelques uns des principaux conseilliers des fa majesté, qui luy commanderont paraventure de leur faire rapport de ce qu'il a negocié avecq vostre majesté depuis fa venüe, & de la responce qu'il en a tirée, afin qu'eftant bien esclaircis de la volonté & intention d'icelle, ilz puissent traicté: supplie pourtant treshumblement vostre majefié, de luy faire declarer avant qu'il part, vostre plaisir & resolution determinée aux points suyvans, lesquels il vous a cy devant à diverfes fois propofés, fans toutesfois en avoir peu recevoir la satisfaction qu'il desiroit. Premierement, que suyvant la promesse que vostre majesté a souvent faicte à la dite dame royne, par le dit ambassadeur, que par le fien en angleterre, de luy repayer ceste année quelque bonne somme de ce qu'elle luy prefta durant fes troubles, il luy plaise declarer quelle satisfaction elle entende faire à la face, qu'autrement. Secondement, qu'ayant vostre majesté fait entendre par ay devant an dit ambassadeur, que vostre intention eft, non seulement d'obferver & entretenir les traictes faictes avec ladite dame tant par vostre majesté que par vos predecesseurs & mesmes celuy de l'an 1572, mais aussy de les confirm, & renouveller, & les augmenter fi il en eft besoign: il vous plaise declarer audit ambassadeur plus particulierement vostre volontê la dessus, a fçavoir, quant au dit traiclé de l'an 1572; puis qu'il semble, qu'une simple fignification de vostre intention, n'eft pas fuffifante pour le remeclre en force, ains qu'il aura besoign d'eftre expressement relouvellé, quand & en quelle sort vostre majesté intend de proceder à la confirmation d'iceluy, & que c'eft qu'elle desire d'I adjoufter; afin que la dite dame fe puisse esclaircir de vostre intention, & fçavoir le fondement & asseurance qu'elle pourra faire de vostre amitié en tous evenemens. Tiercement, puis qu'il ny a rien plus contraire à la condition de boune amitié & aux traiflés mesmes que vostre majesté a faits avecq la dite dame, que de permettre que vos subjects aillent fervir aux navires des ennemis de la dite dame, au prejudice notable d'icelle, ce que vostre majesté a promis au dit ambassadeur de ne pas permettre doresnavant, mais d'en faire les defenses requises, qu'il plaise à vostre majefté declarer, en quelle sort elle intend d'I proceder, en cas que la guerre duré entre la dite dame, & le roy d'efpagne, & l'archiduc. En qyatrieme lien, fur ce que vostre majesté a cy devant aussy declaré au dit ambassadeur, que fou intention w'eft que fes subjects abufent de la liberté du trafficq & commerce en Espagne au prejudice de la dite dame, en y portant de la France, ou d'ailleurs, arms, munitions, artillerie, poudres, ou autres choses propres & necessaires pour l'equippage & attelage des navires, qui de faict ne fe peuvent simplement & proprement conter cutre les marchandises, mais ont tousjours efté subjects à un regulation particuliere; qu'il plaise à vostre majesté, declarer au dit ambassadeur fa volonté particulierement la dessus, en quelle sort elle a deliberé de l'empefcher, ou permettre que la dite dame l'empefche, en cas que la paix ne fe face avec le dit roy d'espagne. HENRY NEVILLE.
24 April 1600
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_060
Right honorable, Paris 24th April 1600, o. S. I received more than 8 days since your honor's letter by Mr. Townshend, which I have deferred to answer hitherto for want of a Messenger. And this being the first opportunity offered, I would not omit it; but was willing to let your honor understand, that I have placed Mr. Townfhend in a minister's house, where I am sure he shall be very well used, and have many helps both for the language and any other study he affects; which he could not have elsewhere. The charge of his lodging and diet will be ten crowns a month, which I will see disbursed from time to time as it shall be due, and likewise furnish him for his other wants as your honor requireth. I will be careful also to look into his conversation, so to make some judgment of him whether he be sit for that employment that your honor designs him for, which I know to be of great regard and importance unto you. Since my last by simons, there hath happened no great matter worth the advertising. The King hath been and yet is, at Fontainebleau in his diet, which he began on Friday last, and will finish to morrow; during which time there have been some offers and tenders of a conference between monsieur du plessis, and the Bishop of Évreux, but they cannot agree of the form and method of it. The journey to Lyons holds, so as the King doth appoint to keep the feast of the order du St. Esprit at Moulins upon Whitsunday, having now transferred it from new-years-tide till that time, as more proper for it. We begin to be uncertain of the Princess of Florence's arrival; it is thought the King will not let her stay for the grand duchess's company, but will hasten her coming so, as she may be at Marseilles in June or July, because he would make a speedier return into these parts. Her dowry will be about 400 thousand crowns, besides some 250 thousand that the Duke had Lent this King, which shall be drowned as parcel of her portion. The Count Fuentes soldiers are already arrived in part at Genoa, and himself with the rest is expected presently. He comes with the same authority that the Duke d'alva had in the war against paul the 4th: namely to command all the Spanish forces, (if occasion be) in Milan, Naples and Sicily, and with commission to levy 6000 Swiss, and to make an army of 20000 men, if need be. He brings with him a million of treasure. This makes all men (as I wrote ,) doubtful of the Duke of Savoy, yet his ministers entertain the King with good words, and in outward demonstration he seems to believe them: yet he hath already sent away the Duke of Vendôme's company of horse to attend him at Moulins, and the regiment of his gardt hath order to march that way likewise. There is an emblem that passeth here underhand, whereby some shrewd conceited fellow would represent the Present state of France. The devise is this, a globe supported by four pillers, every piller representing a principal personage, as the one the chancellour, with this word inutilis aequitas; another Monsieur de Rosny, with this word, utilis iniquitas; the third the Marshal Biron, with this word, fidelis temeritas; the fourth monsieur de Villeroy with this word prudens infidelitas: upon the topp of the globe the King is made sitting with this word, infelix felicitas. After great and long instance made by the Pope's ministers, the King hath assented to the reception and authorizing the council of trent in this realm, and there is an arrest of the privy council already given for it. Not long since the Chancellor proposed the matter to the presidents and chief counselors of the parliament, sent for purposely to his own house; requiring them in the King's name, to ratify that which had been done by the council. Their answer was, that it was a matter that had been often offered unto that court, and thoroughly debated, but always rejected, as dangerous and derogatory to the estate, liberty, and honor of this crown; and that they saw not what new reason could be alleged for it now, more than had been heretofore, which might make them differ in judgment and opinion from those that had possessed their places in former times, and therefore desired not to be pressed in it. The Chancellor in the end replied with some choller, that if they would not do it with their good wills, there would be means found that they should be forced to do it. Which speech of his was found very strange by them, and very offensively taken. Since I hear, they are commanded to certify unto the council, all the asts and proceedings that have been formerly in that court, touching that matter. It is a thing that all men look after, especially those of the religion who apprehend a very great disadvantage by it; although it is not interded to pass, but with reservation of the liberty granted by the King's edict. The King hath been much troubled to retire a promise he made in writing under his band unto Mademoiselle d'entragues, to marry her if she proved with child within six months after he enjoyed her. She was very resolute a while not to depart with it, but to keep it for the justification of her honor; that it might appear, she yielded not to him upon any base or dishonest consideration, but upon such a direct promise of marriage: and she did likewise for a time refuse him her company, pretending that she was so enjoined by her confessor at Easter. But since, both honor and conscience have given place to profit; she hath delivered up the writing, and the King must give her a pension of 6000 crowns a tear, and to her father and mother to each of them a pension of 4000 crowns a tear; and besides she must have in ready money 100000 to marry her. Upon this accord, they have met again at Fontainebleau according to their former manner, (ut dicitur) notwithstanding the confessors inhibition. But in this mean time of unkindness between them, the King was no unprovided, but had sundry haunts in this town; and among the rest within three houses of me, whence I think he will not be long absent, for he is expected in town upon Friday or Saturday, and his council likewise. These petty matters I am bold to write your honor, to give some satisfaction to the postscript of your last letter, which I therefore beseech you to interpret the best of. And so hoping every hower of some answer to my two last letters, because I hear monsieur de villeroye's curryer is returned, I humbly take my leave. Your honor's most, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
27 April 1600
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_061
Right honorable, Paris 27th April 1600. O. S. I received yesterday in the evening by simons, your honor's dispatch of the nyneteenth of this month, and do attend an opportunity to negotiate with this King as I am therein directed, which I fear will not be these five days at the soonest. For the King comes this day from Fontainebleau, and will ether entertain himself with some pastime by the way, or if he come to this town, it will be for his secret pleasure, and so, as he will not be known to be here till his council come likewise, which will not be till Tuesday at the soonest. I will urge my audience with as much earnestness and expedition as I may, to the end I may bring with me a clear answer from the King in the points I have proposed; which I am exceeding glad that her Majesty hath so well prosecuted with the Ambassador there, and thereby avowed my proceeding here, which they were doubtful of. I hope we shall effect some good by it, although not in so great measure as you propounded to the Ambassador. But for the offering to authorize and revive the treaty only by letters between the princes: first I hold it very uncertain for the Queen's subjects, who cannot plead that in any court of justice as they may the treaty, and thereby must needs stand at the will and courtesy of the King's officers here, and be subject to innovations, which will be daily offered; as there is one at this instant, by a decree of the council (notwithstanding my opposition) forbidding any cloth to be brought into this realm but white or dyed in the wool, which cuts off the chief of our trade into Brittany, gascony, and Rochelle, where our dyed clothes of all colors are best vented. Of which innovation, (as likewise of all other to our prejudice ,) the renewing of the treaty will be the only remedy, and reduce things to a certitude. And seeing we intend to have some treaty with France, why should we not as well desire to have that, as any other, being the most beneficial and the most honorable for England, that ever was made between these two crowns? Secondly, I fear that this offer being made them, they will lay hold of it, and the King will presently write bis letters declaratosy therein to the Queen, and thereby draw the like from her, and afterwards make no great haste to content her for the money: for (as I wrote before) it is the treaty that must draw on the money from hence, though her Majesty have reason to distinguish them, and not to tie her self to any conditions or obligation for receiving her own. But seeing it is their desire to renew the treaty, and a thing no way prejudicial, but rather profitable to her Majesty: it is good in my poor opinion to make use of it, to pull on the contentment desired in the other point; and not to give them any hope of reviving the treaty, either directly, or by interpretation, without satisfaction about the money; or any cause to mistrust, that it is the money only we seek, and that we do not greatly desire the alliance; for in both these cases, they will be found left forward to give her Majesty the contentment she expects. The surest way, in my poor opinion, is to agree of a sum to be paid upon the conclusion or signature of the treaty; and for the more expedition, that present commission and power to be given to the Ambassador there, to treat and conclude it. I have sent your honor a note of the King's debts to her Majesty, such as I the verification of the most, I brought over copies of the bonds, and Mr. Meredith's accounts, signed and attested by your honor: but for the charge of the forces in Picardy, (after the first six months, for which there is a bond of the King's) and for the 30000 l. Lent in the year 1587, and for the charge of the army levied by the Prince of aubalt, and the 6000 l. For the charge of the forces brought over by my Lord willougbby; I have nothing but a note your honor sent me to Blois the last summer, out of which I have taken that which I have alleged in my memorial touching those particulars. An. 1600. For satisfaction made here upon complaints of any englishman in matter of piracy absolutely, I must say I know none as yet. In Mr. Alderman watts his complaint against those of Rochelle, there is a judgment in the admiralty, from which the other side hath appealed, and so it depends. In another cause, (wherein he with others have appealed from a very injurious sentence given by the judge of Rochelle, confirmed as injuriously by the marble table here) the King's advocat, when it was pleaded in the chamber of the edict, made his conclusion, that our men were not to be received and admitted to the appeal, because they had not begun it within a year and a day after the sentence was given, from which they appealed; whereupon the court toke time to be advised. What they will judge yet I know not, but if they judge it so, I think they will at once wipe away most of our complaints. For the custom hath been, presently upon any prize taken, to get it jugded good prize by the judge of the place, which was an easy matter; and then our men that had the wrong, (having little hope during the troubles of France to obtain any justice) intermitted for the most part their suits; and so by this means (if it be established for law) they shall be utterly excluded from any remedy. I have interposed my self in it as far as I may, and so mean to continue; with what success, will appear when it is judged. The points which were stood upon between the French and spanyards for precedence at their last treaty, I shall hardly be able to get knowledge of. For there is none here that was a Commissioner in it but the Chancellor; and how I shall draw it from him I know not. Directly sure I shall not, but I will do the best I can by oblique means. The King hath been much troubled with the news he hath received from Rome, that the demoniaque woman (whose imposture was discovered here in Lent was twelve-month) is come to Rome, and there in her pangs hath delivered much scandalous matter against him; as if he were a dissembled huguenot and no catholique, and that he did but watch his time to declare himself, and to do some notable prejudice to the catholiques in favor of the heretics. Whereof I dare undertake he is nothing guilty, but do rather persuade my self, be will prove the most dangerous ennemy that our religion hath. He is very careful to stop this scandal, and hath written earnestly to the Pope to clear himself, and to have the demoniaque punished. He hath proceeded against the abbot of St. Martin in berry, (who carried her to Rome) by adjournment personal, and by seizure of his benefices. And to give a better taste of himself to that side, whom he wholly seeks to content, he hath declared himself very partial and passionate, in this conference between monsieur du plessis and the Bishop of d'evreux. An essay whereof your honor may take by his letter written with his own hand to monsieur d'Espernon, who is now in great show of favor with him. On the other side the Count Soissons went from the court in great displeasure and discontentment; in so much as I here, the King hath given order to stay the payment of his pensions .. In some, Sir, I assure your honor there are infinite discontentments here, and especially amongst those of the religion, who receiving nothing but distaste and diffidence in all that concerns them, (ether publicly or privately) begin to retire and to rely themselves, with purpose to stand upon their gard and strength. And the opinion of all men is, that this state will not continue long without troubles. In which subject I have had some overtures made, which I cannot now relate. I hear our English fugitives have been very well entertained of late in the low-contries, and have their pensions (which were once suspended) revived again, with promise of the arrearages, and to be better favoured then ever. What may be concluded of this your honor can best judge. And so, & c. Your honor's very, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
06 May 1600
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_097
Right honorable. Being earnestly desired by Mr. Thorpe one of the Clerks of her Majesty. works, to recommend his suit unto your honor for a reversion of one of the higher places in that kind, in respect of some trial I have had of his honest care and sufficiency, in such things as he hath undertaken for me, I am bold to satisfy his request therein, as much as without presumption I may, and to beseech your honors good favor towards him, the rather at my humble recommendation; which shall greatly increase my former obligations and bind me to remain, as I am and ever desire to be held, Your honor 's. most dutiful at commandment from Paris 6º. Maÿ 1600. Henry Neville.
08 May 1600
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_142_cecil_1600_05_08_barbary
Right honorable.
This bearer a Scottish gentleman, with whom I had some acquaintance at Paris, is employed, as it seemeth me, in a charitable work for the deliverance of two Scottish noblemen, that by misfortune were taken at sea, about sixteen yeares past, & sold into Barbary; where they have ever since continued in bondage, wherein because it is known that her Majesty's favour & recommendation may better advance his purpose, then any other means I can use, he is first addressed hither, to sue for the same in party, hoping to find her Majesty the more gracious, because the parties themselves & their friends were followers of the regent Moreton, always devoted to the religion, & to the prince, and themselves forced to retire out of Scotland, when the adverse faction prevayled, in which retreat they were taken, & fell into this misery. Now because having knowledge & end of his business at Paris, he hath requested me to present him unto your honor, which I would gladly have done personally, but that I find not my self in case to walk abroad as yet. And therefore I have made bold to give him some address unto your honor by my letters, referring the particular of his suit unto his own relation. And therein I humbly take my leave, & remain ever
Your honors most dutiful at commandment,
Henry Neville
09 May 1600
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_062
Right honorable, Paris 9th may 1600, o. S. I received yesternight your letters by Captain primme, whereby I perceive, as it pleases you to write, that this cup cannot pass from me, and therefore I resolve to submit my self to her Majesty's will, hoping that no more will be exacted of me than my means and warning could afford. Within two days after my last dispatch, understanding that the King's purpose of coming to this town was altered, (by reason of monsieur d'alincourt's return from Rome and Florence ,) I sent to Fontainebleau to demand audience, and received answer, that the King would be in town the Friday after, and therefore prayed me to have patience till then. He came indeed the Friday, but I could not get audience till Sunday in the afternoon, at which time I presented him her Majesty's letters, declared the contents of them, and afterwards delivered what I had in charge. The King answered little, and indeed less than at any time he hath been accustomed, whereby I guess he was not the best contented. He only said, that he had no intent to couple the Queen's satisfaction for her money, and the renewing of the treaties so together, as if he meant the one should depend necessarily upon the other; but he had proposed them both together, as things he thought would have been both acceptable to her Majesty. I told him they were both things acceptable to her, and therefore she had given me charge to signify, that she was ready to renew the treaties whensoever it should please him, if he thought they needed any confirmation. But for the an. 1600. Reasons alleged to his Ambassador, (which I likewise repeated unto him) I said her Majesty was willing it should be rather managed and negotiated by his said Ambassador, than by any other expressly sent about it. And that the point which her Majesty misliked was this, that there was no certain offer made her of any present satisfaction for this year, whereof she expected some assurance long ere this. And therein I did earnestly urge his resolution before my departure, that I might carry with me some certainty in this matter, which I had negotiated ever since my coming. He told me he would advise of it, and that I should have an answer: adding little, but only some news which he said he had received, that Count maurice had surprised velasco's troops in three of their quarters, and defeated them; who was thereupon retired, and the sort upon his retreat entered into parle, (which since we hear is rendered as your honor writes .) And that the great rich of this late indian fleet, is far short of that it was first bruted to be, and instead of 16 millions, is now certainly known not to amount to above nine, whereof not above two and a half to the King's use; which he said would not suffice to pay the party which he made with the genoese for the last, and this present year. Touching Mr.Thynne, whose cause I opened unto him at large, he answered nothing, but willed me to give him a note of it, and his council should consider of it, and give me answer. The next day being Monday, I sent to monsieur de Villeroy, to desire him to be a means to procure me an answer to those things I had dealt with the King in with some convenient expedition, that I might make some report of it before my departure hence, as her Majesty expected, and had given me in charge to do. But the man was very waspish, and would give no other answer, but that he would do as the King should command him. That afternoon the King went to St. Germans, and so about the country, with a purpose not to return till Saturday. But on the Tuesday morning the council went to him to St. Germans, and returned that night. On the morrow I sent again to monsieur de Villeroy, signifying that I had commandment from her Majesty to press an answer, and that I stayed only for it, and offering to come that afternoon to him to receive it. He prayed me to forbear him a day or two: so on Thursday in the afternoon I went unto him, having before been with the Chancellor about Mr. Thynne's cause, and obtained promise that it should be heard this day. I told monsieur de Villeroy, what letters I had delivered from her Majesty to the King, and what I had further dealt with him in according to my charge, praying again I might receive an answer to carry with me, as the King had promised me. He said, the King would write answer to the Queen's letters, and send them to his Ambassador. I replied, that I had delivered most of my charge in speech, which required an answer, as well as the letters; and urged him to let me understand the King's pleasure therein. Whereupon, (although he would not give me any direct answer till he had spoken again with the King ,) yet he was contented to enter into discourse of the points I had negotiated. And for the money, he said the Queen demanded impossibilities, requiring her whole debt at once. I told him it was not well understood, nor well reported unto him; and that the matter which passed between her and Monsieur de Boissise was nothing but this. When Monsieur de Boissise had twice or thrice urged her Majesty to declare what sum she required presently of the King, but withal offered nothing, she (taking it to be a kind of dalliance and impertinent proceeding with her) told him, that the King's bonds did declare sufficiently her demands; meaning, that if the King found any difficulty to satisfy the whole this year, it was rather sit for him to make offer of that he was able to pay her, than for her to apportion her debt. Wherein I said Monsieur de Boissise had been sufficiently cleared by your honor, and some other of her Majesty's council, with whom he had had particular conference after he had spoken with her Majesty. I (said he ,) they spoke to him of 300000 crowns, which is as impossible to the King to pay as the whole; and an. 1600. Thereupon fell to discourse of the King's great occasions of expense for his marriage, for the contentment of the Swiss, and for the uncertainty of the affairs with the Duke of Savoy. I replied, that there was none of these, to which he was by honor and justice more tied than to the satisfaction of the Queen, if he did but remember the state he was in when she Lent him her money, and the occasions she had now to redemand it; nether did it argue in them that due regard of her that she had deserved, to be so much more careful to give contentment to the Swiss than to her, as to pay them a million and a half this year, and to her nothing. I denied not but that the switzers amity had been profitable to this state, and so might be hereafter: but I avowed that they had never deserved better of this state than her Majesty had done, especially of this King: and that therefore she might as well look to be regarded in her so just demands, as the Swiss, or any other princes or state whatsoever. He said they were able to discern of the utility of their alliances, and to render to every one his due regard as should most import them. But for our demands, he said, they were such as they could not tell what to answer us, being very loath to refuse us, and yet not able to content us. From that matter he proceeded to the other of renewing the treaty; complaining, that whensoever they had offered to bring the matter to some issue, the Queen gave back; so had she done when upon my first motion of it, the King had assented to it at Blois: the like when their Ambassador had revived it some months since; and now again, when the King had offered to send one over purposely to conclude it, the Queen seemed willing rather to avoid it then to desire it, by referring it over to the handling of their ordinary Ambassador, which (considering the fresh example of our proceeding with him in the treaty for marine causes) gave them little hope of any speedy issue, but rather that we meant to draw it in length, which they saw no purpose of. He complained also, that her Majesty had refused to accompany the point of her satisfaction, with the other of renewing the treaty, which he conceived had been to have gone together, and would have been a means to have effected her Majesty's contentment the better: but that she had refused, even that which I had thought reasonable, to accept of some satisfaction upon the signature of the treaty. I answered, that her Majesty had sufficiently declared her intention in this matter, by commanding me at the first to move and press it. That the fault that it proceeded not when the King assented unto it at Blois, was theirs, not ours; for the breach or interruption of the treaty growing from their default, it was reason the renewing and reviving of it,should likewise proceed from them: and it was sufficient that her Majesty had summoned them unto it. Of any offer made afterwards by their Ambassador and refused by her Majesty, I never understood; and if there had been any, no doubt I should have been advertised of it. And for this late proceeding, her Majesty's intention was very clear; that she thought not to recoil, but to advance it by that she had signified unto Monsieur de Boissise; namely, that she was ready to enter into conference, and to treat with himself of it, whensoever the King would give him commission. Her desire it should be managed by him, rather than by any other expressly sent, was for such reasons, as she thought would have been as grateful to the King as to her; and can no way admit any such interpretation of a purpose of delay as he inferred, but must rather be held the readiest course for a quick dispatch of the business; the sending of another, requiring some length of time both for them to resolve, and for him that should be appointed to prepare. That her Majesty had great reason not to couple those two matters of the money and the treaty together, or to bind her self to conditions and capitulations to come by her own, which she had so frankly Lent. That she had made it sufficiently appear how willing she was to renew the amity, but that the justice of her demand for her money depended upon former exan. 1600. Press contracts, and not upon those which were offered to be renewed. Therefore it was fittest for both their honors, that the King should make her reimbursement absolutely without any condition, and that the amity should be likewise renewed simply, without reference to any thing, but to their good disposition and inclination one to the other. That the point which he said I my self had thought reasonable, was never refused by her Majesty, for it was never offered by their Ambassador. Finally, that in the conference between him and her Majesty's council about it, they had assented, (so that the King would give her Majesty the contentment she expected for this present year ,) that the future payments should be agreed on at the treaty. Which course of hers, I saw not why they should dislike or refuse, if they intended to proceed as sincerely as she did. His reply was not much, but that he would confer with the King, and then give me answer as he should be commanded. Touching a memorial of some complaints I had presented at my audience to the King, (whereof I send a copy) principally against an arrest of the privy council, the execution whereof I desired to be suspended, and the matter to be referred to a conference between deputies of both sides, as the treaty appoints, I had much contestation with monsieur de Villeroy, he upholding the arrest very impertinently, and pretending that it was no innovation, but a regulation, (as if it might not be both) and that it was not General but special for Rouen, which is manifestly false; and in respect it is General, it is most prejudicial to our trade, namely in Brittany, Gascony, and the adjacent parts. But in the end, I could draw no promise of satisfaction from him, although the King thought my request reasonable, but was fain to leave him to his obstinacy, and the matter to her Majesty's consideration; whereof I hold it very worthy, as a matter wherein it seems they mean to try her patience, how she will bear that which peradventure they intend, to her further prejudice. Monsieur de villeroyes chiefest subterfuge was recrimination, pretending that the contraventions were far greater on our side. But being urged to declare wherein, he persisted in generalities, which I told him I was not bound to answer. In the end he fell into his ordinary common place of our refusal of justice in marine causes. I told him if those were the things he meant, they were particular offenses, that deserved punishments; but no contraventions to the treaties by public authority, as those were which I complained of. And for those offenses, I told him there had been justice done in very many causes, as their Ambassador had acknowledged lately to her Majesty's council, shewing therein very good satisfaction, and that I marveled he would seem so well satisfied there, and complain so hotly here. He said he had written, that I had said in that kind heretofore unto him, but that he denied it was so; and said further, that they began now to be out of any hope of justice at all there; for they found some of our greatest men so interested and linked with the chief offenders, as they knew they should be always protected; and therefore they were resolved to take some course in it themselves henceforth, and to complain no more. In particular, he exclaimed of a great outrage done in December last upon a ship of St. Malo, where the men were murdered with exceeding cruelty and barbarousness, as he reports it, since he hath sent the party that complains unto me, and I have given him letters unto your honor and to the commissioners. This being the your honor with it with expedition, that it may give you some ground to judge by of their purpose; and because I understand monsieur de Villeroy hath likewise made a dispatch to their Ambassador. This bearer is the party that I mean to leave here behind me to follow the King; wherein because he is like to be long absent and far off, he was desirous for some special occasions of his own to make a step first into England, and so to return presently in post. The journey into those remote parts, is like to an. 1600. Be long and chargeable: it may please your honor therefore to set down what allowance he shall have, and whether he shall receive it from me, or directly out of the exchequer. It is conceived the King will not return into these parts till the next spring, but pass this winter after the Princess's coming, (which will not be till September at the soonest) in Languedoc and Guyenne; not without some purpose (as it is feared) to favor and fortify with his presence, a design he hath, to dismantle the towns bolden by those of the religion. Which if he do or attempt, it is like to prove the first act of the tragedy which all men expect here within short time. I understand there are two ships now finished in Calais, which were begun there by the Spaniards, while they possessed the town. The King hath given them leave to furnish them with ordnance and other necessaries, as I hear, and to depart at their pleasure. The Ambassador of Württemberg told me lately, that he had received advertisement from a friend of his in hamburg, that the King of Denmark makes very great preparation by sea, which gives occasion of much discourse, no man seeing any apparent cause for it. I do not doubt if any such thing be, but your honor is sufficiently advertised of it; yet I thought it my duty to relate what I heard of it, considering his demeanor the last summer toward our fishermen, and the northern jealousies. I send your honor here enclosed an offer brought unto me by the party himself that makes it, with great protestations of a desire to do somewhat that may recover her Majesty's favor, and his country. If you embrace it, he desires it be not communicated to any more than her Majesty and your self. For into your honor's hands he saith he will put his life, but into no man's els; acknowledging you dealt honorably with him, when some other held a contrary course. The King returns not till to morrow night, so that I have but Sunday to receive his answer, and to kiss his hands; for upon Monday I must needs set forward, the day of meeting being the Friday after at Boulogne. And so, & c. Your honor's most, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
14 May 1600
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_063
Right honorable, between Amiens and Abbeville, 14th May 1600. O.S. I could not have access to the King till Sunday in the evening, and even that was obtained with great difficulties and reckoned to me as a great favor, being upon so festival a day. The King of himself entered into the discourse of this treaty, and of the difficulties he conceived might grow out of the demands on their part, which he supposed would be these. That the cautionary towns should be rendered, or at the least that they might be free for them to have access unto, as the other parts of the Queen's dominions were. That the traffic of our people should be either wholly withdrawn from Holland and Zeeland, or at least indifferently established in his provinces, as well as there; and that her Majesty should join with him to free and secure the passage from the Hollanders, that would seek to impeach it. On our part he supposed also that there would be required liberty of traffic into all the King of Spain's dominions, and namely to the indies; and that it should not be lawful for that King, upon any pretence against the Hollanders, to bring any great navy into the narrow seas, nor above a certain number, such as should nether breed jealousy nor danger to our state. About which points an. 1600. He thought there would be much disputing, and that before any conclusion were made, there would be occasion to send once or twice in Spain, which would draw the treaty to some length. He said also, that there would grow some controversy about precedence and the point of honor. Whereupon I took occasion to demand of him, how that point was agreed upon at vervin. He said the matter came not much in question, by reason that the meetings were ever at the legate's lodging, who kept always the end of the table; and that his ambassadors had the right hand of the table, and the other the left. His opinion was, that it were best to determine it now by lot, without consequence or prejudice to either side. But monsieur de Villeroy, who was present said, that was not enough, for we had ever had the place till Charles the 5th's time, and since it was never decided. So that we were in possession of the precedence, and to refer it now to lot, were to make it questionable, and to put it in doubt by our own act and consent, which be thought we intended not. After these speeches, I offered to take my leave of him, desiring to receive his commandments to her Majesty and his answer to those things I had dealt with him in by her appointment. He told me he would send his answer to his own Ambassador; which for any thing I can guess, will not be much to her majesties contentment. For the preface he used, of his great occasions of expense this year, by reason of his marriage, (which he said would cost him 500000 crowns ,) of the contentment he was forced to give the Swiss, and of the uncertain terms he stood in with the Duke of Savoy, methought tended to no good conclusion to uftward. Monsieur de Villeroy said the same in effect. If nothing come upon these occasions and respects, as I have heretofore written, I think her Majesty may very surely make account never to receive any thing from him, and shall do well in my poor judgement not to build any deliberatian upon it, nor upon any other assistance from hence. For the friendship is very hollow, and will grow every day more unsound, as his combination with Rome groweth more straight, to which be is wholly carried by those that do absolutely govern him. The next day in the morning after I was come away, a man of monsieur de villeroyes brought this enclosed to her Majesty to my house, which was presently sent after me. What it contains I know not, for I had no copy sent me: but whatsoever it be, I thought it sit to send it away by the first opportunity; and withal to beseech your honor that we may receive full direction, how to carry our selves in this point of precedence at Boulogne. For I fear it will be a difficile point; and not being accommodated, will hinder much our proceeding, and take up much time in the parerga of the treaty. At my coming from Paris, I left the journey to Lyons fully resolved, and the council almost ready to retire every man to his house for a little time, and so to proceed to Moulins, where the first rendezvous is. It is now determined, that the Princess of Florence comes not till September at the soonest. There will accompany her the Grand Duchess, the Duchess of Mantua, and the cardinal aldobrandino. All men hold, that without some extraordinary occasion recall him, the King will not return into these parts till the next summer. I beseech your honor therefore, to think of me with that favor that you have always vouchsafed me; it will be an infinite charge for me to follow him, and to very little purpose for any business of her Majesty's, which they are willing to put off upon any pretext, much more upon so colourable an excuse as this will be. The morrow after I dispatched my last Messenger unto your honor, the Chancellor at my instance heard extraordinarily Mr.Thynnes cause, and gave judgment that he should be enlarged, paying only fourscore pounds to his adverse party; so that I hope he is at liberty by this time. I gave the King thanks for it, and the Chancellor likewise, who best deserved it; and whom I take to be one of the honestest men in the state, though he be otherwise a great friend to Rome, and one that concurres with monsieur de Villeroy to persuade the King an. 1600. To run that course. This is all I will trouble your honor with at this time. And so, & c. Your honor's most, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
18 May 1600
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_065
Right honorable, Boulogne 18th may 1600. O.S. According to the commandment I received in your letter of the 13th of this month, I repaired hither to Boulogne; where I arrived upon Friday about five of the clock in the evening. At my coming, I found the Spanish Ambassador and the archduks audiencier arrived two houres before me; but the president Richardot came not till the evening following. Since our meeting, we have had sundry conferences both private and public. In our first private meeting with the president Richardot, we did only salute one another, and pass some compliments, with protestation of the sincere affection and desire that was in both our princes to make a peace. In our second private meeting, we descended to treat of the course we should bold in our treaty; and namely to agree of the time and place of our meeting: which was agreed should be in the forenoons, at the house of the spaniſh Ambassador, because he was sick and gouty. In our third meeting, (which was public, with all the commissioners on both sides) we began to speak of our commissions, and of the precedence. For the commissions, we showed them the copy of ours, and they promised us a copy of theirs. For the precedence, the president Richardot began to challenge it for the King of Spain, as the greater Prince; and said, that he had commandment from the King kis Master, not to treat, except it were yielded. We answered, that we merveiled that they would move a question which had been so long since decided; and that her Majesty did look for the precedence, as due unto her, and as her ancestors had enjoyed it before her. And so for that time we parted, without any conclusion. Yesterday being Saturday, we met again, and spent the whole time in debating the matter of precedence. We alleged our reasons, and precedents of former times; and they theirs. In the end, finding them peremptory, we proposed an overture; that (saving the right of both sides) we might proceed to the treaty of the business. But they absolutely refused it; saying, they had no power to treat, unless the precedence were granted them universally. We told them, that we had no commission to yield it; but would advertise her Majesty of their demand, and attend her pleasure. And so we brake off; they refusing to deliver us the copies of their commissions, until this controversy were decided. This is the sum of that which hath passed hitherto. Wherein I must needs say, I find the president Richardot to be a man of a very sharp wit, and a perverse disposition; and one that seems to seek all advantages to break off the treaty, rather then to conclude a peace. The Spanish Ambassador is a man of a milder temper, but wholy governed by the other. The audiencier is a man of no great sufficiency. I beseech your honor that we may receive her Majesty's resolution touching this point of precedence with all speed; for until then we can do nothing. And so I humbly take my leave. Your honor's most, & c. HENRY NEVILLE. An. 1600.
22 May 1600
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_066
Right honorable, Boulogne 22th may 1600. O.S. SInce my last of the 18th, we have had little conference with the adverse party, saving that on Sunday we sent to them to know if they would be content to exchange the copies of our commissions; which they refused, saying, they might not do it, until the question of precedence were agreed. On Monday we visited them at their lodging, and had some speech with them of the inconveniences that would ensue, if the treaty should break upon this point. They seemed sorry for it, but stood stiffly upon their instructions. In the mean time, we have endeavored to inform our selves of the affection of the country hereabouts towards the peace; and we find them all very desirous of it, especially the merchants, who hope thereby to have free traffic into Spain. We hear from Paris, that the King hath deferred his journey to Lyons for fifteen days, attending the coming of the Duke of Savoy, who is said to be on his way. The Edict of Nantes is verified in the parliament, but with some restrictions which are not pleasing to those of the religion. I have received a letter from Mr. Winwood, who remain at Paris; wherein he advertiseth me, that the King hath given order for the payment of the Swiss, but sayeth nothing of her Majesty's satisfaction. I have written to him to press it earnestly, and to let them know, that her Majesty will not be satisfied with words, whilst others are paid with money. I send your honor herewith a copy of the passport which the Archduke hath sent for her Majesty's commissioners; wherein you may see there is an omission of the title of defender of the faith; which we have noted unto them, and they promise it shall be amended in the commission. We attend her Majesty's pleasure with devotion; praying God to direct her councils to his glory and the good of her realm. Your honor's most, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
26 May 1600
ID: letter_064
HE commissioners for her Majesty, were Sir Henry Neville, her Majesty's legier Ambassador in France; john herbert Esquire, one of the masters of requests to her Majesty, and second Secretary of estate; Robert beale Esquire, Secretary to the council in the north; and thomas edmonds Esquire, Secretary for the French tongue. The commissioners for the King of Spain were, done Balthasar de cuniga, his Ambassador legier in the low countries, and fonseca. For the Archduke were, the president Richardot, and the audiencier verreykens. The commissioners met at Boulogne the 16th of may 1600. THE first dispute (which began the 17th of may) was about the precedence. We challenged it, (as due to her Majesty, before the King of Spain) with these reasons; that in all councills, the ambassadors of England have had place of those of castile, and were never put in competition by them, but only by those of hungary; which title the King of Spain hath not, but as Archduke of Austria. That in the treaties between Henry the 7th and philippe Archduke of austria, King of castile; and between Henry the 8th and charles the 5th emperor; the King of England had the precedence: and in the treaty of bourbourg 1588, the Earl of derby, & c. Had the preference of the Count d'aremberg, & c. Commissioners for the King of Spain. The president Richardot denied this, and challenged the precedence for the King of Spain, as being the greater King. He said, the precedence we spake of, in the time of Henry the 7th and 8th was yielded, because the kings of castile, being also archdukes of austria, were content to give place to the kings of England, as being in their own country Flanders, to their landlord the King of France, and to the lieutenaut of the empire: but that now the case was altered, for that they treated with the King of Spain his ambassadors. We replied, that her Majesty might as well challenge precedence of the King of Spain, as her ancestors did of the emperor charles the 5th, who was also King of Spain. At length we proposed, that (setting aside the question of precedence) we should treat of the matter for which we met. But Richardot said, he had no commission to treat of any thing, till the precedence were yielded to the King of Spain. This matter was debated between us and them, and to and fro advertised to the courts of England, Spain, and brussels, from the 17th of may till the 26th of July; (we, by her majesties order, offering to yield them the precedence, so as they would admit this clause sans prejudice du droict d'un cofté ou d'autre. And they refusing it, unless we would acknowledge it to be due unto them, jure or given simpliciter, without that clause. At length, the 26th of July, Richardot proposed, that since we could not agree about precedence, we should gee to the end of the treaty, and see if we could agree upon that; for if we did agree upon the substance, it might be, that her Majesty or the King of Spain would yield the precedence, rather then lose the peace. We were content to hear what they would say, with protestation, that we did it only to satisfy them, and to win time, till we heard out of England; and not with inent to proceed to any conclusion, except the priority were yielded. Then Richardot demanded, if we had commission to treat with the archduke? We answered, we had. He then asked, if we had commission to treat with the King of Spain? We answered, we had. Then he demanded to see our commission. We showed him our commission under the great seal of England: wherein, because in the archdukes title, (most illustrious) was used in stead of (most serene ;) and in that the clause of subdelegation was omitted, he took exceptions; yet agreed, they were not such, as should break the treaty. Then we demanded to see their commissions: and they showed us two; one from the Archduke, another from the King of Spain: both which we found defectivo. First, the Archduke's commission was signed by the infanta as well as by him-an. 1600. Self; whereas ours was to treat with the Archduke alone. 2. The King of Spain's commission gave power to the Archduke to subdelegate commissioners; and the Archduke had subdelegated those that were his own commissioners; which we thought was not good. 3. In the King of Spain's commission, he had omitted his title of King of portugal; and yet had inserted his title of King of jerusalem, (which is her Majesty's title as well as bis ,) and Lord of Ireland, (which is her Majesty's title only .) 4. He had omitted her Majesty's title of defender of the faith. The three first exceptions they answered slightly; but to the fourth, (which we chiefly insisted upon) they answered, that if the Pope gave her that title, the King of Spain would give it her; otherwise he would not. We replied, that the King of Spain's ancestors, and the Pope himself, gave it to her Majesty's father and brother, and she had born it all her reign, and was so styled in the treaty of bourbourg 1588. But Richardot said, it could not be allowéd. And so, after three months time spent in these altercations, the commissioners parted on all hands, and the treaty was dissolved.
26 May 1600
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_067
Right honorable, Boulogne 26th may 1600. O.S. Yesterday in the afternoon arrived here the gentleman whom we had sent into England; by whom we received her Majesty's directions touching the precedence: which were, that we should stand upon her right, and by no means yield it. Whereupon we sent presently to the commissioners of the other side, to desire a meeting this morning. At our meeting, we declared unto them her Majesty's resolution; and showed them, that she had great reason not to depart from that right which her ancestors had so long enjoyed, and which she her self had possessed without controllment during her whole reign. We produced diverse precedents out of the registers and treaties of former times; and namely that of 1588. They answered, that those precedents were grounded upon the respect that was then born to the King of England, as having command over the narrow seas, and being able to disturb their passage; but now the case was otherwise. And for the treaty of 88, they said it was but a colloquy, and no treaty; and besides, the precedence was not yielded then, but taken. In conclusion, they said they were sorry that they could not proceed; but their instructions were precise. We told them, we were as sorry as they; and so we parted. Since our return to our lodging, we have consulted what is fittest to be done. And considering that to break off the treaty abruptly upon this point, might be subject to heard construction, and perhaps breed some inconvenience: we have thought good to send another dispatch to her Majesty, to acquaint her with their obstinacy, and to know her further pleasure, whether we shall persist in the refusal, and so dissolve the assembly; or whether she will be content to yield to an equality, or some other temperament. In the mean time we will entertain the time with them as well as we can; and seek to discover if there be any hope that they will relent. But I fear the worst, for Richardot is very bigh. I beseech your honor to hasten the return of this Messenger; for we lie here at great charge, and to no purpose. Your honor's most, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
22 June 1600
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_068
An 1600 Right honorable, Boulogne 22th June 1600. O.S. SInce my last, we have received her Majesty's letters of the 6th of June; whereby she is pleased to qualify the rigor of her former instruction, and to be content to admit of an equality; so as the precedence be not simply yielded to the King of Spain. Upon receipt whereof, we demanded audience of the adverse commissioners; and proposed unto them, that to avoid the rupture of the treaty, her Majesty was content (out of her desire of peace) to wave her right for this time, and to agree, that there should be no precedence claimed on either side; but that we should treat in an equality. They took time to consider of it; and the next day returned answer: that they had acquainted the Archduke with our proposition, who had sent them order, not to admit of any equality, but to insist upon the absolute precedence for the King of Spain. This unreasonable answer did much trouble us: and we replied, that we did not think the King of Spain himself would have stood so punctually upon points of honor, to the hinderance of so good a work: and that we had gone as far as our instructions would bear us, and further than stood with her Majesty's honor, to offer an equality, when the precedence was due unto her. They persisted in their resolution: saying, that the Catholic King was the greatest monarch of Christendom, and might not yield in point of honor to any. So we are again at a stand; and I see no issue of it, but a breach. We have advertisement, that the King of Spain makes great preparations for the war; and that there are forces levying in Italy and Germany to come into the low countries. Which shows be hath no great meaning to make peace. I pray your honor let us hear from you. I grow weary of this fruitless employment. Your honor's most, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
25 June 1600
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_098
Right honorable. Since my last letter unto your honor. by Mr. Winwood, I have received advertisement, that notwithstanding all the fair shows wherewith the duke of Savoy hath hitherto entertained this king, he is now resolved not to yield the Marquisate nor any exchange in lieu of it. And that Mr de Berin Brullart the kings Ambassador in Savoy hath written so much unto him. whereupon he determined to set forward on his Journey thitherwards in post, upon the 17th of this month from Fontainebleau and arrived at Molins in two days, and from thence he purposes to depart for Lyon as upon tomorrow. The king wrote him self unto Mr. D’espernon, that he was assured the duke of Savoy seroit la beste and therefore willed him to hasten into Gascoigne to levy some troops of his followers and to be ready to come to him to Lyon upon his first advertisement. The duke hath already reinforced his towns upon the frontiers with men and victuals and hath levied 6000 Swiss. it is holden that by this time the Count fuentes is arrived at Milan. when the king departed from Fontainebleau he left Madamoiselle d’Entragues (whom he hath now graced with the title of Marguise de Vernueil) somewhat evil at ease and parted from her as I am informed with tears. But being called away by letters and advertisements from his Council, he went from her though with great grief (having never discovered so much affection unto her as within this month) and took order that she should be brought a bed with ceremony at Fontainebleau and Commanded certain ladies to assist at her travel. But upon the thursday after his departure she was delivered of a son dead before it was born. This accident may breed great alteration about his marriage. of late he hath seemed so to dote upon her as most men began to doubt of his proceeding with the princess of florence. and his own speeches have been very doubtful of it Notwithstanding I here the duchess of Nemours is appointed to go thither and hath an Assignation for that purpose of 25000 crowns. But it is certain that the princess comes not at the soonest before the end of September, though she her self have offered to come to the king to Lyon, and not to expect her Aunts company, or any other solemnity prepared for her reception. The duke De Mercure is on his way for Hungary having carried with him 4000 lorrainers besides some Allemans which he levied in the provinces adiacent. he is to be lieutenant general of the Emperours Army, as his friends give out. And Captain Elliot conceaving his offer to be reiected in England, hath made means to accommodate him self with him in a reasonable good place as I am informed. we are here full of a report that the Archeduke & Count Maurice have met and that the Archeduke hath been defeated with the loss of 4000 or 5000 men. The spaniards give out the clean contrary that their side hath prevailed and that they have recovered the fort by Ostend which the Count had taken. But therein they do but as they are wo nt. for we are assured of the Contrary from Calais. The prince of Lorraine which married the kings sister went to Rome since Easter last, upon pretence to procure his absolution from the excommunication which he had incurred for marrying an heretic without dispensation. And he was the rather hastened so to do, because this last Easter the Churchmen refused to confess him or to suffer him to Communicate. But the king is advertised that at his being at Rome, he hath laboured in stead of a dispensation, to have his marriage dissolved; whereat there is great offence conceived here, and aggravated by an other Act of the Cardinal of Lorraines in making a younger brother of the Queen 's of Spaines his coadiutor in the Bishopric of Strasbourg. The duke of Bouillon hath been very sick since his going into Turene and is not able yet to travel. The C. Soissons continues in great discontentment with the king notwithstanding his discovery of the late treason, which hath rather increased then diminished gealousies as I here. D’espernon seems to be in great grace with the king but yet is not trusted. If this news of flanders be true we shall have the more reason I hope of these haughty Spaniards. we expect your honor 's. full direction by Mr. Edmondes. And so for this time with remembrance of my duty I humbly take my leave. from Boulogne the xxvth of June 1600. Yours honor 's. very humbly at Commandment I send your honor. herewith a letter I received from the master of Grey who is lately returned to Paris. Henry Neville Since the finishing of my letter I have received an advertisemt from Charles Paget which he prayes me not to continue that notwithstanding Treaty of Peace the King of Spain hath at this present a very great design upon England and that he knows it from the report of one that hath very good means to understand it. your honor. wrote me once that the Queen was very diffident of any thing that came from Charles Paget. yet his advertisement of ye supply intended to be sent lately from m173xrfdha102 Spain into Ireland proved reasonable true. But from whence it is he should receive this, I can not guess. if it be from the Spanish Ambassador it may be but a pollicy to bring us on the faster. But your honor. shall best judge of it by comparing it with your other Intelligences from those parts. once I do assure my self he intends no abuse in it. Note: great grief: The Rape of Lucrece, King John, The Winter 's Tale great offence: All 's well that ends well, Henry VIII great grace: Henry VIII great design: Richard III
27 June 1600
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_099
Court Right honorable Some of my good friends understanding of the dangerous & almost desperate sickness of Sir. Anthony Paulet, whereby the government of Jersey is likely to fall shortly into her majesty. disposition, have wished me to become a suitor unto her majesty. for it. wherein although the consideration of my mean estate and overgreat charge do continually summon me to embrace any occasion whereby I may hope to sustain it, yet having resolved to build my fortune only upon your honors favors I would determine nothing, till I had first acquainted your honor. with it and understood your pleasure. To that end therefore I am bold to trouble your honor. with these few lines, most humbly praying you to make known unto mine uncle killigrew, your approbation or dislike of my attempting of it, And in case your honor. approve it, I most humbly beseech your favor and recommendation to her majesty. without which I have neither hope, will, nor means, to begin or effect it Of mocions to induce your honor. to do me this favor, I have only these. first, your own goodness and honorable nature which delights in doing good, as the true mark and end of greatness: next, the testimony of mine own heart, & protestation, that I am and ever will be your honor 's. faithful and humbly affectionated creature, who by this means shall be enabled to do you better service. lastly the prayers and blessings of a great number of little ones, who have the honor to be allied to your Issue. I will not trouble your honor further at this time about this matter, but refer the rest unto mine uncles friendly solicitation. And so I most humbly take my leave from Boulogne the 27th of June 1600 Your honor 's. most humble at commandment. Henry Neville
17 July 1600
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_100
Court. Right honorable. This morning I received letters from Paris of the 10th of this month which advertise me that the day before, there arrived a lieutenant of one of the companies of the kings gardes who brought word to Mr. d’Espernon from the Court, that the king assuring him self that the duke of Savoy intended nothing but dalliance, and to amuse him by those deluding ambassages which he sent him and being certainly advertised that the king of Spaine is de la party was resolved to lose no more time in Idle disputes but to enter presently into actual war, And had therefore dispatcht Commissaries into all adjacent parts of his kingdom to levy men with this order to increase all the companies of the regiment of his gardes which were before but of 60, to 300 a piece and his companies of his other four regiments which were but of 35 to 200 a piece That other Constable and the duke of Maine have already sent their companies of gendarmes unto the king meaning themselves to follow very shortly. That the Marshal de Biron in Burgundy and Mr. des diguerres in Daulfine gather all the forces they can That Mr. d’Espernon doth the like in xaintonge and the provinces of this government. That Mr. de Rosin was expected at Paris within two days, to borrow money there if he could, having been disappointed of his expectation at Lyon, and found either the banke less provided there, or the kings assurance less credited, then he looked for. It is given out that the king will make two armies, and with the one assail Bourg en bresse and with the other Chambery. But notwithstanding all these braggs and shows of preparation to terrify, I verely believe the king is unready to begin a war, and that he wants a good fonds, unless he should convert to that use, the money which he hath prepared to content the Swiss, which I think he dare not do, lest they should forsake him in his greatest need. Therefore I am still in expectation of some new overtures to be made by the duke, and Countenanced by the Pope, who will be exceeding sorry that they should break out into actual war, knowing it will interrupt all his practices in france, and enforce the king to use and regard both his allies and subjects of our religion, from whom he was in good way and hope to alienate him entirely. On the other side, the french do in a manner all desire it, both the nobility and souldiers in general, and those of the religion in particular, in hope to be better regarded of the king when he shall have need of them, and those which are ill affected to him, trusting to make their profit of his trouble. My hope is in the end that god will serve him self of this occasion as he can do of any, to work the good and assurance of his true professors. I do not remember whether I have heretofore advertised some speeches which the president Richardot uttered in a bravery upon our question of the precedence, and as an argument of the king of Spaines greatness, namely that his kingdon of Castille alone, with the dependances, had yielded him a contribution of 18. millions payable in six years. if this be true, it is the more likely he may embark him self into a war with france. But otherwise he will hardly do it, although they speak all of new mines lately discovered in some part of the Indies which he possesses. The success of this treaty may also wey much in the matter. But especially the coming in of the united provinces, which is their chiefest end and hope in this treaty with vs, notwithstanding all the protestations that Richardot hath made, whereby he would have vs conceive otherwise, the likelihood or improbability whereof, will be a thing very necessary for vs to know, and whereby we shall be able to make great judgment of their proceeding, and receive also good light how to direct our own. I beseech you honor. therefore to vouchsafe to communicate with vs what you understand of it. And so I humbly take my leave. from Boulogne the 17th of July 1600. Your honor 's. very humbly to be commanded. Henry Neville.
18 July 1600
Henry Neville to Ralph Winwood
ID: letter_069
, 18 July 1600. O.S.
HAving so good a commodity I would not omit it, though perhaps too late to find you at Paris. Out of England I have heard nothing since your departure, neither publicly to us all, nor privately to my self. I have written that I have dispatched you, and what allowance I have made you, alledging his promise for it. Of my suit I hear nothing at all; I received this morning a letter from my father, but with no mention of it. The audiencer is returned this day, but as yet they have not sent to us. Since I sent the Ambassador venison, he hath sent my wise and my sister some Spanish gloves and perfumes. Richardot had lately conference with Mr. Secretary privately, and afterwards with him and Mr. Edmonds, to this effect; that whereas the Queen had often promised to do her best to bring them of Holland and zealand into the treaty, for which there was now a very good opportunity offered, seeing they began of themselves to hearken to it, and had for that purpose given a passport to the deputies of the states of Flanders to come to confer with them at bergen op zoome; it would please her to add her authority unto this inclination of theirs, and either persuade them to send their deputies hither to join with us, or to remove this treaty into some place of Holland; in which latter case he said, they would give us the precedence, which had been so much in question. This motion he made as privately from himself, referring it unto them either to suppress it, or to communicate it further as they thought sit. By this you may gather some reason of this long lingring without apparent cause; and withal, that the states begin bansler à la manche. We understand by reports, but not otherwise, that my Lord cobham and Sir walter rawleigh are gone over, upon pretext to see the camp and siege of the sort isabella near Ostend, where Count maurice is yet unprofitably, as he was before at newport; but I cannot think but they have some other end, and that in England there is some allarm taken of these matters, although we be not worthy to know it. The Archduke is within half a league of the states army, and puts in as many men as he will into the sort; so as yet it is held that Count maurice must be fain to dislodge, and embark again for Holland, having made small use of his victory and great expense he hath been at, only la berlotte is slain as he came to view the enemies trenches. And so till further occasion I commit you to God.
Your very loving friend, HENRY NEVILLE.
P.S. Even now we have received answer from the audiencer, whereby I conceive the treaty is broken, viz. That the King of Spain will not assent to any meeting, without the preseance be yielded unto him. I thought good you should know it, but use it as you see cause; you may communicate it if you will to the Duke de Bouillon if he be there, and see if he will not take occasion before it be thoroughly known, to set a foot again the motion I made for renewing the treaties between the Queen and the French King. I send to morrow into England, to sollicite my leave to step over thither when we have ended here; this last accident I fear will much disappoint my hopes that way.
21 July 1600
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_101
Right honorable. The report which we send by this bearer of the king of Spaines resolution brought by the Audiencer makes me conceive that our abode here will not be long. And therefore I am bold to renew my suit unto your honor., and by your means to her majesty., that I may be permitted to come over for a time to kiss her royal hands being so near, and withal to do some business of mine own to which my presence is necessary. And for that purpose I will be bold likewise to put your honor. in mind of the promise you delivered me from her majesty., that my coming hither to Boulogne should discharge me of that Journey after the king to Lyons and Marseilles: of whose sacred word it were great undutifulness in me to make any doubt. And her good pleasure being to perform that promise unto me, I can not better employ the time of his absence in those parts, then near her royal person, to receive her full directions in all matters, and to make my self able to perform the service afterwards. herein I humbly desire your honor 's approbation and furtherance as in a matter that imports me and my state very nearly, and without which I must plead not only disability, but impossibility to go forward in the Charge which is here laid upon me. your accustomed favor whereof I have had so good experience, wills me to be confident and not to importune you more about this matter. Therefore with remembrance of my humbliest duty I will here conclude and rest Your honor 's. most humble at commaundmt Henry Neville from Boulogne the xxj of July 1600.
23 July 1600
Henry Neville to Ralph Winwood
ID: letter_070
, 23 July 1600. O.S.
OUR business is here at an end, upon the reason I wrote to you in my last of the 18th of this month. I am not certain what shall become of me, for in the letters from her Majesty whereby we are authorized to return, the permission seems to be restrained to those that were sent over purposely for this business, which seems to be exclusive to me; but I have sent over michael purposely to bring me some certain resolution, and I make full account to go over. I have received answer from Mr. Secretary, of that I wrote to him concerning you; wherein he promises allowance of 20 s. A day, but for the other 10 s. He saith it is not worth the moving the Queen; so it seems he means to lay it upon me, which I am very well content with, and will see it shall be duly answered you. Directions he hath sent me none for you, although I earnestly prest it, not so much as touching any compliment to be done by you to the Princess upon her arrival, although I mentioned it particularly: therefore I must refer you to those generalities that we conferred of before your departure, till my coming into England; and then I will not fast to urge and send you a more perfect direction. For the present I would only add this, that you would inform your self by all means of the Spanish designs, which no doubt upon the rupture, will be carried on mainly against our state, especially in Ireland: and for that purpose I would be glad that you should settle me some good intelligence, not only where we spake of at your departure, but any where else, where you think it may be to good purpose; the charge of it I refer unto you, I will perform what you promise, for I know it will be acceptable. We have a bruit by some English set at liberty and come out of Spain, that there are 80 ships preparing at the Groyne, and 30 galleys to come from Lisbon to join with them; I pray you be diligent to sift the truth of it; if you chance to speak with the King himself, he will deal plainliest with you. In Ireland our affairs continue upon the mending hand; the Queen is determined to proscribe Tyrone and to confer his earldom upon Sir Arthur O'Neill, who is come in, and hath declared himself openly against him: diverse others are ready to do the like. Her Majesty is likewise resolved to deliver the young Earl of Desmond out of the Tower, and to restore him to his father's title and estate, whereby it is conceived that Munster will be speedily reduced. Be careful I pray you to advertise the proceedings between the King and the Duke of Savoy, for it imports, and the Queen expecteth it chiefly from you. My Lord Cobham and Sir Walter Raleigh are returned, but I hear their journey was not altogether idle, nor upon curiosity only, but that they carried some message which did no harm: the particulars you shall know when I am better informed of them. I have received and sent the passport which you required for john norton. I pray you write often, though you hazard some letters, for now they will be exceeding desirous in England to hear of your proceeding in those parts. I have used the direction you advised me of in your letter by Mr. Packer for conveyance of mine, and mean to continue it till you advice me otherwise. Touching the absurd and slanderous surmise that the Spanish Ambassador hath against me, I will not take any knowledge of it till I may avow some author. I distrust colvel every day more and more, I will quit my self of him. And so till some other opportunity I commend me unto you, & c.
Your loving friend, HENRY NEVILLE.
28 July 1600
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_071
Right honorable, Boulogne 28th July 1600. O.S. IT may please your honor; we have received your letters of the 20th of July: wherby her Majesty doth command us to make a Final conclusion with these commissioners; and if they will not accept of the equality offered, to return home. According whereunto, we had a meeting with them this morning: wherein we declared, that her Majesty had done all that could be required of a Prince that desired peace upon honorable terms: that she had offered to remit her just right of precedence, and to treat upon equal terms: that if they refused this, it was manifest to all the world, the fault lay in them, and not in her. Richardot answered, that they were tied by their instructions, and could not go from them. So we resolved to break off. But before our parting, we demanded to see their commissions, (as I wrote in my former letters we intended to do .) They showed us them: and we took those exceptions mentioned in the collection I sent your honor: namely, to the omission of the title, defender of the faith; and the title of Lord of Ireland assumed by the King of Spain; and the want of the clause of subdelegation; and the joining of the Infanta with the Archduke. They defended their commissions as well as they could; but weakly. And so, after some sharp speeches passed between Richardot and us, we took our leaves: protesting, that the rupture of this treaty proceeded meerely from their pride and obstinacy. We intend to set forward towards England to morrow. I hope her Majesty I humbly take my leave. Your honor's most, & c. HENRY NEVILLE. An. 1600.
29 July 1600
Henry Neville to Ralph Winwood
ID: letter_072
,, 29 July 1600. O.S.
OUR business here is an end, as I have twice already written unto you. The Spanish commissioners went away yesterday, and we account to ship upon Tuesday or Friday. The truth is for my part I account this action for dissolved, altho'there be a verbal agreement among us, that it shall continue in dependence 60 days, in which time the Queen is to resolve whether (if the states will be induced to enter into the treaty) she will treat in some town of Holland; or in case they refuse, in some of the Archduke's towns, as borborough, winoxbergen, or any other which her Majesty will choose: in both which cases, her Majesty sending into their country, is of courtesy to have the preseance, and so that point not to come in question at all. If she like of neither of these, she is to propose any other way that she shall think sit for the continuance of the treaty. Now I suppose the Queen will accept of neither of these two, being in effect to yield the same point of honor, which hath been all this while debated; and besides, having been the chief subject of Mr. Edmond's first negotiation at Brussels, and then directly rejected by her: and for my own part, I see no other way how we can meet, but with the same difficulty, which hath now separated us, unless they will send into England, which they absolutely refuse, therefore I conclude as before. Notwithstanding, we are willing for some causes to have it conceived otherwise, that partly by reason of some difficulty grown about the precedency, but chiefly to give both time and convenience to the hollanders to resolve whether they would enter into the treaty, having of late discovered some inclination unto it, it was proposed by the other side, and could not well be refused by ours, to adjourn the treaty for 60 days, and in the mean time a place for the next meeting to be agreed upon, which should be convenient for all sides. But withal, if you find that the opinion of our breach may the sooner imbark the King into the war with Savoy, you may confidently tell him as of your self, that the proceeding hitherto hath so distasted her Majesty, as you are of opinion she will not be drawn into any new conference: but if he be already entered into war, you shall do well to turn your language clean the other way, and accermare, that the small assurance and contentment she finds here, will enforce her in all reason to provide for her repose and safety some other way; at least to disburthen her self of certain enemies, seeing she finds so uncertain friends. And thereupon you may take occasion, to touch the discontentment the Queen hath conceived of the late arrest of the privy council, which is like to cut off the chief trade of our nation in this realm; and you may very seriously urge either the revocation of it, or at least the suspending of the execution for three or four months, till there may be some conference had of it, and his council may be thoroughly informed of the wrong therein done to the amity and treaties between the two crowns. And if it be refused, you may directly let fall some speeches, that the Queen will be very sensible of it, and will be enforced, both in honor and policy, to make the like restraints upon the subjects and commodities of France, as this arrest hath made upon those of England. And that you may be the better avowed in the solicitation hereof, I send you a copy of the council's letter lately written unto me about it, and likewise a memorial sent me by the merchants how they desire to have it qualified; which being compared with the arrest, and the difference noted, will best declare what they do particularly complain of. And in the mean time whilst you solicit some order there for the suspending of it, I have adventured to write to the first president of Rouen, to make some stay of it in that ressort, till the King's pleasure may be further known; therefore I pray you be instant in it, and at least let us know what the King answers. The Ambassador hath been dealt with in England about it, and hath made fair promises, as his manner is. The merchant's letter which I now send you, though it be General, yet it is chiefly meant for the business of the sea; touching which I thought good to write my letters to the King, and the Duke de joyeuse, who is Admiral of the levant seas, and to send them open to you, that you might carry them if you think sit. Or otherwise if you find any disposition in the King to give satisfaction, it may be it will be better to forbear them, because they are somewhat quick and plain. You shall be best able to judge upon the place; only I would have you know, that here is a great resolution taken to right our selves if the King do it not; and that very speedily.
I send you herewith the copies of certain intercepted letters, which discover plainly the designs of the spaniards, and the causes of the delays that have been used with us. In that of the 23th of may, you shall see he writes of a peace concluded between them and Savoy, that a copy of the articles had been sent him by the Savoy Ambassador. You may assure the King out of any knowledge, that the Duke of Savoy hath been nothing squeamish to accept of the King of Spain's protection. And therefore if the King finding himself parried, should be drawn to a peace with him, he is to look for no other but to nourish a serpent in his bosom, that will be ready to sting him on all occasions. You may add if you please (though not out of these letters) that he is a Prince of a high spirit, and hath great designs in his head. In the letter of the 13th of June, marked b. You shall find mention of the adelantado's coming into the low-countries; and that the Duke of Savoy is to command the army that shall enter into France. I pray you handle these matters so, as the King may be quickned, but not disheartened. I have not yet received my leave, but I look for it by the next, and then I will presently over; if I stay any time at London you shall hear from me; if I go into the country, I will leave order with Mr. Otwell smith, or Mr. Button, to convey your letters to me. In the mean time I pray you direct yours to Mr. Secretary, who will be glad to understand of the King's proceedings. I send you herewith a cypher, which you may use with him or me as you please. You shall do well to write sometimes to my Lord Treasurer, who is very well affected to the French amity. My Lord of Southampton and my Lord grey are both gone into the low-countries, & c. Your very loving friend, HENRY NEVILLE.
01 August 1600
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_104
Right honorable. I received this morning about nine of clock this inclosed from Mr. Winwood, which I thought good to send your honor. with speed, that you may see what the kings proceeding is with the Duke of Savoy. yesterday the french ambassador cam to visit me, & told me that he had letters lately from the Court, which imported nothing but war. of the time & place of the marriage he could deliver no certainty. of the complaints for want of Justice, we had some conference which I will acquaint your honor. with when I next wait upon you. And so in the mean time I humbly take my leave & rest Your honor 's. most dutiful at commandment. Henry Neville. from London the?? of August 1600
02 August 1600
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_073
Right honorable, Boulogne 2d August 1600. O. S. BEing stayed here by contrary winds, I thought good to advertise your honor, that the commissioners of the Archduke are departed this day towards brussels. At their going, they sent to us to wish us a good voyage; but withal, Richardot said to a gentleman of ours that was sent unto him, that he was sorry matters were carried with so much heat; and that he hoped, when these punctillios were over, we might meet again with better success. By this I gather, that they are not unwilling to renew the treaty, if they might have their wills. But for my part, I think it not for her Majesty's honor to seek it any more. I understand by a ship come from Spain, that the King is gone to lisbon; and that there is great sickness in the fleet. I hope to pass over this night, if the wind serve. Your honor's most, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
06 August 1600
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_102
Right honorable. we arryved our selves at Dover upon satterday night last, as I suppose Mr. Secretary harbert hath given you to understand. The next day our horses and servants were landed & upon monday we set forward on our Journey & arrived here Mr. Edmonds & my self this evening. Mr. Secretary went to his house to mortlake, & Mr. Beale likewise as I take it. we have all appointed, unless your honor. command the Contrary, to meet at Mr. Secretaries upon Friday morning, & so come together to the Court. Notwithstanding we would be glad to wait upon your honor. somewhere privately if you so think good, before we come to her Majesty. presence. it may please your honor. therefore to signify your pleasure therein unto me by this messenger, which I send purposely for that end. And so till I may wait upon you my self to present my duty & humble thanks for the favor you have done me in procuring my return, I most humbly take my leave & rest Your honor 's. most humble at commandment. from London the 6 of August 1600 Henry Neville.
08 August 1600
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_074
Right honorable, London 8th August 1600. O.S. BEing arrived here yesterday, I thought it my duty to acquaint your honor with it; and to beseech you to appoint a time when I may attend her Majesty, to give account of my service. I have left Mr. Winwood in France, according to her Majesty's plea sure; who will advertise your honor of all occurrences there. I hear that the Earl of Gowrie and his brother have been slain in Scotland, upon an attempt against the King's person. It is a strange accident, and likely to produce great alterations in that kingdom. I attend your honor's commandment. Your honor's most, & c. HENRY NEVILLE.
11 August 1600
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_103
Right honorable. I have received letters from Paris, which advertise me, that the communication of accord between the king and the Duke of Savoy is broken of, and that the war is like to proceed. And it was supposed that at the writing of the letter the Mareschal de Biron and Mr. des Diguierres were entered the Dukes country with their force. I was yesterday to visit the french ambassador, who it seemed had received the same advertisement, And withal that the Count de fuentes had sent for forces out of the kingdom of Naples, with a purpose as it is conceived to assist the Duke. I thought it my duty to advertise your honor. what I understood, although I am still very prone to believe that this matter will be compounded in the end. I am going for 4 or 5 days to my house in the country, to take some order for the settling of my wife & family. At my return I will wait upon your honor. In the mean time I have sent the discourse of the conference at Fontainebleau. And so I humbly take my leave & rest Your honor 's. most humble at commandment. Henry Neville. 11th: Aug: 1600
28 August 1600
Henry Neville to Ralph Winwood
ID: letter_075
,, 28th Aug. 1600.
YOUR two letters of the last of July and third of August I have received, and communicated them unto Mr. Secretary, who remains very well edified of them, and gives you a very good testimony of his approbation, which I note unto you for your comfort and encouragement in your pains there. I understand by the latter of those letters, that you had received two of mine which I wrote from Boulogne: but the last which I sent from thence, containing a relation of the state we left the treaty in, and a direction to you how to proceed thereupon, I am not sure whether it be come to your hands; and therefore in all events, I have thought good to send you a duplicate of it, praying you to prosecute those things which you have in charge, with such vehemency and celerity, as conveniently you may.
I have dealt with the Ambassador since my return about the merchant's business; who hath promised to write unto the King that the arrest may be suspended till there may be a conference had and a regulation established for those causes, according to the treaty of Blois, which he possesses to hold in force. You shall do well to solicit the same effect.
Her Majesty is very careful to know how this war proceedeth between the King and the Duke of Savoy: so that you shall satisfy her very much by writing often of it. We are persuaded here, notwithstanding the progress you write of, and the advertisement the Ambassador hath since received that the King was entered chambery, and that monsieur lesdiguieres had surprized montmelian by intelligence, that it works all but for a peace, especially since you write so much of the King's aversness from the war, and of so small appearance of any open assistance from Spain. I pray you penetrate that point as much as you may, and advertise it by this bearer, whom I have procured to be sent over purposely, to bring us some speedy news from you.
I have acquainted Mr. Secretary with the speech that passed between the (zl ygiy dxichn 180 rich) Secretary of Florence and you, before my coming from Paris; wherein he seemed to give some assurance, that if the treaty did not proceed with (200) Spain, (rich) the great Duke would be contented to (b r m d h c x p g h w) contribute towards the maintenance of the (z k x I h e w) war. I find (100 states) the Queen very willing to embrace the offer, and that you should stringere la pratica with him, wherein I would wish you to proceed in this sort. First to acquaint him truely in what terms (a) the treaty stands; whereby he may perceive, that it both may, and undoubtedly will be (ew be aus) revived, if it be not diverted by some new occasion. But withal you may let him know, that (state) the Queen hath been so disgusted with the proceeding hitherto, as it will be no heard matter, in your opinion, to draw her from it, if she might see any other course to secure her self and her estate; for that is the scope she aimeth at, and (e w w p g w) peace she affecteth not for any other respect. And if to that purpose the Duke will make any overture, you may assure him it will be secreatly handeled, and very thankfully accepted. And you may propose unto him the loan of some good round sum of money, or an annual contribution for some years, to be the fittest means to make (100) the Queen break off the treaty; for that will give her means to maintain the war, which is the only thing she sticketh at. You may likewise inquire, whether, if the Queen should have a purpose to set upon (200) Spain by sea, the Duke would be content to join his galleys with her fleet, and upon what conditions? These things you may handle with him; and if you find him disposed to come to any particulars, you may assure him, I will be at Paris within this month, and will bring authority to conclude with him. But because I would be glad to know somewhat of his mind before I come, and likewise to carry the Queen some taste of his good-will, to prepare her the better against my going. I pray you send back this Messenger with all speed, and advertise me what you find.
Since my coming over, I have found my Lord of Essex his business in no better terms then I left it; only he hath his liberty, to go to his own house in the country, or any of his unckle's, or friend's houses, so they be not near the court: but he is not yet admitted to the Queen's presence, neither is there any hope of it for a time. The business of the Earl of gowry in Scotland, I am sure will be no news to you, otherwise I would have written the particulars. And so for this time I take my leave. Your very assured loving friend, HENRY NEVILLE.
28 August 1600
Henry Neville to Ralph Winwood
ID: letter_076
SIR, London 28th August 1600. O.S. I have received your letters of the 20th of this month, and am glad to hear since my return, I have been graciously received by her Majesty; who is pleased to approve of our proceedings at Boulogne: although she be not satisfied with the issue of it. But she layeth the fault wholly upon the pride of the Spaniard. For my self, I am commanded to return to my charge in France, as soon as I can dispatch some private business. I would willingly be excused, if it might be; for I am weary of the service, and my private estate requires my presence at home. But I must obey. I pray you continue your advertisements; and let me know what is done in the matter of the Marquisate of Saluces. The Duke of Savoy is said to be arrived at Paris: I pray you observe well his reception, and what passeth between the King and him. We are here full of the Scottish news; the particularities whereof you shall receive by this bearer. I pray you remember me to all my friends there. Your assured friend, HENRY NEVILLE.
09 September 1600
Henry Neville to Ralph Winwood
ID: letter_077
SIR, London 9th September 1600. O.S. I am appointed to set forward towards you within these ten days. I bring with me her Majesty's resolution touching the treaty, to be imparted to the King; which is, that she will not be drawn to any new overtures, unless the King of Spain will first crave it, and desist from his unjust pretensions. I understand the King is gone to Lyons. I shall have a weary journey to follow him thither. I pray you take order for a lodging for me at Paris against my coming; for I intend to stay there some few days to refresh my self, before I go to the court. There is no news here, but that the Earl of Essex is at liberty, to go to his own house in the country; but is not yet admitted to the court. I commend me heartily unto you. Your assured friend, HENRY NEVILLE.
02 November 1600
Henry Neville to Ralph Winwood
ID: letter_078
,, 2d Nov. 1600.
I received your letters by Simons more than a fortnight since, and I received also another from you since that of the 30th of September. I have been enforced to defer my answers thus long, because that in the chief and main points of them, namely the negotiations you have had with (advice and respect) the venetian and florentine ambassadors; (state) the Queen hath been very irresolute how to proceed. Partly from a diffidence, that (rich and powers) the great Duke's and the signory of Venice's good affection, will extend no further than to words and wish, and an unwillingness thereupon, to discover any indigence with no hope of fruit; and partly upon an innate and inveterate humor, to desire things till they be offered, and then to neglect them. I do not doubt but in the end, any good offers that shall come from that side will be willingly embraced; but till we see some likelihood, we are loath to discover our selves to need any body. And therefore I am willed for the present thus to direct you; to entertain the matter as you have begun in generalities, and to advertise any particular overtures that they shall make; and if you be pressed to open your self upon any particulars, to answer that I will be very shortly there, and that I shall come furnished with power and instructions to treat of it. Withal I am to let you know, that your proceeding, both in this and other things, is very pleasing and acceptable here; and so much delivered openly by Mr. Secretary in the presence of the Lord grey, Sir john stanhop, and my self whereupo my Lord grey toke occasion to do you right in a very kind manner.
I am now at length enforced to return into my charge after long contestation, even to the extremity almost of a commitment. All I have won, is a confirmation of the Queen's promise, that I shall but serve out my two years; which how it will be kept I know not, but I have now some more ground than I had to press it, and I leave my wise behind to solicit it: I think to set forward on my journey a fortnight hence. I put it off all I can, because I would avoid any further journey than to Paris, hoping that the King will now be thinking of his return thither to enthronize his new Queen; whereof I would have been very glad to have understood some certainty from you, and do yet desire to know as soon as may be, what is the King's purpose in it; that at my coming to Paris, I may be able to resolve what to do.
We have news here come from Paris, that Montmelian should be rendered, and the sort St. Catherine is likely to run the same fortune. Notwithstanding, we persuade our selves, both upon your letters and otherwise, that all will end in an accord by the Pope's mediation, which I pray you to penetrate by all means possible. Of the solemnity, and all circumstances of the Queen's reception and marriage, you shall do well to certify very particularly, for such things please here very much. Touching the treaty with Spain, you know in what terms it was left, and how far it hath been since proceeded in, you shall perceive by these enclosed copies. We are in very little conceit of it at this time, for (state) the Queen seems resolved not to abandon (120 hope) the states of Holland, without which the matter will prove full of inextricable difficulties. Notwithstanding, it is good for our affairs that it should be conceived otherwise abroad, and you shall do well to entertain all men in an opinion of some speedy (xuydrfp) meeting about it; and so it is likely enough there may be, though as idle as the former, to carry on our other purposes.
Out of Scotland we hear, there is a purpose in this next parliament to reunite to the Church all abbey lands, which accords well with that advertisement which you sent from (poverty) colvel. Bruce, and some other ministers are put from their charges, and banished Edinburgh town and the court, with an express prohibition not to come into England. Their crime is, that they refused to declare the conspiracy and attempt of Gowrie and his brother against the King, in such sort as they were required. The Earl of argyle and the Lord Wemyss passed this way lately into Scotland; they spake both with the Queen publicly in the presence chamber, and were graciously used, but had no private access to her. I do not find that the advertisement he received from Sir thomas erskine prevailed with him, for I know that he visited (26) Mr. Secretary Cecyll particularly: he was desirous also to have visited (28) the Earl of Essex, but it was not thought sit, otherwise, then in the tennis court, where the one came in whilst the other was playing.
The Earl of Essex continueth yet without access to the court. At Michaelmas last his lease of the sweet wines expired; and after a months suspense, whether it should be granted him or nay, it is at length put into Sir Henry billingsley's hands, and others, to husband it for the Queen, which is no argument of any such relenting disposition towards him as was supposed. Yet notwithstanding there is an expectation of his running at the coronation-day, and that it shall be the first step of his Grace and access to the court: but I am not very prone to believe it. New officers or counselors there are yet none made since you went; there hath been some contestation and yet is, for the chancellorship of the duchy, between Sir john stanhop, and Sir Edward Stafford, and the Queen divided between them upon promises claimed by both. My Lord of rutland, my Lord of Southampton, and my Lord grey, are returned out of the low-countries; and an opinion there is, that the two latter are made friends by the Queen's commandment.
Out of Ireland we have good news, that my Lord Deputy hath forced the passage of the moiry upon Tyrone himself in person, who had entrenched himself in the place, and hath killed five or six hundred of his men, and so made himself way to armagh, where he intends to leave a garrison, and so to return to Dublin. The province of Munster is almost reduced from actual rebellion, and the pretended Desmond fled into Connaught, who hath very few followers: and the restored Desmond is by this time arrived there, whose presence it is hoped will serve very much to settle matters there. The sales are shut up, and a parliament appointed in February. The lands of the bishopric of ely which were exchanged, are appointed to be sold, to pay the city, and the duchess's of lennox's lands to stop another gap. There is a company erecting of such as shall trade to the east-indies, and a fleet already designed for it, whereof the charge will arise to 50000 l. Your advertisements from (rich) the Duke of Florence will be very kindly taken. The Queen hath written an answer to his letter, and conveyed it, I take it by some merchants means.
I have received your bill for the 100 crowns you had of Mr. Willaston's correspondent at Lyons, and paid the money. And so hoping to see you shortly at Paris, or further off if there be no remedy, I commend me very heartily unto you, and commit you to God. Your very assured friend, HENRY NEVILLE.
P.S. We have news here lately arrived, that the King will not return to Paris all this winter: if that be so, you know I must not stay at Paris. And therefore in that case, you shall do well to speak, that I have a convenient lodging appointed in the place where the King means to reside. I have received all the letters you mention, saving that of the 15th of August, which perished with richard the post, between deep and Dover. I had purposed to have sent by an express Messenger, but that is staid till we here once again from you; therefore I thought good to send this by the way of Rouen.
15 November 1600
Henry Neville to Ralph Winwood
ID: letter_079
,, 15th Nov. 1600.
I wrote unto you the second of this month by the way of Rouen, and some few days after I sent you by parnel (one of the King's courriers) a letter of advice, and a bill of exchange from Mr. Bash to constantin for 50 l. Sterl. And have here enclosed sent you the second bill for the same. Mr. Bash hath likewise written unto him to deliver you what you shall require besides. About four days since I received your letters of the 5th and 7th of October: whereupon, misdoubting I should receive no more in any short time from you, I obtained warrant of Mr. Secretary to dispatch this express Messenger, that he might be returned against my arrival at Paris, and bring me some certain advertisement from you, what the King means to do, that I may thereupon determine either to stay for him at Paris, or go on further. By my last I signified, that for some respects, I was willed to direct you to entertain in generalities, the overtures you had begun with (advice and respect) the venetian and florentine ambassadors, referring the particulars till my coming; for it is purposed, that I shall bring full power and instruction, to agree of all those particularities that you wrote of. In the mean time, if they have proposed any thing that shall be needful to be thought of, I pray you advertise it by this bearer, that I may procure a speedy resolution in it, before I confer with them.
Touching the arrest of the privy council there, whereof both you and I have complained; although monsieur de Villeroy hath told you, that he had sent the King's answer to his Ambassador here; yet we can receive none from him but this, that he will undertake that the merchants goods shall not be confiscated, but of any direct answer touching the matter, he will take no knowledge. Which kind of juggling between them, methinks is very strange, and deserves to be more seriously apprehended than I see it is; but at my coming I will put it to an issue one way or other.
We have diverse bruits here of the Count Fuentes joining his forces with the Duke of Savoy, and of an encounter between them and the King's forces, wherein the French should have had the worst; also of the yielding of Montmelian to the King before the term expired, upon private conditions made by the governor; and of a discontent grown between the King and the Duke of Guise about the discovery of an enterprise upon Nice, all which I give no credit to, because you write nothing of them.
Of the Marshal Biron's proceeding in Bresse, we have heard nothing a long time, neither know we whether the citadel of Bourg be rendered or not, or what resistance is made in those parts. I pray you advertise, what conceit you learn that the princes of Italy have of this war; and penetrate as much as you may, what the King's intentions are if the war should continue. It is likely, that at the cardinal aldobrandino's coming, there will be some secret practice against them of the religion. I do not doubt but they be jealous enough of it, and therefore open-eyed to observe what is done: and I know not to whom they should more gladly communicate it, than to her Majesty's ministers. Discover I pray you, when you may of it, and let me understand it. I would be glad to have the contract of the King's marriage, I pray you procure it if you can. Hearken after aldobrandino's negotiation by all means. We are full of a report, and almost of an opinion, that he which hath been so long a prisoner at Venice, is now discovered to be the true Sebastian, by many secret tokens upon his body; confirmed out of Portugal by those which knew him both child and man. I pray you inform your self well of it, and clear us of that point if you may. If (resolution) the Duke de Bouillon be come to the court, I could wish you did sound him and (religion) Monsieur de Rosny, to that effect that I have written heretofore; for we are now in great hope of the reduction of (151) Ireland, upon the success we have lately had, and therefore the more prone to embrace hopeful and generous councils. So that any encouragement from thence would come very seasonably to embark us frankly into some gallant action. (428) The Earl of Essex is no actor in our triumphs, as I wrote was conceived, but yet is not out of hope of some melioration of fortune. Out of (205) Scotland we hear, there is no good agreement, but rather an open diffidence between (165 counsel) the King of scots and his wise; and many are of opinion, that the discovery of some affection between her and the Earl gowry's brother, (who was killed with him) was the truest cause and motive of all that tragedy. If you meet with Colvel at Avignon, I hope he hath delivered you some more light of their intentions. His last advertisements which you sent by Simons, were not to be contemned; we are much distasted with that which we hear daily to that purpose. But I do not see that we go about to provide any remedy, especially any lenitive, but rather such as is likely to exasperate, and consequently hasten the mischief. We have yet no answer to the letter written to Richardot, whereof I sent you a copy in mine of the 2d of this month, therefore I can make no judgment of the progress of that matter. But my opinion is, we may be seconded in any competent measure from those parts; otherwise there is no doubt but we shall be forced to strike sail in the end.
The indian voyage goeth on a main, the charge will be about 54000 l. I pray you lay hold of the offer made you by (advice) the Ambassador of Florence, for the settling of intelligence from (200) Spain: and if you light on any other good means while you are in these parts, neglect it not. I suppose you make some use of (dissimulation) the Duke de espernon's Secretary, which if I might know, I would provide a nagg to bestow upon him. I think to be at Paris about the middle of December; where, if you find the King resolved to come thither before Christmas, I would you would meet me; but if otherwise, write me so much by this bearer, and stay till you hear again: for if the King be likely to return to Paris within a month after I come, I will make no haste to him, otherwise I will resolve to go on. And so for this time I commend me heartily unto you, and commit you to God.
Your very loving friend, HENRY NEVILLE.
28 December 1600
Henry Neville to Ralph Winwood
ID: letter_080
,, 28th Dec. 1600.
YOUR two letters of the fourth and eighth of this month came both at once to my hands upon Christmas-day, the one by Simons, and the other by Parnell; which I sent presently to Mr. Secretary, my self being then in a shrewd sit of the stone, which hath likewise forced me to keep in ever since. But I understand, the Queen received very great contentment and satisfaction of your letters, and hath been inquisitive of you, both of my uncle killigrew and others; to whom I have given direction, to answer upon the like occasion, that which I hope may produce some good effect towards you. I shall not need to write you much now, because I intend my dispatch presently after the holydays; having indeed stayed for nothing else any time these three weeks, but for the two letters which the Queen intends to write with her own hand to the King and the Queen, which she forbore to write because of a little rhume she had, which is now past, thanks be to God. Although my dispatch be like to be so speedy, yet I hope to hear once more from you before my going, and receive some more certainty of the King's resolution for the passing of this winter, which is the thing that most imports me in my own particular. If the Queen and the council come back to Paris, though the King should stay in those parts some time after, I think you may very well return, for it is like he will not be long behind. I wish that before my coming, you made some little summons to some contentment this year, and not to forget her in the making of the estimate. For by their answer, I shall discover somewhat of their intention, and be the better prepared to deal with them at my coming.
The things which I do especially recommend unto your care to penetrate in the mean time, are the cardinall's negotiations, and the intention, both of the French and spaniards, about this war of Savoy. For our parts, I think we shall some time in February or march, resume the treaty; but the naming the commissioners is deferred, till the answer comes to the last letters we sent to brussells, which we expect within eight or ten days. Here hath been an expectation any time this month, of 5000 men to come out of Spain by sea into the low-countries, and provision made both by the Queen and the states to encounter them; but the wind hath been so constant in the north, till within these three days, that we have heard nothing of them. If they come, I hope they will not find that fortune that the galleys did. You write of the return of Monsieur de la Rochepot's Secretary out of Spain: we have a news here, that himself is coming back likewise; and it is written from Bayonne, that the King there, hath not yet confirmed and sworn to the peace. I pray you lay hold of the offer which was made you by (advice) the Ambassador of Florence, to procure some good intelligence out of (200) Spain, for ours here is very weak I fear.
My Lord Deputy of Ireland hath in his return from Armagh, sought again with Tyrone in the same place, and beaten him, and forced his passage, which we account a piece of very good service. The Earl of Clanrickard hath had a draught also at the rebels of Connacht. Donell Sparmigh a great rebel is come in, and hath given his sons in hostage. Torlough (Mr. Henry) a principal rebel is dead lately. My Lord is now again in the field, to scour and clear the province of Leinster, and the county of Leix, from the straggling rebels there; and Munster, as I have written before, is held very peaceable. So as in conclusion, we are in hope that the heart of that rebellion is broken, and that in one year more there will be a great work wrought there, ainsi soit il. And so, with hearty commendations from all your friends, and namely from my sister, who is a wife of some fifteen days standing; and who with my wife thanks you for your tokens, I commit you to God.
Your very loving friend, HENRY NEVILLE.
01 January 1601
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_107
Court. Right honble. I was bold of late by my letter unto your honor. to beseech you to consider of the particular of my poor estate, which I had before delivered, & did at that time remember unto your honor. And whereupon to determine what satisfaction might be taken out of it, to give her majesty. contentment, & withal to leave me some necessary maintenance for my self, my wife & my poor children. I am bold now again to continue the same suit, as not daring to presume to set any bounds or measure to her Majesty. mercy, but ready to embrace with all due thankfulness the goodness that it will please her to extend unto me. & withal to yield to any satisfaction that she shall be pleased to exact of me, which may possibly arise out of those poor means which I have. On the other side, if there be more required of me, then my estate can yield, I must prepare my self to endure with patience, the misery that I have no power to avoid. I have entreated this bearer my deer friend, to move your honor. more particularly in this matter, to whom I refer my self: And do, as before, so now again, put my self & my poor fortune absolutely into your hands, & resolve to submit my self to any thing that your honor: shall determine of me, and to dedicate my self, & that poor estate that shall be left me, entirely unto your service. And so in hope of speedy comfort, I humbly kiss your hands, & rest, Your honor 's. most bounden and ready to serve you. Henry Neville
01 January 1601
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_108
Right honorable. Although the former experience I have had of your honble. favor and care of me, hath given me sufficient assurance, that you will not be unmindful of me to do me good, as occasion and opportunity shall be offered, yet I trust it will not be offensive unto your honor., if out of the continual feeling of my misfortune, I be provoked to take the boldness to solicit you often in it. Wherein although I have neglected none of the other lords, to whom her Majesty. hath committed the care of this business, but have used such means unto them as did become me, yet I must confess that my chief suit and hope rests in your honor: both because my desire is to be chiefly bound unto your honor, And because all men do chiefly acknowledge from you, the favor that hath been showed to the other offenders in this unfortunate action. I was bold heretofore to pray your honor. to call to mind, the saying of Christ, concerning a sinful woman which showed an extraordinary affection towards him; That she loved much because much was forgiven her. If the love and duty of a poor man so overthrown as I am, were worth the regarding, I would beseech your honor. to apply that example to me, and to be assured that my serviceable affection would abound the more, by the view & consideration of my present estate. But being out of hope, to be able to do any duty or service that may induce favor, I must only fly unto charity, and beseech your. honor. in that regard, to put the last hand to this work, and to take the honor of my preservation from vtter ruin, as you have had, of the good done hitherto to me, and all the rest. My offer I understand is not allowed, chiefly because I desire the latter 2000li to be stalled by 200li a year: which is not so much as was granted to my lord Sandes. for he paid in but on thousand pound, & had the rest stalled by 200li a year; whereas I offer 2000li in hand, & require but the other moiety to be so stalled. I beseech your honor. to be good unto me in it, and rather to increase somewhat in the total sum, if needs it must to be, then to allter that manor of payment. This I write particularly unto your honor. but to the lords in general I insist upon my former offer, and have diverted this bearer to present my petition which I sent to Basing, if your honor. do not dislike of it. And thus craving pardon of my importunity, whereunto my present misery enforces me, and vowing whatsoever this misfortune will leave me, unto your service, I recommend your honor. to the protection of the almighty, and rest Your honor 's. most bounden and ready to serve you. Henry Neville.
23 January 1601
Henry Neville to Ralph Winwood
ID: letter_081
,, 23d Jan. 1600.
YOUR letters of the 2d and 13th of this month arrived here the 21th, and yesterday the Queen finished her two letters to the King and Queen; so as I look now to be dispatched forthwith, and to set forward, about the morrow after Candlemas-day. I mean to come by Rouen wheresoever I land, because I would make a beginning with the commissioners there, in some course of justice, for the wrongs we have received by the French, as well as they have pursued their complaints, and received satisfaction here. I would be glad to meet you there, for that and other causes; but I would not wish you to stir, till you hear more; for upon my arrival I will presently dispatch one to you, so as you may meet me time enough at Rouen.
Since my last by Romain, my Lord of Pembroke is dead, having left his son but two months within age. We are in expectation of a vice chamberlain, and a Chancellor of the duchy, viz. Sir Walter Raleigh, and Sir John Stanhope; and that Serjeant Heale shall be Master of the Rolls, upon sundry good considerations: many other matters I refer till our meeting. In the mean time being glad of your safe return to Paris, I end with hearty commendations from my self and all your friends. And so I commit you to God. Your very loving friend, HENRY NEVILLE.
Sir, I pray you remember to put the Duke de Bouillon and Monsieur de Rosny in mind of the money, if they come to Paris before me, for the time draws on apace.
01 March 1601
Document: Neville's Case
ID: document_neville_case
Although I mean not to justify my self altogether from blame, but do freely and willingly acknowledge an offense, and submit my self to her Majesty 's mercy; yet my own soul witnessing to her self, that it was ever loyal and faithful to her Majesty, and consequently abhorring more than death, the imputation of that fault, and loathsome crime of falsehood and treason, I do only desire, that my fault may not be barely or nakedly censured, but examined together with all the circumstances that did accompany it; which are the best means to try, not only the actions, but the intentions of all men, as far as it is possible to penetrate.
I have already acknowledged to the lords of her majesties privy council, that I was entreated by Mr. Cuff, in the late Earl of Essex his name, to meet with the Earl of Southampton and Sir Charles Davers; by them to understand some project which he had in consultation, touching his own good, and the good of the state, and to give my advice in it; with assurance, that nothing should be proposed, which I might not hear with due respect to my allegiance; for so the words of the Messenger did import. After some ten days delay on my part, and often solicitation, I went to Drury House on Candlemas-day, and met with them; where their project being opened unto me, I objected both against the nature and difficulties of it, gave no approbation, or promise of partaking, but only said I would advice of it. After which, I never spake with them, nor heard from them; and when Mr. Cuffe came soon after unto me, I utterly refused to have any part or hand in the matter; and being requested to come, and speak with the Earl of Essex himself about the third day after, I refused it, because indeed I would have nothing to do with him, finding that he had such conceits working in his mind. The bare and simple truth of my case is this. Whereby it appeareth, first, that it was not a matter that originally entered into my thoughts, but that I was enticed, and in a manner enforced to hear it. For with these protestations and assurances, how could I well have refused, and who might not have been abused as well as I? And if these assurances had been performed, what offense had it been to have heard what had been proposed? Secondly it appeareth, that at the first proposition I gave not approbation, but rather made opposition to it, and afterwards refused absolutely to have any hand or fellowship in it: which will I hope sufficiently argue, that neither originally, nor by persuasion, any disloyal thought against her Majesty did ever settle in my mind. For the better evidence whereof, I desire that these circumstances may be considered. First that I never had any inwardness with the Earl of Essex, nor any dependency on him, nor any obligation to him, when he was in his highest fortunes; but had rather cause of unkindness and discourtesy offered me by him sundry times, as I have showed my lords of the council, & c. And if it be objected, that I went to see him in October last, and might then begin a friendship and inwardness with him; besides, that I avow there passed nothing of that kind, but General compliments between us; let all men consider, what kind of inwardness that was likely to be, seeing that in four months after, he lying in London, and my self likewise, I never so much as once saw him, or had any communication with him. Secondly, I desire that it may be remembered, that this meeting at Drury House was not till Candlemas; whereas her Majesty had signed my privy-seal and all my dispatches, at the least four days before; and in truth if I could have got my money (which I laboured with all earnestness both my Lord Treasurer and Mr. Skinner, and was at length forced to signify to Mr. Secretary that I could not get it, albeit my journey stayed upon nothing else,) I fully purposed to have set forward upon the Thursday after Candlemas-day at the farthest; and if that had been so, undoubtedly I had never met with them. Now then my dispatches being ready signed, and my self making all the haste I could to set forward within so few days, what likelihood is there that the Earl should build upon any thing from me, in that I was not likely to see the issue of? Especially, which I desire may be noted as the third circumstance, being the matter was delivered to me as an undigested conception, and not as a resolution; and besides that, they never imparted to me their articles whereof they did deliberate. Fourthly it may be considered, that after that conference, I never saw them that had broken the matter to me, nor ever heard from them. Which argueth, that they found little comfort at my hands, and made small account of me in the matter; as it appears likewise in this, that when they made their desperate attempt upon the Sunday, and sought to gather unto them all those of whom they had any hope whatsoever, though it were but by presumption, they never sent to me nor made me acquainted with it, as the Lord knows, and as I hope they all testified; which is a plain argument that they had not any confidence in me. Nay rather, considering that Cuffe never came to me, after that I refused to come to my Lord; and how unequally (that I may not say uncharitably) my Lord dealt with me in his confession; wherein he delivered matters to charge me, but nothing to discharge me, although both alike known unto him, and how he hath added some things nothing pertinent to this matter, and only of purpose to aggravate as it seems; I have cause to think that he took offense against me for my refusal, and perhaps afterwards conceived that I was the revealer of it. But howsoever, I do freely and from my heart, acknowledge my offense in concealing of it, and do humbly implore her majesties pardon and mercy for it; but protest it was not from any malice or discontent against the state, for who had more interest therein than I? Nor any desire that the attempt should succeed, for who could have more disliked it than I? Nor any personal affection to my Lord, for I never had any particular obligation to him: but partly upon contempt of the matter, being so weak and unlikely a project (neither formed nor resolved of) as I hoped would have proved abortive, and vanished of it self, whensoever they should have laid aside the passion of discontentment and examined it with reason; and partly upon an imbecility and weakness of my own nature, (if so it be to be termed,) which could not resolve to become an accuser. I do confess it was a great fault; and I do assure my self that her Majesty will believe, that it was but a fault. And so I throw my self at her majesties feet, & c.
HENRY NEVILLE.
02 March 1601
Document: Neville Confession
ID: letter_135
Right Honourable, my duty and conscience binding me, besides your Honour 's commandment, to declare whatsoever hath come to my knowledge touching the designs and the enterprises of the late Earl of Essex, I have faithfully set it down in this evil couched narration following; and not only that, but whatsoever else hath passed between me and him or any of his complices since my coming out of France, that your Lordships seeing all the circumstances that concern me laid open before you, may make the clearer judgment of my intention.
It may please your Honours to understand that at my arrival at London from Boulogne, which was, as I remember, the sixth of August last, I met with a message which Mr. Cuffe (with whom I had had long acquaintance) left at my lodging the day before to this effect; that I had had evil offices done me, as my Lord of Essex was informed by his friends in Court, and that some great blame was like to be cast upon me for the breach at Boulogne, as if I had by some particular evil carriage of mine given the occasion of it; which my Lord in good will was desirous I should know, that I might be prepared to answer it. Mr. Cuffe himself was then gone out of town to Oxford, as I remember it was said, but returned upon the Monday after, being the 10th or 11th of the month, and came presently unto me and renewed the same advertisement. But I had been in the meantime at the Court and found no such matter, but rather altogether the contrary, and so I answered him. But he said howsoever things were turned now, there was such an intention; and my Lord had received it from so good hand, as there could not be but some truth in it; and that my Lord in good will would have me know it, being one that he esteemed very much and was sorry to see so wronged. I answered that I did acknowledge myself very much bound to my Lord in it and did take it for a great argument of his good will and favour, which I would deserve with any service I could do him. Not long after this he brought me a letter from my Lord full of all kindness towards me, testifying his good conceit of me and his affection towards me, and that he desired my love and would hold it as a great treasure. I returned an answer with the best compliments I could, with such phrases and offers of service as are usual unto such persons and upon such kind provocations. Soon after my Lord went into the country, and myself likewise for a time; where although I remained within ten miles of him, and rode twice in the week by the park pale where he lay, I protest I never saw him, nor sent to him either to present or visit him, although I understood that most gentlemen in those parts did both.
But Cuffe came from thence once to my house, and brought me very kind commendations from my Lord, and purposed as it seemed to have stayed two or three days with me, but that the next day I had occasion to ride into the vale, and so we parted at Netlebed. After this I saw him not till my coming to London, which was not till after the middle of October; where I had not been long but he came to see me, and moved me to come to see my Lord, saying that now he was at liberty and that all the world that would now came at him. I said I would find a time to come see him ere it were long; but yet upon some occasion of business I had, I put it off for four or five days. But at length he named me a time, saying that he had told my Lord I would come, and that he expected it and would marvel if I came not. He said that time would be very fit, and that he would desire my Lord to go to supper so much the sooner. He told me also he would appoint one to meet me and bring me in to my Lord 's study. I came accordingly in the evening about eight o'clock as I guess, and was met by Glascocke my Lord 's man, who conducted me, as Mr. Cuffe (he said) had directed. After some half-hour 's stay or more my Lord came up, and received me very kindly, and entertained me with many questions of foreign matters; and some hopes of his own about the sweet wines, and otherwise to be restored to her Majesty 's presence and favour ere it were long, and at length dismissed me with very kind offers, and brought me down himself to the back gate. But in all his talk I protest I did not hear him use any undutiful speech of the Queen or the state. After this visitation I protest I never spake with him, nor received any letter from him, nor he from me. Cuffe would come sometimes unto me. And when I asked him how his Lord 's matters stood in Court, he would sometimes give show of hope and sometimes of despair. And at those times when he seemed to despair he would break out into words of heat and impatience: as namely once I remember he repeated this verse—Arma tenenti omnia dat qui justa negat. Whereunto I answered in French tout beau, he spake very big. And either at that time or another upon like occasion he said it made no matter, it would give my Lord cause to think the sooner of some other courses. About Christmas last, but whether before or after I do not well remember, he told me they were informed that there was a purpose to take some pretext to lay up my Lord of Southampton; and that they took it as a preface to the laying up of my Lord of Essex himself; but that he thought my Lord was resolved they should never coop him more. With these uncertain and wild speeches he would sometimes entertain me, and never brake directly with me till the Saturday after Candlemas Term began, as I remember. And then I coming unto my lodging somewhat late in the evening found him there, where he had attended me an hour or two, as I learned. He desired me to walk up into my chamber, which he had not used to do before; and there he told me, after a preface of the confidence that my Lord had of my good affection towards the state and towards himself in particular, that his purpose was to make me privy to some designs he had both for his own safety and for the good of the state: wherein he would first assure me that there should be nothing intended or attempted against her Majesty 's person or estate, and told me further that my Lord did not desire that I should embark myself into it further than I was willing, but that when I should hear it proposed I should consider of it and give him what advice I thought fit. And for that purpose he desired that I would meet as soon as might be with my Lord of Southampton and Sir Charles Davers, who should relate the particulars unto me. I told him that, with that limitation which he promised me that nothing should be attempted against the Queen 's person nor her estate, I could be contented to hear what should be proposed, and would meet for that purpose the next day in the afternoon at Sir Charles Davers'lodging. But that day I was appointed to attend the Lords about French causes, where I stayed till it was late and so disappointed the meeting. The Monday and Tuesday I attended Mr. Secretary Herbert at the Doctors'Commons about an answer to be made to the French ambassador 's complaints. The Wednesday we spent all the afternoon with the ambassador. The Thursday, Friday, and Saturday, I excused myself by reason of my private business. Yet upon the Friday or Saturday, as I remember, having understood that Sir Charles Davers was not at his lodging, I went that way and left word that I had been there to see him: which I did because I had been often solicited by Cuffe in the meantime about the meeting and told that they began to make an evil judgment of my delay. And when I answered that my Lord might as well deliver his mind to me by him as by them, he said my Lord had rather made choice of them than of him, to breed a confidence between them and me. And indeed Mr. Cuffe had been at least two or three months persuading me to make acquaintance with my Lord of Southampton and Sir Charles Davers, who he said did greatly desire notwithstanding I still omitted it. And at length he brought Sir Charles Davers to my lodging about a fortnight after Christmas, when I protest there passed nothing but compliments and ordinary talk, and was the first time that ever I had spoken with Sir Charles Davers in my life. Upon Monday, being Candlemas Day, in the afternoon about four o'clock, as I was coming out of Serjeant 's Inn, where I had acknowledged a statute before my Lord Anderson and sealed other writings, there came by in coach my Lords of Essex and Southampton, Sir Christopher Blunt and Sir Charles Davers, and went towards the Stran. And because I had told Cuffe that I would be there that day, and they had seen me so near, I went thence soon after to Drury House, and there found my Lord of Southampton with Sir Charles Davers; where after some ordinary salutations, because I had never spoken with my Lord since he was a child in my Lord Treasurer 's house, my Lord began to break with me that my Lord had received by Mr. Cuffe so good a persuasion both of my love to him and of my honesty, discretion, and secrecy, that he had given him commission to reveal unto me a matter of great secrecy and importance; namely that my Lord finding his life sought by his enemies by undue means, and despairing of justice against them because they were so potent about the Queen, and did besiege her so as nothing could come to her knowledge but what they listed, was advised to make his repair to her presence to declare both his particular grievances and many other, which because he knew he should not be suffered to do in private sort, he was advised to go so well accompanied as he might not be kept from her. That for the effecting thereof it was proposed to send some forty persons in several companies to the Mews, who upon the discovery of my Lord 's approach (who should come in coach, well attended, with my Lord of Southampton) should make on before to the Court gate and possess it. And some other of the company to be before in the hall of the Court, who upon the sight of their possessing the gate should make up into the Guard-chamber and seize upon the guards'halberds, and so be masters of that chamber. And in the presence that there should be some lords and others to welcome my Lord when he came, and to go in with him to the Queen and countenance the action. Herein my Lord required my advice. I told him it was a matter of too great weight to be suddenly digested. But for the assurance Mr. Cuffe had given of me, if he had not exceeded his commission, which I hoped he would not being an honest man, I would perform what he had delivered from me. But for offering to draw my sword in the cause, I vow before God and his angels I never offered it nor ever meant it. Some objections and difficulties I proposed as upon the sudden, as namely these. That this was an action of the nature of those which, as Tacitus saith, non laudantur nisi peracta, and would be interpreted by the success. That it was full of difficulties and dangers; first, because it was almost impossible to prepare so many hands as should suffice for it without communicating it to so many as it must needs be revealed. Secondly, if any door were found shut upon them they were disappointed. And lastly, the City of Westminster was at hand, which though they should prevail at the first so far as to possess the gate, yet might quickly bring in force enough to dispossess them and pull them out by the ears. To the first difficulty they answered that they would not make their purpose known till the morning they intended to execute it; and that they would draw their company together upon some other pretext. To the second, that they hoped to come so unexpected, and those which they appointed to be before in course should be so vigilant, as there should not be time to shut any doors. And to the last, that being once in Court, and having the show of the state on their side, nobody would stir against them. Their end as it seemed was to seize on the persons of those they accounted my Lord 's enemies, and to require justice against them, tendering other presently to supply their places. I can not certainly say that they then spake of any Parliament to be called. But I am sure Cuffe did afterwards. In speech of their means I do not remember that they spake of above a hundred and twenty hands; some noblemen they named that they would take along with them, as among other my Lord of Rutland. But they said they could not trust him with the matter above two hours before they attempted it. They spake of seizing the Tower as a matter which they could do when they would by the means of Sir John Davies. But surely at that time they had resolved certainly, as it seemed to me, neither of the time nor any circumstance of their attempt. In conclusion they prayed me to think of it, because it was new to me, and said that Sir Charles Davers should come unto me within four or five days under pretence of taking his leave of me, to have further conference of it. Since which time God is my witness I never saw either of them, or received letter or message from them or they from me. But Cuffe came to me within a day or two after, to whom I related what had passed at that conference, and said I could not nor would not give any approbation to any such enterprise unless the undertakers did all take a solemn oath not to attempt anything against the Queen 's person or her estate, as they had done in the enterprise of Amboise, a precedent whereof was to be seen in the story. And further, seeing I perceived it was directed among other against Mr. Secretary, I said I would have no hand nor be an actor in it, because I was near allied unto him and had been beholden to him, as all the world took knowledge. And I would not blot my reputation to be false unto him or any man. And this I told him walking in the alley by the east wall in the garden of my lodging; and added these words, that they must dare pudori not to embark me into any action against him. He answered me that for the first I should make no doubt of it but I should be fully satisfied, and himself wished as well as I that it should be so. And for the second, I had reason and they would not press me. Only he wished I might be in the presence at the time when it should happen. And asking why? he said my Lord meant to name me among other to supply some place there, and he would have me at hand. And when I replied that I should be gone into France out of hand, and that my dispatches were signed, he told me I might feign myself sick if I were pressed to be gone; which notwithstanding I did not, as some of your Honours know, but solicited as much as I could possible to receive my money out of the Exchequer, as Mr. Skinner will testify, with a purpose to have been gone presently. So little will or purpose had I to have any partaking with the Earl even in that wherein he pretended mine own advancement. I remember that in some of his conferences with me about that time he moved me to sound a minister whom I was familiar with, how he stood affected to my Lord, and what he did conceive of the affection of the City to my Lord in his former troubles, which notwithstanding I did not. And indeed that minister was out of town all that while. He told me also that there was a buz and a flying rumour that there was some practice against my Lord 's person, which caused very many both noblemen and other to come and offer themselves to my Lord, and that there came more than they could tell well what to do with or how to put them off. About the middle of that week he told me that there had been warning given to the Mayor of London to look to the City, but that he made account that the affection of the City was sure unto my Lord, and that of twenty-four Aldermen they held themselves assured of twenty or twenty-one. The last time I spake with him he desired me from my Lord that although I would not be an actor myself in the matter, I would command my men if I were in the Court when my Lord came thither either to take part with him or at least not to take part against him. Whereunto I answered, Very well: which how he construed, I know not. But God is my witness that I neither did it nor ever meant it. And I humbly desire that my servants, if it be thought meet, may be examined of it.
Lastly, I vow and protest before Almighty God that I knew nothing neither of the matter, manner, time, nor any circumstance of their attempt that Sunday. But came that morning to the Court with Otwell Smith (as he can testify) to have spoken with Mr. Secretary about the merchants'causes at Rouen, where when I understood what course the Earl took, and saw the vizard taken from him and his true intents laid open which he had so disguised before with specious pretences and cloaks of religion and virtue, I detested him and his actions from the bottom of my heart, and remained in Court till ten o'clock at night with a purpose to have spent my life in her Majesty 's defence, if there had been cause, as readily and as willingly as any man of my sort in the company. Secundo Martii, 1600.
05 March 1601
Henry Neville to Ralph Winwood
ID: letter_131
I suppose you will have understood of my misfortune before this letter come unto your hands. or howsoever, I had rather you should know it by any body then by my self. Though my fortune be unlikely to afford you that requital which your pains, faith & love towards me hath deserved, yet I doubt not but the proof you have made of your work and sufficiency in the charge you have held there, will raise you up friends that will supply my defect & disability. whereof I shall be as glad as of any good that may happen to my self. your letter by Simons I received upon my way at Rochester. Since that I have been in trouble & hard nothing. But I am commanded by Mr. Secretary to write unto you to continue your charge, till her majesty. take some other order for the supplying of the place I held there. And for my self I am licensed to dissolve my family there. which gives me occasion to be troublesome unto you and to desire you to take some pains and care for me this once more, & to add extremam manum to all your former kindness. first my desire is that you should take account for me both of my steward & richard hauthorne of all such money as they have received & disbursed since their last account made to me at my coming from Paris, whereunto you shall find my hand at the foot of the account. and with the overplus I pray you see the butcher & rotisseur discharged & any thing els that is owing there, if any there be. next I pray you pay unto Stallin him self 100 crowns for his wages for five quarters of a year. for till Christmas was a twelvemonth I paid him all that was due, before I cam away. This done I pray you call to hauthorne for a letter I wrote unto him in August or September last, wherein I appointed him to sell away some part of my stuff, and let the contents of that letter be performed in every point. only I pray you to do me the pleasure to have some oversight of the doing of it & to take the money into your hands that is made of it. The rest of the stuff I left there (besides that I appoint to be sold) and likewise all that I sent over last with hammon to be sent for England except there be any thing that you may have use of for your self, which I am very willing you shall retain. The provisions likewise which I either left or sent over, either of spice, sugr grocery ware wine lights or such like may be sold away saving what you will reserve for your self. And? the house discharged & my people with the stuff sent by water to Rouen, & from thence the directest way for England. And because it may perhaps be long ere there be any good commodity of passage from rouen by water, if it be not to chargeable I would it were conveyed overland from rouen to deep & so shipped for dover in some safe passage, because there is matter of charge of the queen 's plate & mine own, among it I would pray you also to cause the tronke or chest to be opened, wherein the plate is that I left at Paris, and to take out the money which you find in it, which is better then thirty pound, & reserve it for your own use, & so make up the chest safe again & send it with the rest of the stuff .. if you deliver any money for the charges of my people & my stuff bringing home I pray you give it to Hammon to account for at his return. now because you may have some certainty to charge my two servants upon their accounts, you shall understand that besides that I left with them, hawthorne by this inclosed note of his own hand, sent me in october last, confesses the receipt of 63 crowns & a frank. Since that Stallin received of Mr. willaston 50li sterling when he likewise received other 50 li for young H Savile. And now since again Mr. Bashe hath delivered me this inclosed reckoning wherein he charges upon them 175li—2s sterling as paid unto them and disbursed for the freight of my stuff which in all comes to — 359li—2s. Besides that I left in Stallins hands & to be received by him presently from Mr. willaston at my coming aware Stallin also wrote me that he was to receive for the impost of my wine, of mine host of Orleans 92 crowns when you have taken their accounts I pray you send them me inclosed in a packet directed to my wife. I am ashamed to put you to this trouble. But where I am so much beholden already, I will not refuse to be beholden so much more hereafter I pray you direct your letters to Mr. Secretary and not to me. God keep you, and send you that fortune and good acceptation that I know you are worthy of. from my lord Admirals house at Chelsey, where I am in a very honorable prison, the 5th. of March 1600
05 March 1601
Henry Neville to Ralph Winwood
ID: letter_132
I suppose you will have understood of my misfortune before this letter come unto your hands. or howsoever, I had rather you should know it by any body then by my self. Though my fortune be unlikely to afford you that requital which your pains, faith & love towards me hath deserved, yet I doubt not but the proof you have made of your work and sufficiency in the charge you have held there, will raise you up friends that will supply my defect & disability. whereof I shall be as glad as of any good that may happen to my self. your letter by Simons I received upon my way at Rochester. Since that I have been in trouble & hard nothing. But I am commanded by Mr. Secretary to write unto you to continue your charge, till her majesty. take some other order for the supplying of the place I held there. And for my self I am licensed to dissolve my family there. which gives me occasion to be troublesome unto you and to desire you to take some pains and care for me this once more, & to add extremam manum to all your former kindness. first my desire is that you should take account for me both of my steward & richard hauthorne of all such money as they have received & disbursed since their last account made to me at my coming from Paris, whereunto you shall find my hand at the foot of the account. and with the overplus I pray you see the butcher & rotisseur discharged & any thing els that is owing there, if any there be. next I pray you pay unto Stallin him self 100 crowns for his wages for five quarters of a year. for till Christmas was a twelvemonth I paid him all that was due, before I cam away. This done I pray you call to hauthorne for a letter I wrote unto him in August or September last, wherein I appointed him to sell away some part of my stuff, and let the contents of that letter be performed in every point. only I pray you to do me the pleasure to have some oversight of the doing of it & to take the money into your hands that is made of it. The rest of the stuff I left there (besides that I appoint to be sold) and likewise all that I sent over last with hammon to be sent for England except there be any thing that you may have use of for your self, which I am very willing you shall retain. The provisions likewise which I either left or sent over, either of spice, sugr grocery ware wine lights or such like may be sold away saving what you will reserve for your self. And? the house discharged & my people with the stuff sent by water to Rouen, & from thence the directest way for England. And because it may perhaps be long ere there be any good commodity of passage from rouen by water, if it be not to chargeable I would it were conveyed overland from rouen to deep & so shipped for dover in some safe passage, because there is matter of charge of the queen 's plate & mine own, among it I would pray you also to cause the tronke or chest to be opened, wherein the plate is that I left at Paris, and to take out the money which you find in it, which is better then thirty pound, & reserve it for your own use, & so make up the chest safe again & send it with the rest of the stuff .. if you deliver any money for the charges of my people & my stuff bringing home I pray you give it to Hammon to account for at his return. now because you may have some certainty to charge my two servants upon their accounts, you shall understand that besides that I left with them, hawthorne by this inclosed note of his own hand, sent me in october last, confesses the receipt of 63 crowns & a frank. Since that Stallin received of Mr. willaston 50li sterling when he likewise received other 50 li for young H Savile. And now since again Mr. Bashe hath delivered me this inclosed reckoning wherein he charges upon them 175li—2s sterling as paid unto them and disbursed for the freight of my stuff which in all comes to — 359li—2s. Besides that I left in Stallins hands & to be received by him presently from Mr. willaston at my coming aware Stallin also wrote me that he was to receive for the impost of my wine, of mine host of Orleans 92 crowns when you have taken their accounts I pray you send them me inclosed in a packet directed to my wife. I am ashamed to put you to this trouble. But where I am so much beholden already, I will not refuse to be beholden so much more hereafter I pray you direct your letters to Mr. Secretary and not to me. God keep you, and send you that fortune and good acceptation that I know you are worthy of. from my lord Admirals house at Chelsey, where I am in a very honorable prison, the 5th. of March 1600
16 March 1601
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_096
Court. Right honorable. According to your commandment I have written to Mr. Winwood to continue in his charge till he receive other direction from your honor. for his entertainment, I have hitherto made him allowance of 30s a day as he brought me word him self that your honor. had promised him. for the time to come, it may please you to signify your pleasure to him. I have written unto him likewise by your honor 's. permission, to discharge my family & to send away my stuff. my letter Mr. Locke read over & saw me take out the papers I used for that purpose, which done I delivered him the key of my desk. I have sent your honor. the queen 's letters which I should have carried over with me. And so recommending always my poor fortune unto your. honorable favor I rest Your honor 's. most bounden to pray for you. Henry Neville
22 April 1601
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_143_cecil_1601_04_22_chelsea
Right honorable The season approching, wherein it is generally reported, that there will be some end made of the troubles grown by these late wretched accidents, puts me in mind likewise to renew my suit, and to recommend my poor estate again unto your honors favour. not that I doubt any thing of that, whereof I have had in both fortunes so good proof; but that I may not seem to slumber or sleep in so great a calamity. it hath pleased your honor from the beginning of my trouble, to show a tender care of my credit: for which I acknowledge my self as much bound as for your care of my life it self. I beseech your honor to continue the same regard of me, and so to dispose of me in the issue of this trouble, that I may not by any public disgrace be made unable or unworthy to be commanded by her majesty & your honor hereafter. for, god is my witness, I desire to cancel by some faithful service the fault I have now committed. And I do not despair, but god will offer the means & occasion in his good time. Therefore again & again I do beseech your honor, whatsoever shall be inflicted upon me, to preserve me from any public infamy. And to this end, (having heard a rumor that there is a declaration like to be published of these late practises, wherein peradventure my name may come in question among the rest) I humbly desire, if it be thought convenient that I be mentioned at all (which considering how little hand or consent I had in them I would hope were not necessary) yet that it may be done as sparingly, and with as little touch to me as the cause will bear. And particularly I most humbly beseech your honor to favor me so much, as that my declaration may not be put in print. for I made it in hast, mr L. Admirals servant mr Burnell being sent for it when I had but new begun it, and signifying that it was willed to be at the Tower with it by eleven of clock. By occasion whereof chiefly and partly also because some of your lops told me the night before, that you intended not to use it against my self, but to another end, I omitted both matter & circumstances, which would much have Justified me & cleared mine intention from consent or participation in these actions. So as if it should be published in that naked sort as it is set down, it would be to my infinite disadvantage,
and lay me open to the censure of every common person, even for that whereof I am not guilty. Therefore chiefly I desire it may not be published. or if that must needs be (as I somewhat hope there is no such necessity, matters being otherwise clear inough, and my knowledge of a intended design being but at the second or third hand, and that only in generalities) I humbly desire that I may be permitted to revise it, and to add some circumstances which I have either by word or writing already declared unto your honor; that so the world may know the best of me as well as the worst. And herein, as in a matter that toucheth me nearly, I beseech your honor to let me find that favor, wherewith you have ever prevented my merit in all my occasions. And in requital of this and all other your goodness towards me, I beseech your honor to dispose both of my self & my whole estate, as things rightfully & entirely due unto you, & acknowledged from you. And so I cease to trouble your honor any farther at this time, & rest now and ever
Your honors most bounden to serve you
Henry Neville
from Chelsey the 22 th of April 1601
20 May 1601
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_144_cecil_1601_05_20_tower
Right honorable. As I was bold upon my first commitment to recommend my poor estate unto your honor: in a joint letter written unto you & other of the lords; so taking a more especial and indeed my chief and only confidence (after god) in your good favour & compassion towards me, I have presumed now again to renew my suit particularly unto your honor: humbly beseeching you not to look upon my offences only with the severe eye of a councillor of State, but sometimes also with the affectionate eye of an honorable friend, and to think of my poor wife and children, whose good or ruin is now in your hands; that thereby you may be moved to hasten us some comfort. Your honorable intentions towards me I need not repeat the nature of my offence: neither do I mean to justify my self. I acknowledge a great fault, only I would be glad it might be conceived that there was more misfortune than malice in it. misfortune I mean, both in being so abused, brought to hear that I never thought to hear, and in being prevented in the purpose I had to discharge my duty. Let my whole life & former carriage towards her majesty I beseech you be examined, & by that, let there be some judgment made of my heart and intention towards her. But I disclaim (as I said) all justification, and appeal only to her princely mercy; humbly desiring that I may have cause to rejoice in it as well as many other, towards whom she hath been plea sed to begin a mild & merciful course, to her eternal glory. To conclude, I humbly beseech your honor to think of me, as of your poor creature, who hath bowed his self wholly unto you, to honour & serve you with as much faith and affection as any man living. And so I beseech God long to bless you with all happiness and to render unto you the goodness that I have found at your hands. from the Tower this 20 th of May 1601
Your honors most bounden to do you service
Henry Neville
09 July 1601
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_145_cecil_1601_07_09
Right honorable. In the middst of all my misery, I confess I have received great comfort in the assurance of your honors constant favour towards me. And that not only for the fruit & benefit I have reaped by it, being no less then the preservation of my life and state from those extreme courses, which otherwise I do hold would have been taken against me; but even as much for the hope that I conceive thereby, that your honor doth not in your private judgment condemn me to have been so wicked and disloyal, as my folly and misfortune together have made me to seem I do with all humble thanks acknowledge this benefit, and profess to owe you my life and that I will be ready to offer it, in all occasions where it may do you service to spend it. And in the mean time to employ it to your commandment. And I do with like humbleness beseech you to continue your honourable conceit of me. And whatsoever other opinion I have deserved to lose, that you will vouchsafe still to hold me an honest man, for that is the highest title that I aspire unto. how otherwise soever I was lately made known unto you. Touching my present occasions, I should be ashamed to importune your honor anymore, having been so much bound already, even beyond the possibility of my merit, but that I know your honorable nature delighteth in doing good, as many have cause to acknowledge that were wrapped in these late misfortunes. And I am assured that your honor hath not carried on the care of me hitherto, with such true and honorable kindness, but with a purpose to finish the work that you have begun. I would be bold therefore to lay my state open before your honor, & so recommend it to that favour that I have had so good proof of.
The sentence that was given against me, was as I conceived, to pay 10 thousand pound for a fine, to lose all my offices, to forfeit a portion or yearly payment I receive out of the patent for ordinance, and to suffer imprisonment during her majesty's pleasure. The offices I held were two parks, a walk in windsor forest, the stewardship of the manor of Sonning & the keeping of the house at windsor. all which together in fees & commodities may amount to 120 l pounds or 200 marks by the year. Out of the patent for ordinance I had a yearly payment of 350 l pounds. So as there is taken from me of my present revenue well near 500 l pounds a year. I held also iointly with Sir Henry killigrew a Tellers place in the exchequer, but by agreement between us I was not to meddle with it, nor to have any benefit of it during his time. Now the best things are gone from me my revenue by my land will not be full 700 l pounds a yere. So that
If it were in me to sell, two parts of the three sold would not pay the fine. But the truth is that I have no power to sell any piece of that I have in Berkshire, my state being only for life, and the inheritance being in my eldest son Henry, with remainders to my yonger son, & so to my brother. In yorkshire I have a parsonage leased out for 53 l pounds a year which is free for me to dispose of. And two other little things, the one let for 30 l pounds the other for 39 l pounds, both which I do payable to my father by the of his bond. So as I can not sell them without her majesty's leave. And these little things are all I have in the world to make any money of. How my fine will arise out of them I protest I do not know, nor consequently what offer or suit to make. I had more land free, but I have sold it, partly upon my first going into France, and partly since my coming over to pay my debts, so as in all I received 4000 l pounds for. In this extremity of mine, I can plead nothing but appeal to her majesty's free grace and mercy, setting all title of merit. But more then my state will yield can not be had. Therefore I apprehend nothing but misery and the continuance of her majesty's indignation, Seein I am not able to make satisfaction in this coarse that she hath been pleased to take with me. I humbly beseech your honor to afford me your advise & direction how I am to proceed; whether by supplication immediately to her majesty or by your honor to yeld to the sentence And whether I shall make any offer, or only lay down my means, and desire favour & mitigation in general. I beseech you also to grant leave to my wife to come to me, that I may confer & take some order with her about my poor estate, and likewis about suing & solliting for me, as her infirmity will permit her. And so wishing that my misfortunes had not made me servis utterly unworthy to be presented unto your honor, And yet withal presenting with an unfeigned heart all that is in my power, of any worth, I end with my prayers to god to render you in full measure the graces that I have found at your hands. from the Tower this 9 th of July 1601
Your honors most bounden & ready to serve you
Hen: Neville
15 July 1601
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_146_cecil_1601_07_15
Right honorable. As a man plunged in misery and destitute of all comfort and counsel I am bold again to have recourse unto your honorable favours, wherein all my hope rests, and most humbly to pray your honor to vouchsafe to let me know by this bearer, whether it will stand with your good liking that I do present another supplication unto the Lords before this progress begin, or what course I shall hold to give their L: ps: best satisfaction of my submission, and of my desire to conform my self to her majesty's pleasure in all things. I have represented my estate unto your honor particularly I am ready to make good what I say therein delivered. which I beseech your honor therefore even for gods sake to take compassion upon my poor wife and children, and let not my folly be their utter overthrow. I wish the whole punishment might light upon my self. for I only have deserved it, and they are innocent. The fine, as it is now imposed, is double more then my estate in my whole land (which is only for life) is worth. And if the rigor of Law had been prosecuted I could have forfeited no greater an estate then I had in it. My offices are all taken away. my moveables are of very small value. And those I had, as my plate and other things of best value I have been forced to sell since my trouble, to pay my debts and to discharge my friends, that stood bound for me, as becam an honest man I confess her majesty hath dealt very graciously and mercifully with me But I am persuaded, that if the meanness of my estate were made known unto her, she would extend her mercy further, and have the like measure and proportion of her grace and clemency towards me, that she hath done towards all other offenders, whom she hath been pleased to spare, but not to ruin. And by that means she shall make some use of her favour; whereas otherwise she looseth the benefit that is bestowed upon a man, that is undone, and made unable to do any duty or service that may deserve it. I dare not plead any thing in regard of my late service, and the charge I sustained in it Somewhat there is a peculiar consideration in my case; and I trust her majesty in her gracious & princely mind, will some time think of it, as a motive to her mercy. I am burden-some & confess unto your honor with my importunity. but the heaviness of my misery will plead some pardon for me. And I assure my self that the lord will recompense the commiseration that you have taken of my affliction. Therefore I do again humbly recommend my poor estate unto your honorable favour, and your happy estate unto the guard and mercy of the most powerful for the continuance of it. And so rest, Your ho: most bounden & humble to do you service
from the Tower the xv of July 1601
Hen: Neville
08 August 1601
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_147_cecil_1601_08_08
Right honorable. I understand by him that solicits my business, that I am blamed, that I have not in all this time made any offer, for the satisfaction of the fine imposed upon me. Therefore, being not willing to give or continue any cause of offence in any kind, I have made bold, to present another petition to the Lords of the Counsell, to this effect. That it would please their Lordships to consider of the particulars lately delivered them of my land, and to estimate what my estate for life may be worth in it, according to the common rate used between subjects, And to present the same in my name with all humbleness unto her majesty, together with my most humble supplication, that she will be pleased, either to take my lands into her hands, and satisfy her self out of the yearly profits thereof, allowing me only what it pleaseth her majesty of her princely goodness and compassion to afford for the necessary sustenance of my wife and my eight poor children. or that she will be so gracious, as to accept of that sum, wherunto they shall so judge my estate for life to be worth, my said necessa ry maintenance deducted, and to forbear me some time for the payment of it, as their Lordships shall think reasonable for the raysing of such a sum by the sale of land. This is all that I can offer. And this I trust her majesty, in the riches of that mercy which she hath extended towards all others, will be pleased to accept; And so lay the punnishment upon my self, which hath only deserved it, and not upon my poor children, which are innocent. And truly Sir I do so much condemn my self for the errors and offence I have committed and so truly grieve that I have incurred the indignation of so graci ous a sovereign, as I would willingly undorgo any other misery... that might light but upon my self, then to the loss of my life, to satisfy her displeasure for my offence, and to purchase her grace and favour to my children. And I do protest unto your Honor that unless I be so happy as to obtain some mitigation of that indignation which is kindled on high against me, I shall account my life but a burden unto me, and hope to be eased of it ere it be long. which whiles I enjoy it, I shall never cease to acknowledge her majesty's former favors, & my unhappines in losing it; And likewise your honors upholding goodness towards me, whereof I humbly beseech you to continue And so I leave to trouble your honor and remain for ever,
Your honors most bounden to pray for you during life
Henry Neville
23 August 1601
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_148_cecil_1601_08_23
Right honorable. A little before the queens remove from Greenewich, I did present unto the lords a particular of my estate, and withal a petition that it would please their Lordships to take knowledge thereof unto her majesty and to move her on my behalf, to be gracious unto me in the mitiga tion of my fine, considering the disability of my estate to bear that which was imposed. Since that, understanding it was expected that I should make some offer; I was bold by another petition to beseech their Lordships to consider of that particular, and to estimate what my estate for life might be worth in lands of that yearly value, & to make an offer thereof unto her majesty in my name. The reason which made that suit was, first because I presumed out of the clearness of mine own heart, that nothing could be, and out of the assurance I had of her majesty's Justice, that nothing would be, proved against me further then mispriesion. Secondly because the substance of my land was so conveyed and estated to my son, as I could neither forfeit it by any extremity but during my life, nor sell any such portion of it as would raise any great sum of money. I am forced upon the same reasons to drive upon the same offer, and to beseech your honor to favor it unto her majesty. And for a motive heerunto; That it would please you to take knowledge of the great charge I was at in my late service, whereof I do not boast, I was forced to sell land to the value of 4000, according to the particular which I delivered, and am ready to verify by matter of record. I know if it had not been my evil fortune to fall into this offence her majesty in her princely hounour would have re paired the decay of my estate which I had made in her service. And I trust she will vouchsafe to consider it in the moderating of my punishment, and give me as great cause to admire in her mercy as many other have had, whose offence in the rigorous eye of the law, was at the least as great as mine. my land in possession, as I have declared in my particular, amounteth not to above 700 pound by the year. out of which some allowance must neades have been for my maintenance, if her majesty had taken a course of rigor against me. So I suppose she would not have made of it clear above 500 pound. Which in five years amount, according to the years purchase, which the Attorny rates in such cases, my estate for life will not amount to above 3000 pounds. notwithstanding if it would please her majesty to be gracious to me, upon all the considerations before mentioned, as to reduce my fine to five thousand marks, and to accept the latter 3000 marks, by three hundred marks a year: I would hope by the help of my friends, to provide a thousand marks to be paid upon the delivery of my pardon, and I would yeld
Security in land, for the payment of two thousand marks more at September next, which I account as good as ready payment. Only I would make this humble suit withal, that whereas I am possessed to me and the heirs males of my body, and successible to the heirs males of my fathers body, with a reversion in the crowne of two tithes in yorkshire, of the yearly rent of 69 li, which are almost the only means I have to raise money by: it would please her majesty to give me leave to sell them towards the payment of my fine if this be not accepted, I must resolve to endure what will be laid upon me in any kind, with patience; for other means I have none to redeem my self with. And my mind is so prepared already for misery, as nothing can be much more welcom to me, then that which is the end of all misery. But if it please her majesty to be so good unto me as to accept of mine offer, it will be necessary that I know it in some time, that I may have some liberty to prepare the money I beseech your honor that you will take a favorable regard of me. And let me not, among so many examples of mercy, be made the only president of rigor. I know I have been much bound to your honor already, & to you only. I beseech beseech you to finish that you have so favorably begun, so as my obligation may not be devided to any other, for this is my desire, and my full purpose, either to be provided by your means, or liberty. And so renewing my prayers to you for your prosperity I humbly take my leave & rest
Your honors most bounden and ready to do you service
Henry Neville
20 December 1601
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_149_cecil_1601_12_20_after_parliament
Right honorable. I have forborne to solicit your honor in my business during the parliament, because I would avoid, in the middest of other great affairs, to be unseasonably troublesome. But now the parliament is at an end, I trust it will not be offensive, if I renew my former humble suit; that it would please your honor to be a means to bring my troubles to some tolerable end; & such as may not utterly disable my self and my posterity, from doing any service, either to the state in publik, or to your honor in particular, to whom I am so much bound. I have made known unto your honor and the rest of my lords, how small my estate is; not exceeding in yearly revenue 700 li. And how little of that I have free to dispose of. And thereupon I have besought their favors & your honors unto her majesty; that she would be pleased to accept 2000 marks in some short time (which is as much as my land will yield that I have power to sell) and to take 2000 m more by 200 a year. which being deducted out of the remainder of my revenue, there will be but little left me above 350 a year, to sustain my self, my wife and eight children, which will not be much above 40 a piece one with another. Notwithstanding if this be thought to much, & that no more like will be left, I beseech your honor to make any end of it, as you shall think fit, when I have laid open before you what I am able to bear. Only I desire that so much may be left me, as may suffice to afford necessary food & raiment to my wife & children: of whose misery I am much more sensible & tender then of mine own. Whatsoever your honor shall conclude of me or for me, I will stand to, so as that course of fine or further payment be not imposed upon me above 2000 marks more out of my revenue. And to that end put my self & my whole state into your honors hands; beseeching you to make an end at length of these my unfortunate troubles, and to free me from this captivity. God I trust will reward so charitable a work: and my self and my posterity, will be ever ready to acknowledge it with perpetual obligation & service. And hoping to receive some comfort shortly by your honorable means, I humbly take my leave and rest,
Your honors most bounden and devoted to serve you
Henry Neville
06 January 1602
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_150_cecil_1602_01_06
Right Honorable, I requested my good friend and kinsman mr Saville, to acquaint your honor with another offer which I meant to make unto her majesty. Seeing that I perceived that my former was not like to be accepted. And having understood from him, that your honor did not dislike of it, I have been bold to make it, and some other of my Lords, who have thought fit that my wife should put up a petition to her majesty to the same effect. which I purpose she shall do upon sunday next, if it please your honor. I humbly beseech your honor therefore, without whose direction or approbation I purposs to do nothing, to vouchsafe to let my wife, or him that ordinarily solliicites my business, understand your pleasure in it, that it would please you to further & favor it unto her majesty, as opportunity shall be The longer I live here, the more Unable I shall be to give her majesty any Satisfaction. for it is a double & a great charge, and I find my state to go to wrack, & to be greatly decayd. Besids that no man will pay me any thing that is due unto me, but every man is ready both to detain & to take from me that which is mine in so much as I have been forced to supply my necessities, with the sale of my plate, horse & cattle, & then of my very houshold stuff & bedding. And if my imprisonment continue, I can not but expect the uttermost of misery. Which if it might only extend to my self, though it were as great as the most rigorous censor would think me worthy of, I would bear it with silenc. But I confess that the calamity of those innocents that are made miserable by my occasion, doth greatly wound me deepely. In whose favour, if your honor shall vouchsafe to employ your power & credit which you hold with her majesty, I assure my self you will not suffer it to want a reward. I do therefore humbly recommend their estate, which is deerer to me then mine own, unto your ho: compassion, & so most humbly take my leave and rest,
Your honors most bound & ready to do you service
Henry Neville
The 6 of January 1601
03 February 1602
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_105
Right honorable. As I do acknowledge her Majesty. late gracious resolution touching my cause, to be a fruit of your honor 's. favor especially, so am I emboldened thereby to address my self again unto your honor. and to beseech you, now that the matter is referred by her Majesty unto the Lords, that it would please you to continue the same favor unto the end, and to be a means, that such a portion of my poor revenue may be left me, as may enable me to nourish and bring by my eldest son (at the least) in such sort, as he may be capable to do his prince & country, and your honor. in particular, some service hereafter. he is now at the university, and gives me good hope of his well doing, if I be able to continue him there. which depends altogether upon the course that is taken with me, in that levying of my fine. As this is the respect that doth nearest touch me, in the apprehension & sense of my future poverty, (being otherwise in respect of my self a fit and almost voluntary subject of misery, seeing I am thus fallen into her Majesty. indignation) so I am bold to use it as a principal motive to your honor. to stir up your compassion. for seeing I may account my self a man in some sort dead to this world, I have nothing left to wish or hope, but that my house and fortune may revive in him. and therein, as in my greatest good upon earth, I do most humbly entreat your favorable regard. I do also crave leave to give your honor. to understand hereby, that my L. Treasurer sent a gentleman lately unto me, to request me, That whereas I had heretofore informed him, that I could not be suffered to enjoy the import of xxx ton of wine in france, which had been allowed to all former ambassadors, I should write so much to him in a letter in french, & signify particularly how they had proceeded with me about it. which I have done accordingly, and sent him my letter yesterday to that purpose. I thought it my duty to acquaint your honor. with it, as willing to give account unto your honor. of all my actions, & of my thoughts to, if it were possible. And so again recommending my poor fortune unto your honrs. favor, I humble kiss your hands, and rest evermore, Henry Neville The right edge of the page is worn and damaged, which is why a few details are uncertain.
26 February 1602
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_095
Court. Right honorable. I have made bold, according to your honor 's. permission, to write unto my wife a word or two to comfort her, which I desire if it so please your honor., that I Packer may carry, and that it would please your honor. to add some comfortable message unto her by him. for otherwise I fear the apprehension of it, may work some sudden & dangerous effect in her, being subject as she is, to so violent a passion of the heart. it may please you also to direct me what I shall do with my servants that be at Paris & whether I shall not discharge them. I have set down in writing the substance of all that I can call to mind to have understood touching this late wicked practice; I do but stay the writing it out again & then mean to send it unto your honor & to my lord Admiral, to whose compassion next gods mercy and her Majesty. I do most humbly recommend my distressed estate & my poor wife and children & so rest Your honor 's. most dutiful and bounden. Henry Neville
11 March 1602
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_106
To the right honorable Sir. Robert Cecyll knight Principal Secretary to her Majesty. at ye Court. Right honorable, In perusing the petitions whch I have heretofore delivered unto the Lords, contayning my two several offers for her Mates satisfaccõn, I find that my first offer was 4000li, whereof one thousand marks to be paid upon the sealing & delivery of my pardon, & security to be given in land for 2000 marks more within six weeks (so as her Majesty would be pleased to permit me to sell two tithes I have in Yorkshire of the rent of 69li, whereof she is in remainder) & the other 2000li by 200li a year. But understanding by your honor & my Lord Treasurer, that you thought my offer to mean to be made known to her Majesty, & withal considering that peradventure her Majesty would make some difficulty to grant me her remainder of those tithes, & that except she granted it, I had not about 60li land free to dispose of, which was not sufficient to raise any such sum of money by, I thought good to enlarge & alter my offer to 5000li, whereof 1000li to be paid upon the delivery of my pardon, & 4000li more by any such yearly payment arising out of my living as it should please her Majesty to appoynt. So as your honor such that my offer of 2000li was but condicõnall if it would please her Majesty to grant me the remainder of those tithes, & without that condition I am utterly unable to perform any such thing. Therefore I humbly beseech your honor to be a means that my second offer may be accepted, being reduced to this certainty, viz 1000li upon the sealing & deliuery of my pardon, & 1000 marks a year (if it be not possible to bring it down to 500li a year) till the other 4000li be paid. This is all that having advised thoroughly of my estate I find my self able to doe, & yet I shall leave scarce 50li a year to maintain my self & my wife & my eight children, which (I am persuaded) her Majesty her self, if she may understand it, will think little enough. I do not see (under favor) but this my offer is more for her Mates benefit, & less for mine then the rigour of the law, according as your honor did deliver it yesterday. For that could but arise of the profit of my land yearly, & were altogether casual, and to depend upon my life; whereas I offer a great sum presently, & afterwards a certain yearly payment equalling my living within less then 50li. And if I should be kept in prison, my charges there according to the ordinary allowance would amount to above 150li by the year, So about 100li less would come that way yearly to her Mates coffers, then by my offer. I beseech your honor to consider favourably of it, & seeing mercy is proposed & intended to me, lett it be such as both I & mine will not be offensive to her Majesty, or any way exasperate her, because she hath been pleased to give better conditions to some other of greater state then mine, who were in the eye of law as great offenders as my self, & from whom she toke nothing els but their bare fine. I am bold, because your honor did intimate that unless somewhat were done now, it were in vain to sollicite or trouble you in it hereafter, to write thus plainly & largely, humbly beseeching you to construe it with favor, & to yield me that comfort that without any prejudice to your self you find you may doe. For I am not so unreasonable to press any more, but will rather resolve to subject my self with patience to any misery that god hath appointed for me. And so craving pardon of this long letter, & that I write not with mine own hand, because of the indisposition both of mine head & eyes, I humbly take my leave, & beseech god to dispose both her Majesty heart, & the honorable lords, to whom she hath cõmitted my cause to make some favorable conclusion for me. From the Tower the xith of March. 1601. Upon the question that your honor moued to me yesterday, I have pervsed my papers, & find that the exchange of a French Crowne came to three half pence, which in fifty thousand Crowns will come to 312ti 10s. I remember that Mr de Rosny offered me, that the money which I receaued should have been paid at Dieppe, which courtesy I think he will be as well content to yield now, & which is no more then he doth to the State. This course I take to be the least chargeable to her Majesty, besides the respect of bringing in so much coin into the Realm. Your honors most humble & bounden to serve you Henry Neville
20 March 1602
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_151_cecil_1602_03_20
Right honorable. Having received a peremptory answer from my Lord Treasurer, that there was no hope for me that her majesty would accept 1000 m in hand & the other 4000 marks by 1000 marks a year I have submitted my self to that which was last proposed, wherein I was before your honors: namely to pay 2000 li in some short time, and the 3000 remayning by a thousand marks a year. I have only made this suit unto my lords that either land may be accepted for the whole 2000 li which is to be paid in hand, according to such course and rates as the landes & other that were fined did deliver their land; or els that I might pay but 1000 marks in money, and deliver land for the 2000 marks remaining: And that my yearly paymentes, which my Lord Treasurer offered should not begin till mid summer Term come twelvemonth, might be put of to begin at the michaelmas Term after. withal I prayed his Lordship to move her majesty for the obtaining of those two requestes: which I mentioned in my former letters, to the end that although I were not so happy as to obtain it now, yet it might be a good induction to the mitigation of my fine hereafter. His Lordship did not dislike of my offers, but promised to move her majesty in them very shortly. my humble suit unto your honor: is that it will please you likewise to approve of them, and to favor them unto her majesty; letting her know the poor state which I shall be left to sustain my wife & children, that she may see my willingness to redeem my offence & her indignation with any conditions, and may be the rather moved to enlarge her mercy towards me, if not in the matter of my fine, at the least in some other point, wherem I may be relived without any hinderance to her majesty. my only hope of good in any kind is from your honor: which shall not be undeserved on my part, if sincere affection duty and service may merit such a favor. And what is wanting in my part, god I trust will supply, to whom I will daily pray for Your honors continuance in all perfect happiness. From the Tower the xxth of March 1601
Your honors most bounden to serve you
Henry Neville
03 April 1602
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_152_cecil_1602_04_03
Right honorable. It pleased my L. Treasurer to let me understand that her majesty had accepted of my offer of the same in such sort as I had made it, viz to pay 1000 marks in money upon the delivery of my pardon, and to deliver land for 2000 marks more, and to pay the 3000 pound remaining by a thousand marks a year. Where upon I have caused my counsail to attend mr Attorney, and have satisfied my lord Treasurer & him about all points to be performed on my part, saving only about the assurance for the yearly payment of the three thousand marks, I offering mine own recognisances for the several paiments, & my lord requiring bonds with sureties. Now because it is an impossible thing for me to procure my friends to entangle their estates for me in bonds to the queen, considering that all men know that my state is utterly overthrown both in act & in hope, and that being so iniured to the queen, who will be served before all men els, there is no means left me to secure them: I have been an earnest suter to my lord to accept mine own recognisances, as he did in like case of my lord Sandes: His answer is, that he will not do it of him self alone: But if I would move the rest of the lords that were commissioners he will be, as I should find him, as forward as any man. I have therefore made bold to send an humble petition to the lords to that effect: & have thought it fit to acquaint your honor particularly with it, and to beseech you to show me your good favour in it as you have done in all the rest: that I so may hope to have an end of my misery: which I do the rather and more instantly desire at this time, in respect of my poor wife, whose state I do much fear, as being overcharged with grief & sorrow, with my troubles, with the late loss of one of her children, and the likelihood to lose an other. These afflictions coming one upon anothers I doubt will much indaunger her weak body & mind, unless it may please you to procure her some comfort in some other kind. I beseech your honor to take the more compassion upon us: And so with my daily prayers to god for your honors preservation I humbly take my leave. this 3 of April 1602
Your honors most bound and willing to do you all service
Henry Neville
18 April 1602
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_109
Right honorable. it may please you to understand, that I have proceeded with Mr. Attorney to the draught of my pardon, and of the grant of the reversion of the two tithes in yorkshire, which it hath pleased her Majesty. to yield to bestow upon me to enable me to pay my fine. The conveyance is likewise ready of the land I make over for the 2000 marks. And upon the first or second day of the Term, I shall be ready to parfait all the assurance on my part. There is only this little question remaining about the assurance for the yearly payments; That whereas my lord Treasurer required bonds of me with sureties, I finding that my friends are willinger to engage their land for me then their bonds, have offered of mine own and my friends, land of the yearly rent of about six score pounds, which I have besought my lord to accept for 2000li of the three. And because I found that his lordship·p made difficulty to take it for so much, I have since offered it for eighteen hundred pound & to put in sufficient sureties for the rest. it seems my lord means to acquaint the rest of the Commissioners with my offer before he determine of it which if he do, I humbly beseech your honor. to vouchsafe me your favor in it. I protest by the faith of a christian, that I do it not with any meaning to let the land fall into the queen 's hands (for there were small honnesty for me to deal so with my friend) but only to avoid the necessity of providing sureties for so great sums, which I find to be so hard a matter, and which though I should obtain it at my friends hands would infinitely entangle the poor remnant of my estate, with counterassurances to them. And to make it appear that this is the only respect I have in it, if your honor 's. shall not think fit to accept this land, for so much as I tender it for, I beseech you to take it for what it pleases you. for so yet there will be the less remaining to provide sureties for. And it can not be denied but land is better assurance then any mans bond. This point once concluded, there is no stay on my part, but that all may be finished in 4 days. So as I may (I hope) be bold to beseech the lords and your honor. especially, to prefer my pardon & the grant of the reversion unto her Majesty. signature, to remain in your honor 's. hands till all be perfected on my part. This bearer hath them with him engrossed & signed by Mr. Attorney as the use is. Next god, my hope for the finishing of my troubles, rests chiefly in your honor. I humbly beseech you to add this last hand, as it were, to the rest of your favors, and to deliver me speedyly out of this long captivity. And I shall continue my prayers to god for your preservation in all trüe happiness. From the Tower the 18 of April 1602 Your honor 's. most bounden & ready to serve you. Henry Neville
19 May 1602
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_153_cecil_1602_05_19
Right honorable. I find by the proceeding about my pardon hitherto that it is like to stick long in some remembrance thereof, unless it please your honor and the rest of my lords the commissioners, to join in the recommendation of it unto her majesty. I do therefore most humbly beseech your honor, as I intend to beseech others of my lords likewise, to add that favor unto all your former goodness towards me. For I am utterly unable to bear the charge of this place; where is more above, then all I have left me to maintain my whole family. And besides, my sureties which with much difficulty I have procured, will be gone out of town as soon as the Term is ended. So as if I be not dispatched this Term, God knowes when I shall get them together again. I have already past over land to my Lord Treasurer & mr Chauncellor for the 2000 marks & I am ready to pay the other 1000 marks upon the delivery of my pardon, & to put in sureties for the 3000 pounds remaining, and to perform whatsoever els is decreed by the lords. There remains no more, but that it may please your honors to procure my pardon which I have compounded for. And in this case, as in all other, my principal refuge (next god) is unto your honor: persuading my self that where you can, & will, do me most good of all men. my state is wholly decayed & my health of late much impaired There is little left but my life: which if it please you to save me: I am willing to preserve: chiefly to strive to wear out this blemish & blot that lieth now upon me in the end; And next, to approve my duty & thankfulness unto your honor And to this end, I crave that it would please you to deliver me & free me: & let the performance be eternally required of me if I fail. I can say no more; and this being the scope of any credit given unto me. I will here therefore conclude, and recommend your honor to the grace of god, and my poor distressed fortune unto your favorable regard, and rest evermore
Your honors most bounden to serve you
Henry Neville
this 19 of May 1602
23 May 1602
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_154_cecil_1602_05_23
Right honorable. I have thought good by a petition unto the lords, to renew the suit & offer which I made lately by my private letters unto your honor, and which it pleased you so honorably & favorably to move & recommend on my behalf unto my lord Keper & my lord Treasorer, at your last meeting in London. I have only altered this one point. That in stead of Hallowtide which I appointed for the payment of the 2000 marks, I have now named six weeks after the sealing of my pardon, because no man will credit me or contract with me, till that be done And it will require some time, after it be done, to provide such a sum of money. I humbly beseech your honor to favour me in the conclusion of my trouble, as you have done in the whole course of it; assuring your self that you have already made me so much your servant, that me soe, confessing that I owe more unto you, then to all the world besides, and will be ready to testify it in all occasions, even to the spending of my blood, if need so require. I will urge nothing that your honor thinks not convenient, but refer all to your good pleasure & favour, and will do whatsoever your honor shall advise and assist me. And so most humbly presenting my duty & service unto your honor I rest therein.
Your honors most bounden to serve you
Henry Neville
31 July 1602
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_110
Right honorable your favor and goodness towards me, hath so many ways showed it self during my troubles, as I know not whether hath been greater, your honor 's kindness or my misfortune. And therefore howsoever my evil destiny hath made me hitherto incapable of the good you intended me, and so peradventure may do hereafter, yet I vow (and that from my soul) to hold a perpetual remembrance of your honorable dealing with me, and dedicate whatsoever remains in me unto your service before all the world, my sovereign only excepted. for I do profess that your real and noble kindness, hath wrought extraordinarily upon my mind, and hath even enthralled my heart unto you: and the rather, because I know there wanted not suggestions to the contrary, if your nature had not been so honorable to lay hold of them: in which respect my obligation is made so much the greater. I speak not this by way of insinuation to any further suit for whatsoever fortune is decreed me, this shall be ever my mind. And god, that is witness with what affection I speak it, will give me strength I trust to persist in it yet can I not but desire, that your honor will be pleased to continue your mediation for me, and pray, that god will incline her majesty heart to harken unto it. for me thinks my life might be better spent, even for her service, then in this place & in this sort. And if there be no other means to wipe away this blot wherewith I am soiled, yet it is possible, that if I were at liberty, I might shed so much of my blood, in some place where she hath occasion to use men, as might serve for a laver for the crime, which hath made me so ugly in her eye. The state I stand in now is this her majesty is possest already of land of some of my friends, to the value of 2000 marks. and I am ready to pay her 1000 marks more upon my delivery according to the composition, and to put in security to pay the rest by 1000 marks a year. I have already sold land both for the first thousand marks, and for a good part of the residue as m. Lieutenant can witness, who took the fine of me & my wife for it, by a dedimus potestatem. So as I have not only sold mine own land, but made over my friends, to satisfy her majesty, presuming that so solemn an agreement, would have been as sure for me, as for other in the like kind now till I have my pardon, I can neither give my friends any recompense, for the land which they have made over for me, nor receive money for the land I have sold as mine own. Into such extremities hath my bad fortune brought me. I know your honor will pity me. Therefore I shall need to say no more. but will here conclude with my prayers to god for your honor 's preservation, & rest evermore The 31st of Your honor 's most bounden July 1602 to serve you. Henry Neville
07 January 1603
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_155_cecil_1603_01_07
Right Honorable, I have understood both by mine uncle killi grew, & by mr lieutenant, how honorably & affectionately you have dealt with her majesty for my liberty. wherefore I profess I do no less rejoice, then I should do in my deliverance it self, if it were effected. For as mine own heart bears wttnes, that I never carried other then a dutiful & respective mind towards your honour, so am I glad above measure to find, that nether mine own error I have committed, nor the evil suggestions of malignant spirits, apt & ready to make the worst interpretation of them, have been able to alter your honours constant & favorable disposition towards me. my obligation therefore is exceeding great, and beyond my ability to acknowledge it sufficiently; much more am I unable to discharge & acquit it. But I do so much detest ingratitude (the foulest of all vices) that I shall ever hold, not only my poor fortune, but my life well spent to give your honour any testimony of my thankfulness. And with this protestation (which I will maintain, & seal with my blood, if occasion require it) I will continue, and pray to god in the mean time to supply with his mercies & favours, the defects of my ability. And so humbly kiss your honors hands & remain
The 7 th of January
Your honors most bounden to do you service
Henry Neville
16 February 1604
Henry Neville to Ralph Winwood
ID: letter_082
SIR, London, 16th Feb. 1603.
SOON after I had written unto you from my own house at shellingford, I removed to my other house, and within a few days after one of my servants fell sick of the plague and died, and two other were sick of it, but recovered. By this evil accident I was driven to forsake my house, and to disperse my family, and my self made unfit for any company, and especially for the court, and this was the cause why I received not your second letter till it was almost Christmas, and which made me also so backward to answer it, which I pray you excuse. Now having received a third letter from you by your Servant moor, I cannot but let you know how thankfully I take your kind remembrance of me, and how willing I would be to make it appear more than in words, if in your absence you would make any use of me. I know you have many friends of whose affection you may be assured, but none more desirous to approve his love than I am; therefore if you will have me think you esteem it, I pray you use it, and use it freely.
To requite your advertisements with others of like worth, I cannot; and I know your other friends which know more then I, will not leave you ignorant of such things as pass here. For as much as concerns my self, I acknowledge the admonition you give in the end of your letter to be very good; and I hold it the duty of every honest man to dedicate his life to those ends, more then to bis private contentment. But withal I think it may satisfy any man's conscience, that he shunns not service imposed; and I hold no man bound to seek imployments. Those of honor I know are too high for me; and if I did not know it, yet others do. To the same I have had, or meaner in that kind, I know you would not advice me: yet those I have not refused. To live in court, where non proficere is deficere, without any office, business or regard, were the next degree to idleness: what remains for me to do then, but which I do? That is, to attend the care of my private state and family, wherewith I only stand charged, and to leave the care of public affairs, unto those to whom they are committed. I know your wish proceeds of much good will to me; and I concurr willingly to wish the same, if they will think me worthy in whose power it is. And in both or any that shall befall me, I will ever desire you to esteem me
your entirely affectionated friend, HENRY NEVILLE.
19 August 1604
Henry Neville to Ralph Winwood
ID: letter_083
SIR, London, 19th August 1604.
YOU have very fully and very kindly satisfied my request touching the treaties between France and Scotland, and have therein done me a very great pleasure. I would you would employ me in any thing here, wherein I might requite you; for as for that which you recommended me in your last, I cannot learn that there is any cause of doubt, or need to use any friend in it: but I will be both open-eyed and ear'd from time to time, to discover and prevent any inconveniency that may grow unto you that way, to the best of my power.
We are now full of jollity, giving entertainment to the constable; who (as I hear) hath neither in pomp nor sufficiency answered the expectation we have conceived of him. The peace is to be ratified by the King upon Sunday next, and his oath taken; and that day the King intends to feast him, and the next day to dismiss him, and to return to his interrupted progress, which he much affects. My Lord Cecyll in the mean time intends a journey to the hath, and I hope will take a lodging at my house the first night, and second thereby a late favor he did me to christen my son. Our court affairs are as they were, and so are like to continue. We speak of my Lord of hertford's going into Spain to take the King's oath, and that Sir william Cecyll shall accompany him to remain there. For the French employment, if Sir thomas parry be recalled, (as they say he labors to be) they talk of Sir john hollis or Sir edwin sandys; the former peradventure may shun it, but the latter I am sure will not.
The employment with the Archduke I think will fall upon Sir thomas edmunds, but I know not yet who shall be sent to take his oath. We say the Spanish ambassadors have taken up many jewels here, (we suppose to bestow upon our grandees; so not to leave any advantage to the French, who began that angling fashion unto them) with the King's privity and all men's wonder. All our discourse and expectation is now, what advantage the states will make of the taking of Sluce, and how they will prosecute it; whereof I would be glad at your leisure to understand your opinion. And so commending my self very kindly to you and mrs. Winwood, to whom I wish as much happiness when the hour comes, as my wise I thank God had of late, I commit you, and all your affairs there, to the Grace and favor of God.
Your very assured friend to my best power, HENRY NEVILLE.
01 November 1604
Henry Neville to Ralph Winwood
ID: letter_084
SIR, London, 1st Nov. 1604.
THOUGH in much pain of the gout (which with shame I do now acknowledge ,) I could not dismiss this Messenger, without a line or two of salutations. What is done in your business with my Lord of cranbourne your man will inform you; which tho'it be not so much as I wished and as had been sit, yet I was the gladder of, because it was accompanied with so many good words and professions towards you; which I hope he will perform, because I know you will ever deserve them. I pray now be not discouraged by the small success you have found in this, from employing me in your other occasions; it may be I shall be more fortunate in some other, or howsoever, you shall ever find my affections ready, and you shall do me a pleasure to use it.
We are now entered into the conference of this great business of the union; but I have not yet been present at any meeting, therefore I will reserve my writing till I be able to make some more judgment of it. In the mean time I pray you inform your self as conveniently as you may, in what form those several provinces of several soveraignties did join in the assembly of the states General, after they were united under one Prince; and how matters were determined in their General assemblies to bind all the provinces in charles the fifth's time, and three or four descents before him. Likewise I pray you take information, what customs the low country men paid in Spain, or the spaniards there, after they were united; whether as strangers, or as natural born in the country, or in any mixt kind. These be things which we may happily have cause to know and to make use of; and if it please you to help me with your knowledge in them, you shall add no small measure to your former kindness.
I hear lately of some muttering, as if Sir thomas smith would put over his place to jones. Ashby also is thought to grow weary, or unfit for the place. I do not see how any of these alterations can prejudice you, considering the priority you have; but I will talk with Sir thomas bodely, and if there be cause, we will both join our endeavours to prevent any wrong that may grow thereby unto you. So longing to hear that mrs. Winwood has made you a glad father, with that and all other my best wish unto you both, I take my leave,
from my bed at the star-chamber.
Your assured friend to my best power, HENRY NEVILLE.
08 December 1604
Henry Neville to Ralph Winwood
ID: letter_085
SIR, London, 8th Dec. 1604.
WE have at length concluded the conference about the union, to his Majesty's very good satisfaction, as he witnessed by the speech he made unto us, when we presented him the instrument under our scales. The points which we agreed upon are shortly these: that all hostile laws made between either kingdom, shall be abolished, that the border laws and customs shall be likewise abollished, and justice ministred hereafter according to the ordinary laws of each kingdom. That there be free intercourse of trade between the kingdoms without paying any customs for all commodities, (except sheep, wool, wool-fells, cattle, hides, and leather, which are wholly prohibited) so as there be sufficient caution given, not to transport any of the said commodities into any foreign parts out of the kingdom. That it shall be lawful for the subjects of the one kingdom to bring into the other any foreign commodities, paying the custom used in that kingdom where they arrive. But because it appears that the Scottish men have a privilege in France, whereby they are exempted from paying of the custom that the English and other foreigners pay upon transportation, it is therefore agreed, that whatsoever they pay less then we there, they shall pay so much more then we here for French commodities, except such as are brought out of the river of bourdeaux, where it appears that our privilege is as great as theirs. That it shall be lawful for the subjects of either kingdom, to carry out of the other, the natural commodities thereof, paying the ordinary custom; but so, as the Scottish men trade not with any of our commodities, to any place where our companies are established, in any other sort then the common subject of England may do which hath no privilege. That it shall be lawful for either nation to freight the ships of the other. That either nation shall be enabled to be free of any company or corporation of the other, serving for it, or attaining it by purchase, in such sort as those of the same nation do, where the company or corporation is. That it shall be declared by parliament, that the law already is, (for so the judges have declared it) that all the subjects of either kingdom, born since Queen Elizabeth's death, are naturalized in the other to all intents and purposes; and for those born before, it is agreed that they shall be naturalized to all purposes, and enabled to all capacities, each in the other, except to have voice and seance in parliament, and to bear any office of the crown, or judicature: which three points we have thought good to reserve till the union be made perfect in other things, which could not be done at this time. The last article begat more debate and contestation then all the rest, as that which touched the freehold of the principal of both sides, and imported them most in their particular, the one side to seek, the other to exclude. But in the end the King was won to our side, and so it was concluded in this form.
This is the substance of the acts of this conference, which I am forced to send you in this short and imperfect kind, because copies are utterly forbidden till the parliament, and an oath hath been taken of the clerks of both sides to that purpose. The Scottish men have given us very good satisfaction during this conference, as well for their sufficiency, as their modest and respective carriage, which hath been very well answered on our part, as far as the matter would permit. Among others, the Lord Secretary of Scotland hath gotten much reputation.
We have been somewhat troubled of late about a seizure made at Rouen of our English cloth to a great value, and the King's peremptory answer made to the Ambassador, when he dealt with him in it: but upon a late conference with monsieur de beaumont, there is some hope given of a mitigation of that rigour.
It is reported commonly that our merchants are ill used in Spain by the inquisition; and besides, that the trade proves nothing so beneficial as was expected; partly by reason that the merchants there are become poor by these wars, and not able to buy but upon days, and many of those that have been trusted have play'd bankrupts, insomuch, as some of ours have brought back their commodities, rather then they would sell upon credit; and partly, by reason, that in this time of long restraint of trade, they have been forced to betake themselves to the making of cloth there, and do make it now in that quantity, as they care not much for ours, which was wont to be our chiefest trade thither. And as for corn, the French, both by reason of their nearness and abundance will ever furnish them better cheap then we can. So as there appears little hope of any fruit of our peace in that regard; which joined with some other considerations of state that have reference to your affairs there, begins to cool that ardent affection which carried us so strongly to that treaty, and begets some discourses, (even amongst our greatest governors) that this will be but a short peace.
And for a proof that we intend not to abandon your business, I understand very lately that there is a regiment of Scottish men to be levied shortly for the states service under the charge of the Lord burleigh; and I find that they which complain here, that the states impeach their trade and passage to the Archduke's countrys, have but cold answers, and receive sometimes a check for their forwardness that way, as if it proceeded of no good affection. And this being as much as I think worthy your knowledge at this time, I will here conclude with my best wish unto you and mrs. Winwood, and remain evermore
your very assured friend to be disposed of, HENRY NEVILLE.
17 January 1605
Henry Neville to Thomas Windebank
ID: letter_129
Sir. I am much bound to my lord of Cramborn for his favorable remembrance of me in mine absence, and to you, for your so willing and careful undertaking, that which he committed to you. I have considered of the draught of the warrant, and to my understanding, I find it very sufficient. There past the like for my E. of Rutland & other, at the kings first cõming, with which if it please you to compare it, you shall be resolved if you doubt of any thing. for the date of my conveyance to my lord Treasurer & the rest, I assure you I know it not. for Mr. Attorney never would deliver me any counterpart, saying it was not needful. for my part I think it not necessary to mention it in the warrant, but that it will be sufficient, if those words be all left out which I have underlined. In the other book which is engrossed & signed by Mr. Attorney, there needs no alteration as I remember, but of Rex for Regina in the first word, and in one other place where it calls king Edward præcharissimus frater noster, and must now be made præchar: consanguineus noster. which is an alteration but of one word. But if it please you to give it a reading over, you will best discern what alterations are needful. I am necessarily to stay here till monday for the hearing of a cause referred unto me by order of the chancery: which done, I will hasten up presently. In the mean time I commend my business unto that love of yours which hath never failed me, and will be your debtor for all, till I may have some opportunity to shew my self thankful. And so with my wife's kind commendations unto you & mine own, I take my leave & remain your very assured friend ever to be disposed of. from Pillingbeare the 17th of January 1604 Henry Neville
21 June 1605
Henry Neville to Ralph Winwood
ID: letter_087
SIR, 21th June 1605.
I wrote so lately unto you as I have not much to add now, yet I would not omit this opportunity to acknowledge the receipt of your two letters of the fourth of may and the third of June, that you may know they be come safe to my hands. Concerning the disorder in wales, whereof I made mention in my last, it seems the lords have taken some apprehension of it, and have sent down my Lord of worcester, who is potent in those parts, to settle and quiet all things there.
The King sent for all the judges lately, and gave them a very straight charge to be diligent and severe in their circuits against recusants, and to execute the laws in that behalf made, and namely those which concern their banishing or confining. Yet it is generally feared that there will be none of the priests executed, without which I doubt all the other provision will be fruitless, for they are the root and fountain of all the mischief. It seems the rule is here forgotten, d'estre ou tout bon ou tout mauvais, and that this via di mezzo is ever the worst. For my part I am persuaded they are irrecoverable, and will never be satisfied, nor made sure to the state, unless they may have their whole desire at the full. And howsoever they pretend now to seek only impunity, yet that obtained, assuredly they will not rest there, till they have obtained a further liberty: therefore if we mean not to grant all, we were as good deny all, and put them to an issue betimes, either to obey or not, lest it break out alieniore tempore when they be more prepared, and we peradventure entangled in some other business. But I am out of my proper orb when I enter into state matters; I will therefore leave these considerations to those to whom they appertain, and think of my husbandry in the country, which puts me often in mind of that beatitude which horace so much commends. Yet I do not so wean my self from these thoughts, but I will be always glad of your letters, and to understand by them how the world goeth with you there; for I concur with you, that he must be very senseless, that doth not discern how necessary your conversation there is for our estate. I will hold you no longer at this time, but conclude, wishing you all happiness and contentment in your employment, and my self often with you; and so I remain ever more
your assured friend to be disposed of, HENRY NEVILLE.
01 January 1606
Henry Neville to Richard Beaumont
ID: letter_beaumont_1606
Noble Sir, I am very sorry that it lies not in my power to send you half a buck; my keepers tell me that there is none in my walk; sure I am that I have not seen a pasty of venison of this year. I did adventure to send you the side of a stag which I thought might serve your turn as well if it came sweet to you, which the heat of the weather made me fearful of. But my cooke and keeper were confident, and I caused them to take the best order for the cool conveyance of it. My lawyer failed in the instructions I gave him about the deed of South cave. My purpose was to give you power to sell it outright, which I intreat you still to do if you can meet with any price or purchaser that you shall think fit; I will avow any act herein done by you. Thus, with many excuses for my boldness in thus far troubling you and many thanks for your care of it, I end, assuring you that none living doth more earnestly desire the recovery and continuance of your health then Your faithful friend, kinsman, and servant, Hen: Neville Billingbeare, Wednesday night. Address, To my honorable friend and kinsman, Sir Richard Beaumont, knight, at London.
11 March 1606
Henry Neville to Ralph Winwood
ID: letter_088
SIR, 11th march 1605.
I have been the longer silent, because I was desirous before I wrote to penetrate as far as I could into this mystery of your recall from your imploysent, which was commonly spoken of. For a time I did believe (for so it was directly told me) that it had proceeded from your desire; at which I must confess I was somewhat amazed, considering what you left there, and what you were like to find here. But not satisfied with common reports, I adventured to ask Mr. Levinus of it, who after some tergiversations, told me at length, that he thought that it proceeded not so much, either of your desire to leave the place, or of my lords to call you home, as of the instance of a third person who much laboured it. This I interpreted of some that might have a hope to succeed you in it, but when I understood that the offer had been made unto Mr. Fant, and that not upon his own seeking but out of penury rather or want of another, I resolved that I made not a right construction of it. Whilst I was in these doubts, and casting with my self how to expound this riddle, I chanced to meet with Sir thomas smith in westminster-hall in good leisure, and fell into some speech with him about it: but no sooner had I named it, but he entered presently into a passionate complaint of the wrong you had done him, first by accepting the clerkship of the council when he had opened his purpose unto you of selling his place, whereby he was disappointed of that intended benefit; and since by interposing your self between any other and the place, that otherwise might be drawn into it, upon a pretence of wrong to you, if any man should step before you: so as he concluded he was locked up in the place, and forced to be a drug in it, only to preserve it for you, who in the mean time enjoyed a place of honor and profit. And in conclusion he told me, he had been a suiter, and so meant to continue, that either you might come home and take part of the pains that belong to the place, or else that he might be suffered to make away his place and see notwithstanding your opposition, which he said you had no reason in truth to complain of, because it was but an exchange, and you were never a whit cast back by it. By this discourse I found who it was that labor'd your return, whereof I thought sit to give you knowledge, but with this hope and assurance, that you will so use it, as I may receive no blame or imputation for my advertisement.
For the matter it self I cannot but impart unto you together with mine own, the opinion of all that love you, namely that you do your self an irreparable wrong, if you quit your place there for any thing you can expect here. For the place here, it is that which they are all extreamly weary of that are in it; the attendance is more exacted than ever, and the profit less then ever. For other rewards, the state was never poorer nor less able to afford them: and for merit, be you assured it will wear as fast as a tear will dry, neither is it found so ready a way to honor and profit, as some other which I know you have some skill of. In sum, perhaps you have not all contentment there, but believe it you will have none here; therefore if any misunderstanding hath begotten this purpose either in you, or of you, I wish you to clear it. And if it be the labor of that third, advice what you will have done to stop it, and employ your friends and especially my self, in any purpose wherein I may be of use.
The ordinary occurrences I forbear to write because you have them from every body. The result of our parliament labors hitherto, may be reduced to an agreement of some more severe laws against priests and recusants, and of a grant of two subsidies and four fifteens; which tho'very graciously accepted by the King as we heard this day by our speaker, yet it is thought will be attempted to be drawn higher. We are in some expectation of a creation of four barons, viz. The Lord chief justice, Mr. Attorney, who is designed chief justice of the common pleas in gaudie's room, Sir john fortescue, and Sir Thomas knevett, whose wife hath the charge of the Lady mary, and who was himself a fortunate instrument to discover the powder. Our grandees in court continue the same; only my Lord of dunbar is gone into Scotland, and hath already put away some of his officers, and intends to put away the rest, as it is thought with a purpose to retire wholly, an hoc satias ceperit cum omnia acceperint, an illos cum omnia tribuerint? And thus Sir, having almost spent my eyes which were bad before I will end somewhat abruptly, and with all happiness unto you and yours
your very assured friend to my best power, HENRY NEVILLE.
08 April 1606
Henry Neville to Dudley Carleton
ID: letter_114
Sir That very day that I spoke with you last, and before Mr. Paulet's going out of town, another good friend of mine, broke the matter you know of directly unto him. his answer was, that the same motion had been made unto him before his going over (as he supposed from my Lord of Salisbury) by my L. Chief Justice: That he liked very well of the kindred and alliance. That he had understood well of the parley by my Lady Carew: And in conclusion, promised That he would see her before he took sight of any other. But for the present, he was that day to go out of town with my Lord Norris, and from his house into Somersetshire, but with a purpose to return hither again very shortly. Now therefore hearing by a man of mine which met you, that you were come back, I am desirous to know what is become of him, and whether he be gone towards Somersetshire, and when you think he will be here again. Withal, if upon this overture made to him, he have opened him self any more unto you, if it please you to favor me so much as to impart it unto me, you shall increase your own former kindness and my obligation unto you for it. And so with many thanks for the good offices you have done already, which I will be evermore desirous and ready to requite to my best ability, I take my leave, and remain Your assured friend to be disposed of Henry Neville. from Westminster the 8th of April 1606
04 June 1606
Henry Neville to Ralph Winwood
ID: letter_089
SIR, 4th June 1606.
SINCE your receipt of my last letter I have been at my house in the country, and sought in in my book of negotiations, for any thing that might concern that project made by eliot: I only find it mentioned in one letter of mine to my Lord salisbury, and answered in one of his to me, both which I have copied out and sent you herewith. The plot it seems was the spaniards, and reserved by him to be communicated by himself; so as I was not made privy to the particularities of it: as for eliot, I remember he was not conferred with about any matter at his coming over, but only concerning john killegrew, with whom it was supposed he had held some correspondence while he was in Spain; and not satisfying in that he was much threatened, but in the end (by reason of my passport) dismissed, without making any use of him.
I have lately had some conference with Sir thomas bodley about your business, who tells me, that at his last being with my Lord of salisbury, my Lord wished the motion touching the increase of your entertainment to be forborne a while, so as we have both agreed not to press him again till the next term be ended.
My Lord hath gotten much love and honor this parliament by his constant dealing in matters of religion; some fruit of it was seen in his attendance to the installation, being such as I dare avow never subject had in any memory. I hope it will confirm and strengthen him in his good proceedings.
For my own basyness I am at a stand, if I go not backward. This parliament hath done me no good, where not only speeches and actions, but countenances, and conversation with men disliked, hath been observed. But in these points I cannot betray my own mind, speed as it will. Our laws against recusants have been very sharp, insomuch as we are devising already how we may qualify them in the execution. But the mischief is, that some of them stand upon incapacities, which are immediately instilled by the law it self and cannot be dispensed with, which troubles us much.
There was one point proposed, first by my self, and intended to the good of your side, and so it past the lower house, but afterwards the lords altered it, so as I doubt rather it may do harm; it was thus at the first. That all the subjects of this realm which should go over to serve, or should serve any foreign Prince in his wars which professed the romish religion, not having before their going out of England taken an oath newly prescribed; and if they were gentlemen and officers of bands, not having entered into bonds at the port where they shipped, with two sureties in 20 l. At the least, with condition not to be reconciled to the Pope or Church of Rome, nor to entertain or conceal any traitorous attempts or practice against the King or this state, should be felons. This being particular at the first is made General by the lords alteration, and extended to all that shall serve any foreign Prince or state whatsoever. The inconveniency that I apprehend will follow thereof is, that our voluntarys which go over to serve your side, will not be so forward hereafter, when they shall see they shall adventure the peril of felony, if they either do not this which is required of them, or be not able to prove it when they shall be called in question. And altho'the like may be said of those that go to the other side, yet the case is not equal, for they may better want our men then you, they having Spain, Italy, and Germany open, besides a large territory of their own, and your side having no foreigners of which they may be confident, or at least so confident, as our nation: and if this effect follow of discouraging our voluntarys, (which I fear) the Archduke hath his purpose which he insisted upon in the treaty and we absolutely refused, namely to restrain our people from serving on either side.
Thus is my good intention clean perverted, and I have told my Lord of salisbury what I conceive of it, who seems to answer it thus; that they which go to the states will readily take the oath and put in bonds, but the other will not; and so thinks that we shall have our purpose, and yet give no cause of exception to those princes. But of this experience must be the best judge, wherein what you find between this and the next session I pray you let me know, that if you find any mischief in it to your side we may help it then, which will be no heard matter; at the least to repeal the whole clause, and leave it as it was before.
Upon Sunday last there were diverse merchants and merchant's wives at the court, and made grievous complaint unto the King, the one of their servants, and the other of their husbands, imprisoned and put to the galleys in Spain, and of much injustice and oppression done there to our nation, besides some particular contumely to the King personally; the like complaint was made before to the lords. I hear it hath moved much, and this I will assure you, that the kingdom generally wish this peace broken, but jacobus pacificus I believe will scarce incline to that side. We are in daily expectation of the King of Denmark's arrival and the Queen's delivery, charges that we have little need of. I suppose you hear that my Lord Ereskin and Sir john Ramsey are made viscounts, and the latter hath a 1000 l. Land given him to support the title; so the King's land enclosed to all other, is only open to them; yet there is an expectation of some promotions at the christening of the Queen's child. Other news this court affords not, unless I should write you of the admirable pastime lately taken up of hunting or daring of dotterells and other of that nature, which I think you can well be without; and therefore for want of more and better matter, I will conclude with my affectionate commendations and best wish unto your self and mrs. Winwood, and so take my leave.
Your very assured friend to dispose of, HENRY NEVILLE.
04 June 1606
Henry Neville to Ralph Winwood
ID: letter_133
Sir. Since the receipt of your last letter I have been at my house in the country, and sought, in my book of negotiations, for any thing that might concern that project made by Eliot. I only find it mentioned in one letter of mine to my lord of Salisbury, and answered in one of his to me: both which I have copied out and sent you herewith. The plot it seems was the Spaniards, and reserved by him to be communicated by him self. So as I was not made privy to the particularities of it. As for Elliot, I remember he was not conferred with about any matter at his coming over, but only concerning John Killigrew, with whom it was supposed he had holden some correspondence while he was in Spaine. And not satisfying in that, he was much threatened, but in the end, by reason of my passport, dismissed without making any use of him. I have lately had some conference with Sir. Thomas Bodley about your business. who tells me, that at his last being with my lord of Salisbury, my lord wished the motion touching the increase of your entertainment to be forborne a while. So as we have both agreed, not to press him again till the next Term be ended. My lord hath gotten much love and honor this parliament, by his constant dealing in the matters of religion. Some fruit of it was seen in his attendance to the installation: being such as I dare avow never subject had in any memory. I hope it will confirm and strengthen him in his good proceedings. For mine own business, I am at a stand, if I go not backward. This parliament hath done me no good: where not only speeches & actions, but countenances, and conversation with men disliked, hath been observed. But in those points, I can not betray mine own mind. Speed as it will. Our laws against recusants have been very sharp in so much as we are devising already, how we may qualify them in the execution. But the mischief is, That some of them stand upon incapacities, which are immediately inflicted by the law it self, and can not be dispensed with: which troubles vs much. There was one point, proposed first by my self and intended to the good of your side; and so it past the lower house. But afterwards the lords altered it so, as I doubt rather it may do harm it was thus at the first. That all the subjects of this realm which should go over to serve, or should serve, any foreign prince in his wars which professed the romish religion, not having before their going out of England taken an oath newly prescribed, and if they were gentlemen or officers of bandes, not having entered into bonds at the port where they shipped with two sureties in xxli at the least with condition not to be reconciled to the Pope or church of Rome, nor to entertain or conceive any traitorous attempts or practice against the king or his state, should be felons. This being particular at the first is made general by the lords alteration and extended to all that shall serve any foreign prince or state whatsoever. The inconvenience that I apprehend will follow hereof is, That our voluntaries which go over to serve your side, will not be so forward hereafter when they see they shall adventure the peril of felony if they either do not this which is required of them, or be not able to prove it when they shall be called in question. And although the like may be said of those which go to the other side, yet the case is not equal. for they may better want our men then you. they having Spaine Italy and Germany open, besides a larger territory of their own, and your side having no foreigners of whom they may be confident, or at least so confident, as our nation. And if this effect follow of discouraging our voluntaries, which I fear the archeduke hath his purpose, which he insisted upon in the treaty, & we absolutely refused; namely to restrain our people from serving either side. Thus is my good intention clean perverted. And I have told my lord of Salisbury what I conceive of it who seems to answer it thus, That they which go to the states will readily take the oath & put in bonds, but the other will not. And so thinks that we shall have our purpose, and yet give no cause of exception unto those princes. But of this, experience must be the best Judge wherein what you find between this and the next session, I pray you let me know that if you find any mischief in it to your side, we may help it then which will be no hard matter. at the least, to repeal the whole clause, and leave it as it was before. Upon sunday last there were divers merchants and merchants wives at the court, and made grievous complaint unto the king the one of their servants, and the other of their husbands, imprisoned and put to the galleys in Spaine, and of much injustice and oppression done to our nation there, besides some particular contumely to the king personally. The like complaint was made before to the lords. I here it hath moved much. And this I will assure you That the kingdom generally wishes this peace broken. But Jacobus pacificus I believe will scarce incline to that side. We are in daily expectation of the king of denmarkes arrival, and the queen 's delivery. charges that we have little need of. I suppose you here that my l. Ereskin & Sir. John Ramsey are made Vicounts, and the latter hath 1000li land given him to support the title. So the kings hand, closed to all others, is only open to them. yet there is an expectation of some promotions at the christening of the queen 's child. other news this court affords not unless I should write you of the admirable pastime lately taken up of hunting or daring of dotterells, and other of that nature which I think you can well be without. And therefore for want of more or better matter, I will conclude, with my affectionate commendations and best wishes unto your self & mrs. Winwood, and to take my leave. from London, the 4th of June 1606. your very assured friend to dispose of Henry Neville
15 September 1606
Henry Neville to Thomas Windebank
ID: letter_130
Sir. I am much ashamed of the errors which were redoubled towards you yesterday. first by my self in forsaking you, And next by my people, in their ill attending you. My hope was to have killed our deer in time to have returned to you to dinner. But when I saw he had carried us out as far as Cramborne, and that it was not possible for me to come back in time, I thought it as good to stay out his death, presuming of their discretion at home, not to have stayed your dinner for me. But I perceive errors go not single but one commonly begets another, as bad, if not worse then it self. I pray you pardon both; Confession and contrition you have already, which are two parts of penance. The third, satisfaction, shall be when & how, you will enjoin it. And so hoping, and desiring to here, that your coming abroad yesterday, did you no other harm, but the loss of your dinner, I commend me heartily unto you, and rest Evermore at your comẽande Henry Neville
01 January 1607
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_111
Right honorable. Although I have shaken of an ague and a cold, which have kept me a prisoner to my chamber more then a full month, yet I am not so strong as I dare venture abroad in this extreme weather. Therefore I make bold to advertise your lordship·p by writing, that Mr. welden & Mr. Day are both desirous to proceed for their exemption & have brought by their money & left it with me. I mean xli. a piece; which if your lordship-p think not sufficient, I will add xls. for either of them, rather then they should be put of, because I had once signified unto them (upon some mistaking as it seems of your lordship 's. speeches to me) that they should have it for ten pound. With more I have not dealt. But I here from those I have used in the country, that many of the inferior sort harken after it, and will be very ready to embrace it, when it shall be offered them at reasonable rates, as 6li 7li & 8li according as they be of several abilities. And from men of that sort it is that the mass must rise. When the forme of the patent is once agreed of, and drawn by Mr. Attorney, I should think, some officer might be appointed to make all the rest by that forme, without troubling Mr. Attorney any more, as it was in the coronation pardons, & so to pass the great seal immediately. otherwise it will be a long work, and of greater charge then needs, being a matter intended for the kings benefit. This term your lordship-p knows is not long, and the Assizes follow presently after. If there be a good beginning made before, it will forward the business much. I beseech your lordship-p to pardon me, if I have been to busy and to bold to offer my poor opinion in this matter, and to command my service in all things as one that professes him self your lordship 's most bounden to do you all duty Henry Neville
16 March 1607
Henry Neville to Richard Staverton
ID: letter_162_nr_1607_03_16_staverton
Mr. Staverton. The motion you make now, to refer the difference between us concerning the base tenures, to a conference of your counsel and mine, is no other than I my self offered almost a year since in open court to the Tenants, and which they have ever since neglected. And although I might Justly refuse now, that which you have all refused so long, yet to be constant to mine own purposes, which have ever been rather to recover my right in friendly manner than by suit of law (although I hold the course by law, as free and Just for me as it is for you) I am contented to embrace your motion, but with this condition, that it shall not be used as a means to delay me or defeat me of my trial. Therefore I will not deliver the cattle but upon a replevin, or such a condition as I proposed in my last letter unto you. But when the replevin is brought, I will give you my promise not to proceed in the suit, till our counsel hath met & conferred. And for the conference I will nominate the first 4 days of the next Term. if this like you, I have given this bearer order to deliver the cattle. if not, you must take some course for their keeping hereafter in the pound. for I will not stand charged any way with them. All this controversy notwithstanding, I will continue the same mind towards you which I mentioned in my former letter. The law (by my will) shall try our right, and I will nevertheless remain from London the 16th of March 1607
01 January 1608
Henry Neville to Thomas Sackville
ID: letter_118
Sir. it is now full 3 months, since I entreated a friend to let his Majesty. understand, that I intended to sell a parcel of woodgrownd, well stored with very good Timber, within three miles of the river of Thames, and very apt & fit for his deer & pastime. it pleased his Majesty. to entertain the matter, & to command me to acquaint my l. Treasurer with it. I did as I was commanded, & my lord sent down a surveyor to view & measure it. further it hath not proceeded, by reason (as I conceive) that his Majesty. hath said nothing to my lord of it. But in the mean time, my occasions call upon me to sell it either to his Majesty. or some other. I would therefore intreat you to make this humble suit unto his Majesty. on my behalf, That if his pleasure be to buy it, upon reasonable price & days of payment, he will be pleased to signify his mind unto my l. Treasurer to that purpose. And if not, that he will be pleased to give me leave to make my best of it towards the payment of my debts. I do not so much press for speedy payment, as to be assured of the money at such times as my l. Treasurer shall think this Majesty. may best spare it. Neither make I this offer, with any hope to have more of the king then of another; But I do it, because I know it lies very conveniently for his Majesty. in many respects. And for the price, I will refer me to that, which the surveyor hath esteemed it at. And so desiring you to pardon my frequent boldness, and to command me in all occasions wherein I may witness my love & thankfulness, I take my leave & remain your ever assured and affectionate friend Henry Neville
01 January 1608
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_134
Right honorable. Being my self fallen into a great cold, and not able to wait upon your Lordship, and the quarter Sessions drawing on, which will be the fittest time and opportunity to sound men's dispositions, in the matter it pleased you to communicate with me, I have made bold to to (sic!) pray your Lordship 's clear direction, in some points concerning that business. first whether I shall cause any to be dealt with now, but only gentlemen: And if none but gentlemen, what is the lowest price that shall be set them for all charges, as well to the king as otherwise. next, if I shall treat with any of inferior quality, what their lowest rate shall be in like manor: And whether I may not taste them about the exemption from the church wardenship likewise, & try what they will give for both. Lastly whether all gentlemen that be desirous of it, shall compound at the same rate, or what difference your Lordship will think fit to be made. And because I desire much, both the furtherance and expediting of this service, I will be bold once more to offer unto your consideration, that it will not be amiss, to give the exemption gratis unto some principal man in every shire, to whom you will commit the chief trust of the business, so to draw on the rest: or if you will not do it generally, yet I beseech you to afford it me: and I will not doubt but to make good use of it. for when I have professed, as I have done to many, that I meant to take such an exemption, other of my rank have told me, that if I took any, they would do so too. I am further to acquaint your Lordship that I understand out of the country that Mr Welden, one of those whom I named unto your Lordship, will be contented to give Ten pound for the exemption, so as he may be at no further charge. The rest stick at it, but have promised to send me their resolution shortly. This Mr Welden is a man that hath never served in any Jury, neither do I think him, for his capacity, fit to serve. if your lordship think well of his offer, he may have his patent yet before the Sessions, which is the tuesday after Twelfth day; And being published thereof will hasten men's resolutions much, as I suppose. Thus craving pardon of this boldness, occasioned by my present indisposition, I humbly take my leave. from Dacre house this first of January 1607 your Lordship 's most dutiful and affectionate to do you service Henry Neville
14 September 1608
Henry Neville to Henry Savile
ID: letter_122
Sir. I have advised Sir. Richard Brook to pass by oxford, and to have some conference with the dean of christchurch about the renewing of the lease; and the rather, to take the opportunity of your being there, and to use both your advise and furtherance in his suit. which he will entreat of you, and I earnestly pray you to afford him. I would not wish him to make any absolute conclusion now, but only to sound what they will demand, and to take a time to give answer till the next term, after he hath spoken with his father. I pray you take so much pains as I peruse the copy of his lease, and thereby, and with some questions which perhaps he will be able to satisfy you in, you will understand his business the more thoroughly, which of it self, me thinks is somewhat intricate. And so with our heartiest commendations, wishing you good success in your physic I commit you to god. from Pillingbeare the 14th of September 1608 your very loving cousin Henry Neville.
24 September 1608
Henry Neville to Julius Caesar
ID: letter_113
Right honorable. I have sent you the two surveys of Sonning & Bray which it pleased you to send me down this summer. Of that of Sonning I made some use in the valuing of those copyholds whereof I gave your honor. a note. The other I never opened, because I never heard of young Mr. Henry whom you required me to assist. I do not doubt but to raise his Majesty. profit in the manor of Sonning, to the full rate of your directions. Neither do I intend to tie my self so exactly to the survey, which I find faulty in some points already, but that if I can learn a better value for the king, I will take it. your honor: may rest assured, that I will use my best endeavor to further your good purposes for his Majesty. benefit, and to discharge the trust reposed in me. I have made bold, because I can not now attend your honor. my self, by reason that my colleague and I are to take the musters throughout this whole shire, to send the warrant I have from his Majesty. for the two small leases in Sonning, and the particulars which I took of them from the Auditor almost three years since. The one of them, by the east park is bought of late by Sir. richard Lovelace and therefore I intend not to meddle with it, because he is my kind neighbor and friend. But for the other, I humbly desire that the kings grant under his hand and signet, may be available to me, as to prefer me to it before any other, yeelding to his Majesty. as much as that other will give. if it please your honor. to do me favor in it, I shall acknowledge it with my best service, and I have given this bearer commission to conclude the bargain for me, and to follow it in mine absence. And so remembring my service unto your honor. I commit you to the protection of almighty god. from Pillingbeare the 24th of September 1608. your honor 's. very ready to be commanded. Henry Neville
14 January 1609
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_120
Right honorable and my singular good Lord. Though I approve not the boldness of such as dare commit any thing to a letter, because it can not blush, yet finding in my self, either out of the imbecility of my nature, or the abundance of my love and respect unto your Lordship., which is ever accompanied with awe and reverence, that I can not so freely express my self unto your Lordship-p by speech as my occasions require, I have adventured to do it by writing, humbly praying your favorable interpretation. My Lord, if I were conscious to my self of any evil desert towards your Lordship, since the time it pleased you to assure me that you had remitted all former displeasures which you might have conceived against me, and there upon to give me your hand of friendship, (for so it pleased you to term it) I would not be so shameless or senseless to seek or expect any favor at your hands. for my conscience would tell me I deserved it not, and my reason, that I were not to look for it. But my heart standing so clear as it doth, and my professions and demonstrations of duty and service unto your Lordship being so open, as all men which know me take knowledge of it, I can not entertain many thought or fear, that your Lordship stands any otherwise inclined towards me, then when you dismissed me at that time from your nature to advise me to seek some good for my self, and to offer me your honorable assistance, so in full assurance that your favorable intention still continues the same, I will lay open my estate before your Lordship and let it plead for me. That I spent by occasion of my service in france, upon the point of four thousand pound of mine own, I have often said, and I will make apparent proof of it, if it be required, upon the hasard of my poor reputation. This, to my small estate, charged with so many children, gave such a blow, as to confess the truth I neither have, nor ever shall be able to recover it of my self. yet have I, as most men use to do, struggled with my necessities, and laboured to conceal them as much as I could. knowing, that although poverty be no vice, especially not growing by any disorder of a mans own, but by service imposed, yet whatsoever the cause is, the effect is contempt for the most part. And therefore in hope of some good hap at the length, I have held up my head as long as I was able. But now my children being increased, and divers of them grown up and fit to be bestowed, I find my self ready to sink under the burden. And am therefore constrained to implore your Lordship 's favor even beyond modesty or mine own nature Your Lordship will be pleased to remember, that with your privity and good approbation, I began a suit to his Majesty. for a fee farm of some land, in recompense of that which I had sold during my service. I received at the first comfortable and hopeful answers. But in the end your Lordship. wished me to think of somewhat els, because the king had given so much, as he was not willing to be pressed any more in that kind. Since that, my fortune or intelligence hath not been so good as to light upon any things free from other difficulties. Only I obtained a licence to enfranchise mine own copyholds, which hath yielded me little, through the backwardness or disability of my tenants to compound with me. I obtained also, by your Lordship 's. good means, the reversion which was in the crowne, of threescore and odd pound by the year in parsonages, which was given to my father and the heirs males of his body (being twelve at this instant) whereby although I have a little better estate in that land then I had before, yet I am not one penny enriched. And lastly I got the reversion for my some of the parks I have of the kings; which to him after my death will be some advantage, but to me for the present is nothing. Yet these favors I do with all humble thankfulness acknowledge, and will strive to deserve them with my best service. But if I rest here, my necessities are nothing relieved, neither know I how to wade through them, having many younger children, and my land being assured to my eldest. yet am I not immoderate in desires or demands. for if I might obtain any thing which would yield me but half that I spent in france, I would hold my self well satisfied. or if that can not be, because indeed all suits are either restrained or especially designated, I would be glad of some small annuities to my younger sonnes, that being eased of that charge, I may be the more able to provide for my daughters. Of his Majesty. gracious disposition I have, not long since, received some testimonies, and cause to hope that he will be favourably inclined to do me good. But as the diseased man lay long by the poole of Bethesda without any help, for want of some to put him into the water when it was stirred, so may it be long with me, unless it please your Lordship-p, from whom only I desire to receive it, to do me this charitable office. The example can not not be ill, either in respect of his Majesty., to release one that been hindered by public service, which is not ordinary nor communicable to very many, nor of your Lordship, to do good to one tied unto you by so many bonds. And the less my precedent merit hath been, the more free and the more noble will your favor be, and bind the more hereafter. I can say no more, but that whatsoever it shall please your Lordship-p to to do for me, shall be received with an honest thankful heart. wherein I comprehend all offers and assurances of love duty and service. And so praying humbly pardon again of this boldness, I rest your Los. most bounden, and desirous ever so to be to honor & serve you Henry Neville.
14 January 1609
Henry Neville to Robert Cecil
ID: letter_121
Right honorable and my singular good Lord. Though I approve not the boldness of such as dare commit any thing to a letter, because it can not blush, yet finding in my self, either out of the imbecility of my nature, or the abundance of my love and respect unto your Lordship., which is ever accompanied with awe and reverence, that I can not so freely express my self unto your Lordship-p by speech as my occasions require, I have adventured to do it by writing, humbly praying your favorable interpretation. My Lord, if I were conscious to my self of any evil desert towards your Lordship, since the time it pleased you to assure me that you had remitted all former displeasures which you might have conceived against me, and there upon to give me your hand of friendship, (for so it pleased you to term it) I would not be so shameless or senseless to seek or expect any favor at your hands. for my conscience would tell me I deserved it not, and my reason, that I were not to look for it. But my heart standing so clear as it doth, and my professions and demonstrations of duty and service unto your Lordship being so open, as all men which know me take knowledge of it, I can not entertain many thought or fear, that your Lordship stands any otherwise inclined towards me, then when you dismissed me at that time from your nature to advise me to seek some good for my self, and to offer me your honorable assistance, so in full assurance that your favorable intention still continues the same, I will lay open my estate before your Lordship and let it plead for me. That I spent by occasion of my service in france, upon the point of four thousand pound of mine own, I have often said, and I will make apparent proof of it, if it be required, upon the hasard of my poor reputation. This, to my small estate, charged with so many children, gave such a blow, as to confess the truth I neither have, nor ever shall be able to recover it of my self. yet have I, as most men use to do, struggled with my necessities, and laboured to conceal them as much as I could. knowing, that although poverty be no vice, especially not growing by any disorder of a mans own, but by service imposed, yet whatsoever the cause is, the effect is contempt for the most part. And therefore in hope of some good hap at the length, I have held up my head as long as I was able. But now my children being increased, and divers of them grown up and fit to be bestowed, I find my self ready to sink under the burden. And am therefore constrained to implore your Lordship 's favor even beyond modesty or mine own nature Your Lordship will be pleased to remember, that with your privity and good approbation, I began a suit to his Majesty. for a fee farm of some land, in recompense of that which I had sold during my service. I received at the first comfortable and hopeful answers. But in the end your Lordship. wished me to think of somewhat els, because the king had given so much, as he was not willing to be pressed any more in that kind. Since that, my fortune or intelligence hath not been so good as to light upon any things free from other difficulties. Only I obtained a licence to enfranchise mine own copyholds, which hath yielded me little, through the backwardness or disability of my tenants to compound with me. I obtained also, by your Lordship 's. good means, the reversion which was in the crowne, of threescore and odd pound by the year in parsonages, which was given to my father and the heirs males of his body (being twelve at this instant) whereby although I have a little better estate in that land then I had before, yet I am not one penny enriched. And lastly I got the reversion for my some of the parks I have of the kings; which to him after my death will be some advantage, but to me for the present is nothing. Yet these favors I do with all humble thankfulness acknowledge, and will strive to deserve them with my best service. But if I rest here, my necessities are nothing relieved, neither know I how to wade through them, having many younger children, and my land being assured to my eldest. yet am I not immoderate in desires or demands. for if I might obtain any thing which would yield me but half that I spent in france, I would hold my self well satisfied. or if that can not be, because indeed all suits are either restrained or especially designated, I would be glad of some small annuities to my younger sonnes, that being eased of that charge, I may be the more able to provide for my daughters. Of his Majesty. gracious disposition I have, not long since, received some testimonies, and cause to hope that he will be favourably inclined to do me good. But as the diseased man lay long by the poole of Bethesda without any help, for want of some to put him into the water when it was stirred, so may it be long with me, unless it please your Lordship-p, from whom only I desire to receive it, to do me this charitable office. The example can not not be ill, either in respect of his Majesty., to release one that been hindered by public service, which is not ordinary nor communicable to very many, nor of your Lordship, to do good to one tied unto you by so many bonds. And the less my precedent merit hath been, the more free and the more noble will your favor be, and bind the more hereafter. I can say no more, but that whatsoever it shall please your Lordship-p to to do for me, shall be received with an honest thankful heart. wherein I comprehend all offers and assurances of love duty and service. And so praying humbly pardon again of this boldness, I rest your Los. most bounden, and desirous ever so to be to honor & serve you Henry Neville.
19 July 1609
Henry Neville to Richard Staverton
ID: letter_136
To the Worshipful, my very good friend Mr. Richard Staverton give these at Newlodge. To you Mr. Staverton. Yesternight at my coming home, I found a letter of yours, which as you see I have not long deferred to answer. And first concerning Beard, I will not Justify him, but am apt enough to believe that he which hath now stolen from me, may have done as much from you at other times. But three things I would wish you to Consider in this last particular whereof you write. First, that from whomesoever the deer was stolen, you can not Justify the taking or defaming of his bow. for he is a known keeper and therefore hath warrant by the law to keep a Bow, and no man can take it from him, being parcel of his goods. But if he offend with it, he is to be punished otherwise. Secondly that Beard was not a keeper of my choice. for you know I had displaced him, and that he was put upon me, by him that hath power to Command both you and me in all things. therefore / I will not not be answerable for his offences. And lastly that the place where he killed this deer is in warfield if I be truly informed: And if in warfield, not within the forest now your Charge. for I have as much right to all warfield that is holden of me, as to any part of it, for your better satisfaction wherein, because you seem not to understand what my liberty is there, I let you know that it is no purlieu but a free Chase, exempt by special words, from all Jurisdiction or Intermeddling of the Justice in Eyre or any keeper or other minister of the forest whatsoever. And this was first granted to the Bishop of winchester over all his own lands and his Tenants throughout England, by king Edward the first, Confirmed & amplified unto him by king Edward the third, and so Continued Confirmed and Enjoyed in all succeeding kings reigns until king Edward the sixth: who made an exchange with the Bishop for these Manors that are now mine, and after gave them unto my father with all such Royalties and liberties as the Bishop had; And my father Enjoyed & exercised them accordingly as you know, and in the late Queen's time was put to his trial for them, and had them allowed and admitted unto him in the kings bench; upon a quo warranto brought against him by the Attorney general. And my lady Periam and my self have had the like allowance upon our Claim in the Exchequer since his Majesty's time. So as for the validity of them there is no question, having been so sifted as they have been, and received such allowance. Then being within warfield & holden formerly of the Bishop and now of me, there is as little question but my liberty extends to that place as well as to the rest of warfield. And whereas you write that your father walked that part of warfield, I confess it to be true, And there be that remember that it was by my fathers sufferance & consent. And in that sort you might & may still continue it. but you have some ruffianly knaves about you who (as I am informed) say they will walk it in despite of me. But in that kind, I would have both them and you know that I will not suffer it, but I will call any man to account that shall Impeach mine Inheritance. And if your father had Challenged it in that fashion, I know well how far my father would have been from enduring it. In this point it will not be amiss for you to remember, that you are a Copyholder of that manor, and sworn to maintain all the lawful rights that belong unto the lord. To conclude, this offence is done to me, and I mean to call Beard in question for it at my Court and there punish him, as I may and will any other Tenant that shall break my liberty of Chase. but if you detain his bow he will take his remedy against you. And if you call him in question for it in any other place, you infringe my liberty (which how it will stand with your oath of a tenant I know not) and I must needs maintain it, though I disavow his fact, and being done without any warrant or knowledge of mine. whereas you seem to charge Trigge with offences of the same nature who indeed is my keeper of the Chase, and not Beard, you shall do me a pleasure to prove it. for if he be false he shall walk it no longer. But till it be proved you must give me leave to suspend my opinion, as I am sure you will do for Bunny. Now to come to the other part of your letter concerning your own business, your self can best witness how willing I was to have these questions that are grown between vs, Composed without suit in law. You know two meetings were appointed for our Counsel to confess and end them friendly, and you failed at both. you will answer you were lame. but since you were well and able to travel, did you ever renew the motion, or accept of it when it hath been offered you on my part or did you not immediately after your second failing hold a Court in a bravery, and give out great and big words in all places, of spending hundreds & thousands, nay of fighting and dying in the defence of the title These things you must think I heard and smiled at, but was never moved further then to take it for resolved, that you meant not to end these Controversies in that sort that was first proposed, and therefore I prepared my self to proceed in an other. yet had I this respect unto you, that I was contented you should be the last I would call in question, supposing that when the cause had been tried with some other, you would have been satisfied, and I should not have needed any suit. And so I would have Continued, but that your self provoked me to the Contrary with your proceeding at your last Court, where you did not only attempt to hold plea of an assise brought there by Doughty, a matter never Challenged by your Ancestors nor used by your self, but also called in question a grant made of a base hold in the high Court, which is directly contrary to the use and challenge of your own side. These new encroachments made upon me, as I conceive only in a bravery Lite pendente, enforced me to bring the matter in question sooner then I intended. wherein what the success will be I must leave to trial. But this I pray you think of me, as you wish me to do of you, that I am not so unadvised to begin or stir this question, but that I have received as much assurance of my right, and from as good Counsel as I could seek or take if it concerned my whole Inheritance. Yet I can not blame you, neither do I, for defending that right that you suppose you have. I would do the same if I were in your Case. only in this I should differ from you, that I would seek to have it tried as soon as I could, which you do not, but put it of by unnecessary delays that can advantage you no way, but will assuredly increase the Charge of the suit which otherwise (I dare undertake) may be brought to a Judgment for ten pound Charge, and as little to you in respect of the consequence. for if I evict the base from you, the land remains to you that you have in possession, and those bases must bear a rateable part of the lords rent which you now pay. So as you lose nothing but your fines, which are small and certain, and your heriots. both which I dare take upon me to satisfy your Counsel, will not yield you so much profit as they will cost you, when you pass through the high lords Court, where you must fine for them and your own both, and must know that your suit es are arbitrary and not certain. But take heed, that as some surgeons use to make long Cures of small hurtes to pick out a living out of them, so some lawyers do not hold you the longer and animate you the more in this suit, upon the same reason. / I can tell you some of them do not think to say (as I have heard) that they would be loath to lose you, for you see them well both with venison and otherwise. To conclude, whereas you write that you would be glad any course should be taken whereby you might enjoy your own, and I be satisfied, my answer is, that if you will propose any such, by your self or any friend, I will not reject it, but entertain it willingly if it be reasonable. And if yours be not, it may peradventure give me occasion to make one that shall be. for I am neither by nature contentious, nor so weak that I will be easily led by other, as you seem to glance. And so having answered as I take it all the parts of your letter, I end, as I parted when I last saw you, in very good Charity, and willing to continue (our right on both sides reserved). Your loving friend and neighbour Henry Neville. from Pillingbere the th of July.
29 May 1612
Henry Neville to John Holles
ID: letter_163_nr_1612_05_29_holles
Sir. When I came from you this afternoon I found the King not gone abroad, nor in a good while after, so as I believe it will be late ere the prince return. But that is not all for I have received notice from my friends that the king is pleased to speak with me himself and am required to be in a readiness when he comes in. I must therefore intreat you to make my humble excuse to his highness that I wait not upon him at this time. But as soon as I have attended his Majesty's pleasure, be it this night or tomorrow or whensoever, I will wait your best opportunity to finish the favour you have begun for me. In the meantime I render you due thanks for so much as I have already received and will ever remain your thankful and most respective friend to serve you. Henry Neville. From Westminster, 29 May, 1612.
30 May 1612
Henry Neville to John Holles
ID: letter_164_nr_1612_05_30a_holles
Sir. I lost my attendance at the Court yesterday by reason that the King was otherwise busied. I am now going thither again for the same purpose, where I may perhaps be put off again. Yet must I always attend and not be out of the way when the King shall call for me, so as I cannot dispose of myself at any time certain till this be past. Therefore I beseech you make my excuses accordingly and as soon as I have waited upon the King, it shall be my first care and suit to kiss his highnesses hands. In the meantime confessing myself much obliged to you for your kind regard which I will ever strive to deserve I remain yours assuredly to be commanded, Henry Neville. The 30th of May, 1612.
30 May 1612
Henry Neville to John Holles
ID: letter_165_nr_1612_05_30b_holles
Sir. When I sent my man to you this morning, I went presently after to the Court and finding the King gone abroad a hunting, where I supposed the prince would likewise be, I took the opportunity of that time to make a step into London about an especial business of mine own. In the meantime my man not finding me at Whitehall, where I willed him to attend me, went home to my house to wait for me there; so as we met not till the time you assigned me was past. I am sorry for this accident and that I received not your letter in time. But my hope is that my plain and honest intentions will receive a gracious interpretation and that his highness will dispense with my present necessary attendance upon the king's pleasure and leisure, and command me afterwards to wait upon him either here, if the opportunity serve, or at Richmond whither I will come on purpose. I acknowledge your great favour in the meantime and will endeavour to approve myself your thankful friend and kinsman to serve you, Henry Neville. Westminster the 30th of May, 1612.
01 October 1612
Henry Neville to Julius Caesar
ID: letter_166_nr_1612_10_01_caesar
To the right honorable Sr. Julius Caesar knight Chancellor of the exchequer and of his Majesties. most honourable privy Council Right honorable. I am bold, by these few lines, to renew the suit I made unto your honor., for sparing me from the office of collector of the Aide in Berkshire. I executed it the last time, upon the aide levied for the prince, and found it more troublesome & to require more attendance, than all the business of the Commission. And now it will be very inconvenient to me, because I am like to lie in London all this winter with my family, and have besides a suit in chancery of good importance, which it concerns me much to attend & follow. Therefore your honor. shall do me a singular favour to spare me, & shall bind me to do you any service that shall lie in my power. And so hoping of your favourable regard therein, I humbly take my leave. from Hampton Court the first of October 1612 your honor's. humbly to be commanded Henry Neville
22 October 1612
Henry Neville to Ralph Winwood
ID: letter_1612_winwood
I am very glad that you have so comfortable an issue of my Ladie's great Sickness-, which I pray God send you much Joy of. I thank you very much for the honor you purposed to Sir Henry Saville and me in the Name of your Son. It is an Office I will be very ready to perform upon the next occasion, and will be bold to challenge it of you. Concerning the Journey into Denmark which you stood in doubt of, I may assure you that you need not fear it: I rather mis-trust that there may be some Stay made of your Revocation, by reason of the necessary use of your Presence there: For I have heard that the King is of Opinion-, that Spinola hath some plots in hand either against Cleves or some where else, that may once again brouiller les Cartes; and therefore he is willing to see clearly into them before he will call you home, acknowledging that no Man can serve him so well to that purpose as you. If this Suspicion be without Ground, you may do well in my Opinion to remove it, and thereby facilitate your own Revocation: in the mean time your Friends will use their best Endeavours to the same purpose. For my self, all Things stand as they did. I have the same Friends and the same Enemies still: Only I think I have this Advantage, that the King now knowing me somewhat better then he did, will not be so easily carried with the Reports or Suggestions of my evil Willers. The necessity of supplying that Place is such, and he that now hath it is so weary of it, as I verily believe many Days will not pass ere it be determined; which is all I can advertise you of any Certainty touching that Matter. The Report of all other Things I leave to Mr. More, whom I have likewise entreated to acquaint you with a Request of mine. And so for the present, with my best wishes of Health and happiness unto your self and my Lady, and your elder and younger Offspring, I take my leave.
01 January 1613
Document: Neville Advice to the King
ID: document_neville_advice
There is a question grown and much debated amongst us whether the King should relieve himself in his great wants (whereof the world takes notice both at home and abroad) by a parliament, or by some projects and devices to raise money which may be set on foot to that purpose.
For my part I will not examine what these projects may be, although by the experience of such as have been put in use since the dissolution of the last parliament I am induced to believe that either they will fail or fall short in the practice, howsoever they may appear likely in the theory, or that they will prove like some medicines which do rather take away the sense of pain for the present than cure the grief for which they were applied.
But admit there may be other ways devised to relieve the King, yet I am clearly of opinion that there is none so fit, so honorable, and so necessary as by a parliament. My reason is this: I consider in what terms the King and the last parliament parted at the dissolution, full of distaste and acrimony on his Majesty ’s part and not without some discontentment on theirs. I consider also that from the parliament the apprehensions that are taken there are spread and dispersed into the whole realm, and further, that the knowledge of these misunderstandings between his Majesty and the parliament is not confined with this kingdom only but is flown abroad into all foreign parts that have any commerce in dealing with us.
Now what disadvantage this opinion may breed and what hopes it is like to raise both in our enemies abroad and our discontented persons at home may easily be gathered. For as there is nothing that more upholds the reputation of a prince than the opinion of his strength at home, which consists principally in the love and concord between him and his people from whence there follows naturally a sequence of all other duties on their part to make him strong and able to help or hurt his neighbors, so there is nothing that more emboldens an enemy either open or secret to attempt the disturbance of the peace of any estate than the imagination that the prince and people stand not in kind and loving terms together.
And to this purpose I remember a story of Antigonus, one of the immediate and mightiest successors of Alexander who, being solemnly set in great state to give audience to some other prince ’s f. 135v ambassadors as he was in that solemnity, his son Demetrius came in from hunting and being arrayed in his hunting attire, with his darts in his hands, presented himself unto his father, and after a salutation given according to the manner of that people sat down by him. The audience being ended, and the ambassadors retiring themselves, Antigonus called them again and willed them to report one thing more to their masters, namely, in what fashion they had seen him and his son converse together, intending that would be taken for a great argument of his strength and a great assurance of his safety that his son and he lived in that confidence and concord.42 If this were true in that case between the father and the son how much more is it verified between the prince and the people.
And hereupon I conclude: that the world being possessed with a conceit that the last parliament ended with some sourness and distaste on the King ’s part and not with the best satisfaction on theirs, there is nothing more necessary for the King ’s majesty, either in regard of honor or safety, than to deface that opinion and make it apparent to the world that as he was received into this kingdom at his first entry with the greatest demonstration of the love and joy of his people that ever prince was, so he is still rooted and established in their hearts. And that whatsoever cloud or mist might seem to have darkened or overshadowed the kind respect between them at that time of the parliament, it was no other but that which happens often by some distemper between a tender father and dutiful children which quickly vanishes when the distemper of either side is removed.
For the effecting of this I can think of no other way but by another parliament, for there the error grew and there and nowhere else it must be repaid.
The harsh conclusion of the former parliament bred ill conceits and the sweet close of another must beget a better. And by this means two notable effects will be wrought together if matters be well handled: the removing of that erroneous and dangerous conceit of a misunderstanding between the King and his people and relieving of the King ’s present necessities in so sure, speedy, and plentiful manner. Whereas that other course of projects may happily prove slow and fail in the most, and in very few succeed according to the first design.
And for rectifying the misconceit between the King and his people there is no hope at all that way, it is rather to be feared it will do hurt and sooner aggravate than cure that malady f. 136, if there be not great judgment used in the choice of the projects and much dexterity in the managing of them. Against this opinion there are two objections: the one that the parliament may still continue averse and unwilling to relieve the King at all, and so no hope of making up the breach; the other, that as long as it is unconceived the King can not help himself without them, they will play upon the advantage of his necessities and extort some unreasonable demands from him before they yield to do anything for him. Both these objections are grounded upon the same false foundation, namely, that whatsoever the last parliament did in that kind they did it out of ill affections, which I do know and do confidently avow to be otherways, and have before in speech delivered the true reasons of that averseness as one that lived and conversed inwardly with the chief of them that were noted to be most backward and know their inwardest thoughts in that business, so as I dare undertake for the most part of them that the King ’s majesty ’s proceeding in a gracious course towards his people shall find these gentlemen exceedingly willing to do him service and to give him such contentment as may sweeten all the former distastes and leave both the world and his Majesty fully satisfied of their own good intentions and of the general affection of his subjects.
It is true, as I lately delivered to his Majesty, that some things will be desired and expected of him by way of grace, which may both yield some contentment to them that shall pay what is given in parliament and justify the care and honest regard of them that shall give it. And without this I dare promise nothing. For it is most certain that as in private families and all other societies where the straightest bands of nature or election do concur to unite affections there is almost a continual necessity of mutual offices of kindness to nourish and maintain that love, so in kingdoms besides that great bond of protection and allegiance between the sovereign and the subject, there is a like necessary use of the frequent change of mutual effects of grace and love to cherish and foster that tender affection that daily is to be renewed between them. But what be the things that will be demanded or expected by the parliament in the behalf of the people will be hard for any one man to set down; yet what I have collected out of the desires of sundry of the principal and most understanding gentlemen that were of the last parliament and are like to be f. 136v of this, I will be bold to deliver in a Memorial hereunto adjoining.43 Whereby it shall appear that they aim not at anything unjust, or unreasonable, or that may derogate from his Majesty in point of sovereignty (further than his Majesty has already been pleased to offer in writing to the last parliament, which no doubt will be remembered), nor in point of profit to any matter of certain and considerable value, but only at such things as being now of small moment and left to his Majesty to depart with because they have been sick and ransacked to the bottom may yet be valued to the subject both in opinion and truth at a high rate, because they shall thereby enjoy a great repose and security from vexation which any of them may otherwise be subject unto.
These things being taken into his Majesty ’s consideration and receiving his gracious approbation as matters not unfit to be yielded of grace unto his subjects, the next points to be thought of are: the time of holding the parliament, the things preceding to be done by way of preparation and the manner of proceeding with the House of Commons when the parliament is assembled. For the first, I see no cause why it should be deferred longer than Michaelmas; for after the sessions there must be time proportional for the commissioners to sit and for the money to be levied and brought into the Exchequer which, the sooner it is done the sooner will the King be eased of his debts for which he pays interest and the sooner will his reputation be recovered and settled, which is the thing that most deserves to be respected. If the parliament begin at Michaelmas the term may either be adjourned till Hallowtide or, if not yet, till that time there is little business done so that the lawyers may well attend the parliament whose absence will otherwise breed delay. And I do not see but in a month or five weeks this point of supplying the King, and of his retribution, will be easily determined if it be proposed betimes and followed close afterwards. For the second, which concerns matter of preparation, these be the things that I would humbly offer to his Majesty ’s gracious consideration: to forbear to use any speech of the parliament that may irritate and to seem rather confident than diffident of their affections casting the fault of any former error upon evil offices done on both sides and want of true understanding between them rather than want of f. 137 good affection. To speak graciously and benignly to the people that shall flock to see his Majesty this progress, and especially to take notice of the principal gentlemen and to let them kiss his hand or do them some other grace. To give order to the Archbishop to prohibit all books and invective sermons against the parliament so as notice may be taken of his Majesty ’s commandment before the meeting; to peruse the grievances exhibited the last parliament and if his Majesty will be pleased to be gracious in any of them to do it of himself before he be pressed. For a small thing in that manner will give more contentment than much more obtained with importunity. And especially to call to mind if his Majesty promised anything to the last parliament which is not yet performed, for upon performance of that men will be like to ground their trusts and hopes in those things which shall be offered now. For the last point, concerning the manner of proceeding, I wish that his Majesty will be pleased to make his propositions unto the Commons by himself or by his ministers or servants that are of their own body. For the Commons will be rather willing to make oblation of their affections themselves unto his Majesty than that any other should do it and intercept both the merit and thanks from them. I wish also that the King should forbear to nominate any particular men to be sent unto from the Commons to treat upon any occasion, but after his Majesty has declared his own desires and made likewise known his gracious inclination to gratify his subjects with any favors and graces that with reason and modesty they can desire, for them his Majesty may be pleased to require the House to nominate a competent number of thirty or forty or fewer which may repair unto him with their demands and be authorized both to ask and answer such questions as the debate about them shall beget, without concluding or binding the House in any point but only to clear things and to refer all back to the House. This course I conceive will much expedite the business, avoid jealousies, and give good satisfaction to the most when they shall see that the King shall understand their desires immediately from themselves without any interposition or danger of misinterpretation; and that upon any point of doubt they shall be admitted to clear their own intentions and not be subject to the constructions of others. Matters being thus prepared beforehand and thus managed at the time, and his Majesty being pleased to be gracious to his people in the points proposed or any other of the like nature which may be thought of by the House when they meet (for beforehand no man can precisely say these things will be demanded and no other), I have no doubt but am very confident that his Majesty shall receive as much contentment of this next parliament as he received distaste of the former, and that all things shall end in that sweet accord that will be both honorable and comfortable for his Majesty and happy for the whole realm. And when his Majesty has made use of his people ’s affections to put him out of want, any fit projects that shall be offered may be the boldlier entertained to fill his coffers. For whatsoever shall be done in that kind will be the less subject to offense when there is a perfect renewing and reunion of affections gone before, whereas otherwise while dislikes continue, seu bene seu male facta premunt.44
End Note
In this advice it may evidently appear that I have proceeded with more zeal to his Majesty than caution or wariness for myself. For I am not ignorant what a hazard I run if things should fall out contrary to mine expectation. But love and faith cast no perils and I hold it a matter of that consequence both to King and people to have these misunderstandings cleared as well in truth as in opinion, as I would think my life of little value in respect of it and had rather hazard anything that may befall me than leave such office unattempted, wherein if I fail howsoever my discretion may be censured yet I am sure the honest purpose and sincerity of my heart can not be reproved.
18 June 1613
Henry Neville to Ralph Winwood
ID: letter_1613_winwood
IF my letter comes later than you expected, let me be somewhat excused by the Slowness and Irresolution of our Proceedings. When I wrote last I had strong Presumptions that this long depending Business, wherein you have likewise an interest, would be forthwith dispatched, and I yet see no cause much to doubt it; for I discover that the Delay hath grown upon two Suggestions secretly made to the King against me; the one that I had some hand in the Matter wherewith Sir Robert Mansell and Mr. Whitlock were charged, which is already cleared; the other, that I have held continual Intelligence with Overbury since his Imprisonment-: A matter so far from Truth, as I protest there never passed between-us so much as a message since his commitment. These Impediments being-removed, my Friends are confident that the King will no longer defer what he hath long resolved. But to apply this to the Point wherein you required my Advice; I think you may do well to write to his Majesty to that purpose which you mentioned in your letter; yet with this Liberty and Power to be left to your Friends here, that if our Business be dispatched before your letter comes, they may suppress it if they see cause, and turn their Suit another way; but if they see it linger then to deliver it, and join their mediation unto your Suite the sooner to effect it. We are here busy in Consultation about the Irish Business, willing enough to take a sharp course to check this over Boldness of theirs, but for want of Means, enforced as I think to resolve upon a milder: But I fear it will be the Via di Mezzo, which will neither uphold our Reputation nor give them Satisfaction-, and so leave us both without Awe or Love among them. those who are come over from them to the King have desired two Things of him; That he will be present himself when they are heard, and that they may be allowed council; both which he hath granted. The other great Business which filleth Men's Mouths now, is the Separation intended between my Lord of Essex and his Lady; a Matter no less desired by my Lord and his Friends, then by her and hers; and yet I doubt there is scarce Matter enough confessed or proved to induce a Nullity in the Marriage, which is that which they both affect, because they desire to marry again. It will not be long ere we see some issue in both. In the mean time I will take my leave, with Remembrance of my Love and service to you, and remain, & c.
16 July 1613
Henry Neville to Thomas Edmondes
ID: letter_116
My very good lord. your letter which. I received lately by your servant, quieted my mind very much, which. I confess was some thing troubled before. for I had received a little before, two several letters from a friend of mine in france, that gave me to understand, that you remained ill satisfied of me, about some conference that passed between du Vic and me; and not only about the matter, but about the manner likewise: so as not only my affection, but my discretion was brought in question. Before the receipt of this letter, I had determined to have made you a large relation of all that passed between vs, and to have desired you to have righted me in your conceit, against his unjust report it seems he made you of it. But perceiving by this letter, that it hath not wrought in you, any diminution of your former affection and good opinion of me, I will not handle so unpleasing an argument, but pass it over with. this only touch, that when he & you & I meet, I shall easily satisfy you he did me wrong. And for the present I will only say this, that as I have esteemed your love and worthiness at a very high rate, so I will be very careful to merit the one, and to yield all due respects to the other. But for the proposition made unto me by du Vic, I can make no other answer then I made then. I protest unto you, it is a matter I never sought, neither have I any assurance of it: And if I should say I have no desire of it, perhaps I should not be believed: But mine own heart knows it to be true. for I know the burden and weight of that place to well, to desire to pull such a load upon me. And I am not apt to overvalue my self. neither do I place my happiness in greatness or titles, but rather in a freedom and contentment of mind, which is sooner found in a private life. Therefore I pray you expect not from me any professions grounded upon that contingent. But if there be any power in me to merit of you in the fortune I am in, command it freely and dispose of me as of your servant & friend ready to do you service Henry Neville. from London the 16th. of July 1613
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ID: letter_117
Sir. I thank you much for your friendly remembrance of me. I find my self nothing deceived in the assurance I had of your good affection, which I will answer with true love and thankfulness as shall become an honest man. I beseech you continue as opportunity serves to do me the like office for this motion proceeding so frankly from my lords good favor unto me, can not but produce some good (I hope) in the end: especially seeing his Majesty, as my lord hath told me, is willing to do me good. whose gracious favor I will not think so scantily of, as to fear I have spent it, in those small matters I have already obtained of him: the one being only a warrant to my l. Treasurer and other, to reconvey unto me a piece of land whereof I had levied a fine unto them, to the intent that if the composition had proceeded which the commissioners made with me in the queen 's time for my liberty and pardon, they should have sold it or conveyed it to the queen 's for part of my fine, which not proceeding they were in right and equity to stand seased of it to my use. And yet for more caution they required that warrant for the reconveying of it. The other, being a grant of the reversion of land of mine own, let now but for 69li by the year, which was given to my father and the heirs males of his body which are now 14. A matter which I told my lord before I prayed his favor in it, that I did not value at 200li, nor would ever open my mouth for it, if I thought it would be any bar or impediment to my other suit for some recompense for my service. Since the obtaining of these, I confess I have been a suitor to his Majesty, for a licence to free the copiholders of a small manor or two of mine, which consist of copyholds of inheritance and the fine certain. wherein his Majesty. is not to give any thing of his own, nor that any man els is capable to receive. All which being rightly conceived, I hope his Majesty. will not deem it a full recompense for that charge I sustained in my service: which, though not done to him, yet was public, and done to the state. But Sir. I must not estimate mine own merits. I desire my lord should look upon them through his love and favor. which I confess hath been such already to me, as hath given him a full power and interest in me. I now desire that he will add so much unto the rest, as may give him that confidence and assurance of me, that I wish he would take. I desire to speed in my suit, because my poor decayed state hath need of it. But whatsoever my fortune be in it, I will not leave to love and honor him, to whom I am so particularly bound, and to whom all honest men do owe so public obligations. And thus fearing I have been to troublesome unto you, I will conclude abruptly, yet with repetition of my thanks, and vowing to continue ever, your true & faithful friend Hen. Neville
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